Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-29 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
On Sun, 2020-03-29 at 10:21 -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, dwight via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > There are a few reasons most don't like Forth: > > > > 1. no type checking ( suppose to save dumb programmers ) > > 2. Often, no fl

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-29 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:55:34PM +, dwight via cctalk wrote: > It is clearly not just a backwards LISP. LISP is another language that I shied away from in the past, but finally started exploring a while back. > It is not Python either. There's another point in its favor. I've tried to de

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > There are a few reasons most don't like Forth: > > 1. no type checking ( suppose to save dumb programmers ) > 2. Often, no floating point. ( Math has to be well thought out but when > done right in integer math it has few bugs

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-28 Thread ben via cctalk
On 3/28/2020 7:06 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: RPN is just there to simplify the interpreter and compiler. It takes some getting used to. Many claim that infixed is more natural but it is clumsy. One has to come up with a bunch of rules to make work. A + B * C multiply B and C an then add A.

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-28 Thread dwight via cctalk
that level. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Kevin Monceaux via cctalk Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:27 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:55:34PM +, dwight via cctalk wrote: > There are a few reason

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-28 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:55:34PM +, dwight via cctalk wrote: > There are a few reasons most don't like Forth: I've looked at a few example Forth programs in the past. I usually cringed and quickly moved on. I should have done a little more research back then. This thread inspired me to ta

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-28 Thread dwight via cctalk
arly not just a backwards LISP. It is not Python either. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Bill Gunshannon via cctalk Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 6:39 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS On 3/27/20 8:48

FORTH [was: Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS]

2020-03-28 Thread Guy N. via cctalk
On Fri, 2020-03-27 at 20:42 -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 3/27/20 8:25 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > > If you want to try something entirely different, dig up the FORTH > runtime system that's part of the V10.1 "unsupported" kit. It's a > neat language. Still in use, in fact. > >

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/27/20 8:48 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 3/27/20 8:25 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS? And while I am at

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > On 3/27/20 8:25 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS? >>> >>> And while I am at it, was th

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-27 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/27/20 8:25 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS? And while I am at it, was there ever RPG for RSTS? I am so bored I have decided to really load up a SIMH system and just li

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS? > > And while I am at it, was there ever RPG for RSTS? > > I am so bored I have decided to really load up a SIMH system > and just live in the past for a wh

DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-27 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS? And while I am at it, was there ever RPG for RSTS? I am so bored I have decided to really load up a SIMH system and just live in the past for a while. I have Fortran-IV, Fortran-77, COBOL-81 and C installed now as well as BASIC and