Forking this thread as we are now way off the original and very cogent topic,
which I would like to see continued. (Very valid to ask about good emulations
of early GUI systems like Apollo, LispMs, PERQ, Xerox D* etc)
Peter’s mentions of TRIPOS (which was used on a Sage IV for Amiga Lorraine
br
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:29:14PM -0500, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:
> The Amiga 1000 with AmigaDos and Workbench was released in late 1985.
> AmigaDos is based on Unix and Workbench is based on X-windows.
Er, no.
The Amiga's operating system is a pre-emptive multitasking microkernel which
us
On Sep 21, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Richard Pope wrote:
>
>The Amiga 1000 with AmigaDos and Workbench was released in late 1985.
> AmigaDos is based on Unix and Workbench is based on X-windows.
Neither of these claims is correct.
— Chris
Hello all,
The Amiga 1000 with AmigaDos and Workbench was released in late
1985. AmigaDos is based on Unix and Workbench is based on X-windows.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!
On 9/21/2020 11:24 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
wrote:
On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Almost looks like a SunView ancestor.
I’m pretty sure SunWindows/SunView predates MGR by 2-3 years.
— Chris
> On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>>> MGR was not the Unix PC's native GUI environment; I'm not sure what that
>>> was named. MGR was an open source environment that could be installed on
>>> the Unix PC.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManaGeR
>
> Alm
On 9/21/20 6:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
MGR was not the Unix PC's native GUI environment; I'm not sure what that
was named. MGR was an open source environment that could be installed on
the Unix PC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManaGeR
Almost looks like a SunView ancestor.
He
> > MGR was not the Unix PC's native GUI environment; I'm not sure what that
> > was named. MGR was an open source environment that could be installed on
> > the Unix PC.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManaGeR
Almost looks like a SunView ancestor.
--
per
On 9/21/20 4:11 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 3:24 PM Mike Begley via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
There's also the windowing system used on the AT&T 3B1 (AKA Unix PC, AK
PC7300), which I think was called MGR. It may have also been ported to
other systems a
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 3:24 PM Mike Begley via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> There's also the windowing system used on the AT&T 3B1 (AKA Unix PC, AK
> PC7300), which I think was called MGR. It may have also been ported to
> other systems as well. When I had one of these machines it w
Well, CD images are available on the Web for both IRIX 5.3 and 6.5.
Various manuals, including installation guides seem to be available at
http://irix7.com/techpubs.html
As long as you have a CD drive (which you would have needed to install
Linux), you should be good to go, though certain bits and
I have an SGI Indy that some idiot (tm) (okay, it was me) put Linux on.
Anyone have any way to undo my mistake? (: I'd like to get the thing
running properly again, if it even still powers up. I imagine the HD is
probably knackered by now anyway.
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 20:30, Ray Jewhurst via c
Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > it was AI rather than MC. As I'm sure you know, AI had the Rubin
> > 10-11 interface
>
> Really? (I expect you're correct, mind.) I just remember one day MC
> wasn't running as normal, and I was told it was because CHEOPS was in
> some tournament, and MC had been taken offl
On Sep 17, 2020, at 19:18, Michael Kerpan wrote:
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
> how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
> know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star, and
> Lisa out there, but
t sleeping dogs lie...
-mike
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Subject: Exploring early GUIs
Something in another recent thread about LISP machines go
> From: Lars Brinkhoff
> it was AI rather than MC. As I'm sure you know, AI had the Rubin 10-11
> interface
Really? (I expect you're correct, mind.) I just remember one day MC wasn't
running as normal, and I was told it was because CHEOPS was in some
tournament, and MC had been taken
Noel Chiappa wrote:
> I'm not sure CONS ever ran as a stand-alone system; I suspect (but
> don't recall for sure; RG, TK or Moon or someone could confirm one way
> or the other) that it ran as a loosely-coupled co-processor to MC, the
> way the Chess Machine did.
I believe you are entirely correct
> From: Lars Brinkhoff
> There are emulators for the CADR Lisp machine ... There's no emulators
> for the CONS, but I claim it would be interesting to attempt one.
I'm not sure CONS ever ran as a stand-alone system; I suspect (but don't
recall for sure; RG, TK or Moon or someone could
with Gulam a "unix like" shell with a built in
Micro Emacs.
Dave
G4UGM
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> Subject: Re: Exploring early GUIs
> On Sep 18, 2020, at 3:48 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> I re mn ember GEm5 as a guide ran under dos . .
> Ed#
> On Friday, September 18, 2020 Paul Koning via cctalk cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>
>>
Hello all,
There are emulations of the Amiga out there.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!
On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
wrote:
Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at al
I re mn ember GEm5 as a guide ran under dos . .
Ed#
On Friday, September 18, 2020 Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
> how many early graphical system
Also available on MAME is HP VUE on the 9000/360 and 370 and not a super
early GUI but quite breathtaking is Irix on the SGI Indy. Directions to set
up both are all over the web.
Ray
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 2:23 PM jacob--- via cctalk
wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Michael Kerpan via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Michael Kerpan via cctalk wrote:
Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star, and
Lisa out there, but
Michael Kerpan wrote:
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me
> wondering: how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or
> emulated at all)? I know that there are more or less functional
> emulations of Alto, Star, and Lisa out there, but what about the
> various LI
> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
> how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
> know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star,
would early gui include hmi systems
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 9:19 PM Michael Kerpan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
> how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
> know that there a
Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star, and
Lisa out there, but what about the various LISP machines or the early
worksta
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