Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-31 Thread Erik Klein
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > Is it too late to also set up an E-waste recycling even next to VCF? > > > Weird Stuff Warehouse is practically right around the corner... .-) -- - Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com - My personal collection www.vcfed.org - The Vintag

Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Curious Marc wrote: I cannot download any drivers from there. Links download link opens a Panasonic driver page, and if you navigate back to the HP QuietJet you get the same links again, nice circuitous path. The Win3.1 driver link was good though. Supposedly drivers for

Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-27 Thread Curious Marc
ctalk@classiccmp.org" Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 3:25 PM To: "cctalk@classiccmp.org" Subject: RE: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: I have a WIDE CARRIAGE QuietJet Plus,

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Mouse wrote: I just noticed this could be taken as being sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic in the least. Humour - even humor - is a very significant thing to me; it makes you people feel human, for lack of a better word, makes me feel this is a community of people instead o

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Cisin
Come visit with a vehicle, and we'll check what it takes to make your springs sag. On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Adrian Stoness wrote: mean the leafs upside down :P That takes quite a bit. Many cars now, instead of leaf springs have coil springs, often in the form of MacPherson struts and Chapman str

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread pdaguytom .
Yep, recognized it. Just shows to go you, very few new stories out there. It's all about character development and CGI. Tom On Wednesday, July 27, 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, pdaguytom . wrote: > >> +1 >> Fred's dissertation on time for MSDOS code in CP/M was a fantastic gig

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, pdaguytom . wrote: +1 Fred's dissertation on time for MSDOS code in CP/M was a fantastic giggle. If you mean the bit about the Galactic Copyright laws, that was quoted (without attribution) from "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. A very wise man (Dave, editor of Micro-C

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, ben wrote: PDP 8 or a uNova? no, sorry just excessive PC stuff. http://www.xenosoft.com/FPUIB is about 3 years out of date, but will give you an idea of what kind of stuff. Plus, I'm now ready to get rid of some books that I previously wanted to hang on to.

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread ben
On 7/27/2016 4:34 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Bunches of money if you want it to be packed well. ... NO color nor colour! ... OB_Standard_Disclaimer: Guaranteed not to work. In the event of our quality control being shoddy, if it does turn out to be working, you may bring it back (at your expense

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread pdaguytom .
+1 Fred's dissertation on time for MSDOS code in CP/M was a fantastic giggle. Thanks, Tom On Wednesday, July 27, 2016, Mouse wrote: > > Bunches of money if you want it to be packed well. > ... > > NO color nor colour! > ... > > OB_Standard_Disclaimer: Guaranteed not to work. In the event of

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread Adrian Stoness
mean the leafs upside down :P On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > Bunches of money if you want it to be packed well. >>> >> ... >> >>> NO color nor colour! >>> >> ... >> >>> OB_Standard_Disclaimer: Guaranteed not to work. In the event of our >>> quality control being shoddy, i

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Cisin
Bunches of money if you want it to be packed well. ... NO color nor colour! ... OB_Standard_Disclaimer: Guaranteed not to work. In the event of our quality control being shoddy, if it does turn out to be working, you may bring it back (at your expense) for a refund of half your purchase pric

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread Mouse
>> Bunches of money if you want it to be packed well. >> [...] > See, now, this sort of thing is a big part of why I like this list. I just noticed this could be taken as being sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic in the least. Humour - even humor - is a very significant thing to me; it makes you

RE: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: I have a WIDE CARRIAGE QuietJet Plus, with serial/parallel, to get rid of. FREE if you come get it. (Near Berkeley, in El Cerrito) Bunches of money if you want it to be packed well. . . . Supposedly drivers for Windoze through 10! and Mac: http://fbdri

Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-27 Thread Mouse
> Bunches of money if you want it to be packed well. ... > NO color nor colour! ... > OB_Standard_Disclaimer: Guaranteed not to work. In the event of our > quality control being shoddy, if it does turn out to be working, you > may bring it back (at your expense) for a refund of half your > purcha

RE: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Cisin
There were also variant models with "Centronics" interface. narrow and wide carriage. College dumpstered at least a hundred of them. Almost all working fine at the time. At one point, they fired a tenured faculty member for dumpster diving. I didn't get caught. I have a WIDE CARRIAGE QuietJet

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-18 Thread COURYHOUSE
In a message dated 7/17/2016 9:45:20 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk writes: > The HPIL thinkjet version was also used with the hp portable and hp > portable pluslaptops. > we have some of them in the SMECC here... butback when I was CEO > Com

RE: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread tony duell
> The HPIL thinkjet version was also used with the hp portable and hp > portable pluslaptops. > we have some of them in the SMECC here... butback when I was CEO > Computer Exchange inc we sold lost of these.. it was a small laptop > with applications in ROM but also had a

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Curious Marc
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:03 PM, tony duell wrote: > > The ink is also corrosive. It can corrode the metal faceplate > on the cartridge, then drip onto the flexible PCB that connects > the cartridge to the rest of the printer and corrode that too. > If you ever have a Thinkjet with missing dots,

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/17/16 10:21 AM, tony duell wrote: > > The 9154B uses an HP drive known as > a 'Nighthawk' which does not have a normal interface. sorry, I misread the post as asking about drives inside a 360

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread James Attfield
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:34:22 -0400 > From: devin davison > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" > Subject: Found some stuff at the scrapyard > Message-ID: >7+jltp76khecfdu31ywpowxvmsdqsv...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread devin davison
Well, i will have to see if i can find any matching wire wrap cards to plug into the backpane and i can perhaps make something of it. I did not pay much for it, its no big liss if it is useless.

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread COURYHOUSE
l Discussion: On-Topic Posts" Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:19 AM Subject: Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard You got yourself the first consumer inkjet printer ever, from 1984: https://youtu.be/UiHNymmxKWs Original "A" version with HP-IB interface, useless for regu

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Mike Stein
- From: "Curious Marc" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:19 AM Subject: Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard You got yourself the first consumer inkjet printer ever, from 1984: https://youtu.be/UiHNymmxKWs Original "A" version w

RE: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread tony duell
> > As far as the disk drive goes, if it is a proprietary hard drive in there, > > that is a bummer. > > They are conventional drives. The 360 or 380 are nice machines that will also > run HP/UX As far as I am aware the HP9153B is the same as an HP9154B with a floppy drive fitted. The 9154B us

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/17/2016 10:17 AM, tony duell wrote: > Ethylene glycol is, of course, commonly found in car anti-freeze. > The printer ink is not rediculously toxic, but some animals find it > tastes sweet, they drink all they can find and it leads to kindney > failure. A couple of decades ago, there was a

RE: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread tony duell
> Very good information to know about the printer, thanks. I am assuming > that the new cartridges I get from staples should not have the toxic ink? > Will it still be corrosive? My guess is that the ink formulation has not changed. I think other things (maybe element power, timing, etc) would h

RE: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Fred Cisin
Original "A" version with HP-IB interface, useless for regular PCs of course. Complete with the "SomethingJet" marketing On Sun, 17 Jul 2016, tony duell wrote: It's mildly easier to use with a normal PC than the -B model (HPIL, There were also variant models with "Centronics" interface. Those

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Al Kossow
which also ran on PCs on the 82324B Measurement Coprocessor http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=909 On 7/17/16 9:53 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > It's "Rocky Mountain BASIC" V6.2,

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Al Kossow
It's "Rocky Mountain BASIC" V6.2, which you used to be able to get as floppy images from the Australian HP Museum. I think the standalone Pascal system still ran on these as well. On 7/17/16 9:47 AM, devin davison wrote: > The basic os that came installed on it looks pretty interesting too, > a

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread devin davison
Yeah i saw that it was capable or running HP/UX and wanted to take a look at that. Sadly it did not come with a NIC, that would have been pretty useful for getting data into and out of the machine over the network, instead ill be limited to floppys. The basic os that came installed on it looks pre

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Al Kossow
Memory sticks don't appear to be normal, though. I never bothered to dig into what's different about them, since they were available cheaply on eBay when i was working on the data recovery project. On 7/17/16 9:43 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 7/17/16 9:21 AM, devin davison wrote: > >> As far

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/17/16 9:21 AM, devin davison wrote: > As far as the disk drive goes, if it is a proprietary hard drive in there, > that is a bummer. They are conventional drives. The 360 or 380 are nice machines that will also run HP/UX and come in handy for recovery of HPIB disk drives. I used a 380 to

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread devin davison
Very good information to know about the printer, thanks. I am assuming that the new cartridges I get from staples should not have the toxic ink? Will it still be corrosive? There was a second printer over there, missing the plastic cover and scratched up. I think i will pick it up too for parts.

RE: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread tony duell
> Original "A" version with HP-IB interface, useless for regular > PCs of course. Complete with the "SomethingJet" marketing It's mildly easier to use with a normal PC than the -B model (HPIL, battery powered). Interestingly the -A version has an HPIB-HPIL interface feeding HPIL to the main board

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Curious Marc
You got yourself the first consumer inkjet printer ever, from 1984: https://youtu.be/UiHNymmxKWs Original "A" version with HP-IB interface, useless for regular PCs of course. Complete with the "SomethingJet" marketing name that has been with us since then. The key innovation of that printer was t

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread devin davison
well come to think of it, i was at a HAM convention and i bought a bunch of wire wrap boards that were supposedly from CDC system. wire wrap boards with a card edge connector. I will have to see if they fit together. On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > On 2016-Jul-16, at 8:3

Re: Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Jul-16, at 8:34 PM, devin davison wrote: > as well as what im > assuming is a s100 backplane. > https://www.slashflash.info/~devin/images/scrapyard_lot/IMG_0148.JPG > https://www.slashflash.info/~devin/images/scrapyard_lot/IMG_0149.JPG Looks earlier than S100. I don't think I've ever s

Found some stuff at the scrapyard

2016-07-17 Thread devin davison
Actually found a pretty nice hp machine with a bunch of peripherals. Thankfully it came with the keyboard. Also a external hard drive and floppy, as well as a tiny printer. HP 362 "controller" Hp thinkjet 2225A printer Hp 9153B - HD and floppy Also a IBM wheelwriter 3 with the parallel interface,