Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rod Smallwood > I can tell you what they were called internally at DEC. > ... > They were called Toggles or Toggle switches and their use was called > 'Toggling' hence 'To toggle in the bootstrap' Maybe because on the older machines (e.g. PDP-1) they really were toggle

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Rod Smallwood
I can tell you what they were called internally at DEC. Mainly due to the fact I was there at the time. They were called Toggles or Toggle switches and their use was called 'Toggling' hence 'To toggle in the bootstrap' Any DEC field engineer of that time knew by heart the sequence of octal numbe

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Kyle Owen: Monday, June 15, 2015 6:17 AM PS: If a way is developed to make the plastic levers, the 11/20 uses the exact same part, just in PDP-11 colours. They've been 3D printed with the sintered nylon process, dyed and polished with good results thanks to the efforts of Vince Slyngstad.

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Kyle Owen
On Jun 15, 2015 9:11 AM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote: > > I'm not sure what the official DEC name is for the plastic lever which > actuates the slide switch - anyone know? I hear them referred to as handles. > > PS: If a way is developed to make the plastic levers, the 11/20 uses the > exact same part,

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Pontus Pihlgren >> Seeing the one with the one with the missing toggle switches reminds >> me that I have an enquiry out re getting some made. > I believe many would appreciate that. We probably ought to standardize our terminology to be slightly less confusing. As we've

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Rod Smallwood
Thats OK Its always worth asking. One of the reasons for my efforts to make PDP parts is to produce spares using modern components to help replica builders and restorers. In addition to the toggle switches I am trying to see if its possible to reproduce the bezel in a non-metal So

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 08:54:08AM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > Seeing the one with the one with the missing toggle switches reminds > me that I have an enquiry out re getting some made. I believe many would appreciate that. I'm lucky though and have spares enough for my machine. > I dont

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hello Pontus. Thank you for the information. Your two machines (colour sat apart) do fall into my A and B Types quite well Seeing the one with the one with the missing toggle switches reminds me that I have an enquiry out re getting some made. I dont know if I have asked yo

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi Rod I'm sorry I haven't replied sooner, you are not forgotten. It is just that my second 8/e was much harder to reach than I had hoped for. (I'm shipping out a set of computers that are in the way). DOH! I just recalled.. I have pictures online, these are my machines: Type A: http://www.pdp

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-11 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Pontus Please define which two the colours differ between. Is the current version with the vertical switch position correct? If that is the case then the other one with angled switch position lines and dividers between groups of lamps must differ. The two colours

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-11 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
The color is quite different between the two. I can take comparative photos, but I suppose it will be quite meaningless as a guide. /P On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 06:47:25AM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Asof now I know of two variations > > 1,Selector switch positions 1 and 6 lines can be

Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-10 Thread Rod Smallwood
Asof now I know of two variations 1,Selector switch positions 1 and 6 lines can be vertical or at an angle to the vertical 2,Vertical divider between groups of three lamps Anybody seen an 8/e panel with anything else? Rod