Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-16 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 15, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > ... > I noticed the following commented-out line at the beginning of the program: > > START: > ; RESET ;CLEAR THE WORLD > ; MOV #P7,PS ;LOCKOUT P1 BY RAISING CPU PRIORITY << > > Uncommenting th

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-15 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 11/9/16 6:18 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Nov 9, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> A quick update -- I ran the ZTCD diagnostics and they do fail, despite my >>> recollection (this is what I get for not taking notes at th

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-10 Thread Christian Corti
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: BTW, I noticed a couple of places in DTF.MAC where error checking code was commented out, e.g.: ;EHLT4:XX ;HALT WITH BLK#IN LIGHTS, CONTINUE ; MOV #257.,R0;TO FIND DATA WORD POSITION ; ADD TOG1,R0

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Christian Corti > Seems the original must have been the XXDP TC11 DECtape formatter > program by Robert J. Collins. I have no clue where I found the RT11 > version of this So that made me wonder if the V6 Unix version of tcf.s really was related to DTF.MAC. I checked out t

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-10 Thread Christian Corti
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: Having just looked at the original :-), it did have two messages: "ready drive 0 and type y" and "tcf: error" Seems the original must have been the XXDP TC11 DECtape formatter program by Robert J. Collins. I have no clue where I found the RT11 versi

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/9/16 6:18 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Nov 9, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: ... A quick update -- I ran the ZTCD diagnostics and they do fail, despite my recollection (this is what I get for not taking notes at the end of yesterday, and yesterday seems so far away now...). The first

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > ... > A quick update -- I ran the ZTCD diagnostics and they do fail, despite my > recollection (this is what I get for not taking notes at the end of > yesterday, and yesterday seems so far away now...). The first test (a > forward WALL, foll

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Paul Koning > wrote: > >> >> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >> > >> > ... >> > >> > Now that I've gotten the full suite of diagnostics to run, the problem >> > seems to be that the TC11 is

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/9/16 1:50 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > Are > there two such stations on the drive for reading? Nope. DECtape only has one set of heads, so it writes blind.

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread jim stephens
On 11/9/2016 1:43 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: t's clear from running the diagnostics (ZTCC, not ZTCD, sorry for the important typo) that a Read in a reverse direction fails (but writes seem to be OK in either direction -- the tests that do forward reads, regardless of the write direction of the data

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Nov 9, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > > ... > > > > Now that I've gotten the full suite of diagnostics to run, the problem > > seems to be that the TC11 isn't reading properly in reverse -- Tests > > 15,16,21,22,26,27 and 34

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > ... > > Now that I've gotten the full suite of diagnostics to run, the problem > seems to be that the TC11 isn't reading properly in reverse -- Tests > 15,16,21,22,26,27 and 34 of ZTCD fail, all others pass (modulo a marginal > block on the t

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch >> The UNIX V6 distro includes a standalone program, tcf.s, to format >> DECtapes. > I could probably get a V6 distribution running if I need to, but if you > have the means to do so easily, that would be handy so I can at least > have another tool to t

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Christian Corti < c...@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Nov 2016, Josh Dersch wrote: > >> with the TC11 system," and I haven't managed to find it. I *have* found >> this: >> http://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/inf.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdp11/dtf.mac >> >

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 3:59 AM, Christian Corti > wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2016, Josh Dersch wrote: >> with the TC11 system," and I haven't managed to find it. I *have* found >> this: >> http://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/inf.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdp11/dtf.mac > > ... which is simply a mirror of ou

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-09 Thread Christian Corti
On Tue, 8 Nov 2016, Josh Dersch wrote: with the TC11 system," and I haven't managed to find it. I *have* found this: http://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/inf.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdp11/dtf.mac ... which is simply a mirror of our FTP server at ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/cm/... I enhan

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/8/16 1:43 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Josh Dersch > If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/44, I see the same behavior. > If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/20, then I get the printout > described in the documentation and listings. ... I haven't yet dug i

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch > If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/44, I see the same behavior. > If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/20, then I get the printout > described in the documentation and listings. ... I haven't yet dug in > to see what accounts for the difference

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Dersch
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Nov 8, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > > Hi all -- > > > > ... > > 2) I'm looking for means to format DECtapes on the TC11. I have a few > > marginal tapes and I'd like to see if reformatting them brings them back > to > >

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > Hi all -- > > ... > 2) I'm looking for means to format DECtapes on the TC11. I have a few > marginal tapes and I'd like to see if reformatting them brings them back to > life. The maintenance manual only indicates "a special program supplie

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/8/16 12:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > I've assembled and run on RT-11 and it goes through the motions of > writing out the timing and mark tracks, but when it goes through the second > pass to write out the block numbers it fails immediately Did you set the switch on the controller front pan

General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Dersch
Hi all -- I'm working on getting a TC11 + TU56 running at the LCM+L. We plan to use it as a tool for various archival and restoration efforts. After restoring the power supplies, I have it lashed up to a PDP-11/44 -- I know this is anachronistic, but it's been a workhorse machine with ethernet a