Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-10 Thread COURYHOUSE
scuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Blue tape retainers On 06/09/2015 08:21 PM, ben wrote: > Also would not a fall like that damage the tape reel? When baking tapes with the Wright Line seals, I've learned to remove the seals. If you leave them on

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 22:57 , Chuck Guzis wrote: > > The 3M ones that I've seen are hard white plastic (not PVC or whatever Wright > Line used) with a keyhole-sort of affair that allows the circle to expand. Interesting. I don't think I've encountered that style before, or if I did, that memor

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
I finally succeeded in putting a name to where I've seen that clingy vinyl material before--in a children's toy: Google: "Colorforms" --Chuck

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/09/2015 10:40 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: Hmm, the NOS 3M 777 tapes that I got off eBay have "that one" seals. Did 3M later switch to Wright Line seals? Off to google pictures of random mag taps for edutainment purposes... Boy, do I know how to have fun! The 3M ones that I've seen are hard

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 22:20 , Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 06/09/2015 09:57 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > >> Please forgive my ignorance, but which variety are the Wright Line >> seals? I think I've encountered three styles of magtape widgets: The >> "common" white plastic with a black buckle and squa

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/09/2015 09:57 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: Please forgive my ignorance, but which variety are the Wright Line seals? I think I've encountered three styles of magtape widgets: The "common" white plastic with a black buckle and squarish hook, which have been on the vast majority of tapes I've ev

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread couryhouse
d Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Blue tape retainers On 06/09/2015 08:21 PM, ben wrote: > Also would not a fall like that damage the tape reel? When baking tapes with the Wright Line seals, I've learned to remove the seals.  If you leave them on, the tapes at 58C, will often just f

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 21:46 , Chuck Guzis wrote: > > When baking tapes with the Wright Line seals Please forgive my ignorance, but which variety are the Wright Line seals? I think I've encountered three styles of magtape widgets: The "common" white plastic with a black buckle and squarish hook

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/09/2015 08:21 PM, ben wrote: Also would not a fall like that damage the tape reel? When baking tapes with the Wright Line seals, I've learned to remove the seals. If you leave them on, the tapes at 58C, will often just fall right out the seal--the coefficient of expansion is much larg

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread COURYHOUSE
wonders how long it takes the seal to decay? when in the biz had tapes on the rack for 13 years and no falling . Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/9/2015 7:42:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, bfranc...@jetnet.ab.ca writes: On 6/9/2015 8:15 PM,

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread ben
On 6/9/2015 8:55 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: It's one of those tape collar-seals breaking spontaneously, at which point the hung reel falls to the floor and takes off across the room, generally unwinding the tape as it goes. If it is generally UNwinding the tape as it goes, the reason is exactly the

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Fred Cisin
It's one of those tape collar-seals breaking spontaneously, at which point the hung reel falls to the floor and takes off across the room, generally unwinding the tape as it goes. If it is generally UNwinding the tape as it goes, the reason is exactly the same as why buttered toast always falls

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread ben
On 6/9/2015 8:15 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: On 2015-Jun-09, at 3:01 PM, jwsmobile wrote: I find that the Writghtline seals work the best if the tapes were not and are not hung with them. Eventually the white material will fail, or the black lock will break, but they are by far the longest lastin

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Jun-09, at 3:01 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > I find that the Writghtline seals work the best if the tapes were not and > are not hung with them. Eventually the white material will fail, or the > black lock will break, but they are by far the longest lasting other than > just a clear box con

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread COURYHOUSE
I have had them come inthem for video tape too and they were seem to be white vinyl in this case Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/9/2015 5:04:47 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, bfranc...@jetnet.ab.ca writes: On 6/9/2015 5:38 PM, Pete Turnb

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread ben
On 6/9/2015 5:38 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote: On 09/06/2015 22:32, Chuck Guzis wrote: One thing that I recall is that many tape manufacturers used a blue, sort of "sticky silicon" tape to hold ends in place. This stuff never seems to degrade. Since I used to buy them, I can say with some authorit

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 09/06/2015 22:32, Chuck Guzis wrote: One thing that I recall is that many tape manufacturers used a blue, sort of "sticky silicon" tape to hold ends in place. This stuff never seems to degrade. Since I used to buy them, I can say with some authority that (1) they're vinyl tape, as others h

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Mike Loewen wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: > >> Was the magic tape silicone, or was it maybe something like vinyl, like the >> clear vinyl (?) film used for no-adhesive window decals? > > I have a couple of those strips on some tapes - feel

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/9/2015 3:20 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: I think the guess of being vinyl is probably bang on. Latex would have long since degraded. I asked a group who collect Political Memorabilia and make temporary signs, and they suggested the term that I think hits the material. The temporary signs are

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 15:33 , Chuck Guzis wrote: > > Could this be the right stuff? > > http://www.amazon.com/Grafix-9-Inch-12-Inch-9-Pack-Assorted/dp/B00114OVFE/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt > > It seems to me that I've seen it in the form of letters to be stuck to > windows. That looks really promising.

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
Could this be the right stuff? http://www.amazon.com/Grafix-9-Inch-12-Inch-9-Pack-Assorted/dp/B00114OVFE/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt It seems to me that I've seen it in the form of letters to be stuck to windows. --Chuck

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 15:20 , Chuck Guzis wrote: > I remember when the self-threading vacuum column drives were introduced. The > usual procedure was the clip off the last inch or two of the leader before > using them. Of course, if you carried the same tape between auto- and > manual-threadi

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/09/2015 03:01 PM, jwsmobile wrote: The blue, white, or yellow material felt like and worked like latex. It may have had some treatment to make it have the tactile adhesion you felt, but it left zero residue on the tape despite the adhesion to the mylar backing on the tape. I think the g

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Eric Smith
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > Was the magic tape silicone, or was it maybe something like vinyl, like the > clear vinyl (?) film used for no-adhesive window decals? I think the ones I used were vinyl. A little thicker than the parking permits I had a few years ago, but a

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/9/2015 2:54 PM, Dennis Boone wrote: > foam blocks ... hated the things we just tucked one end of the tape > under the tape ring and snapped it shut seems things stayed in place > nicely and no foam outgassing under the seal of the tape ring. Those of us with autoload drives despised

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Mike Loewen
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: Was the magic tape silicone, or was it maybe something like vinyl, like the clear vinyl (?) film used for no-adhesive window decals? I have a couple of those strips on some tapes - feels like vinyl. Mike Loewen mloe...@

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
Was the magic tape silicone, or was it maybe something like vinyl, like the clear vinyl (?) film used for no-adhesive window decals? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread COURYHOUSE
never owned an auto load drive nor do I want to! always afraid of anything autoloadthings getting eaten! Ed# In a message dated 6/9/2015 2:54:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, d...@msu.edu writes: > foam blocks ... hated the things we just tucked one end of the tape > unde

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Dennis Boone
> Obviously for the auto-loading drives, either would be bad news. But > it's for the last reason that I'm interested in the blue (well, > sometimes white) tape. Or yellow. I'd like a source of these too. Foam blocks were ok back then, but it seems like it's hard to guess which type will not

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Dennis Boone
> foam blocks ... hated the things we just tucked one end of the tape > under the tape ring and snapped it shut seems things stayed in place > nicely and no foam outgassing under the seal of the tape ring. Those of us with autoload drives despised you. :) Well, ok, the 3420 drives probably did

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Dennis Boone
> I am curious: NOS tapes that I bought in the last year or so came > with the foam blocks, but I don't recall ever encountering either a > foam block or the magic plastic tape "back in the day" on tapes from > the rack that I handled as a backup operator. I presume that if they > came with bl

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/09/2015 02:38 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: I am curious: NOS tapes that I bought in the last year or so came with the foam blocks, but I don't recall ever encountering either a foam block or the magic plastic tape "back in the day" on tapes from the rack that I handled as a backup operator. I

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread COURYHOUSE
foam blocks ... hated the things we just tucked one end of the tape under the tape ring and snapped it shut seems things stayed in place nicely and no foam outgassing under the seal of the tape ring. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/9/2015 2:38

Re: Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 14:32 , Chuck Guzis wrote: > > I'm getting a little tired of replacing old dried-out foam blocks to hold > down the ends of 1/2" tapes. Worse, some of the ones I've fished out have > utterly crumbled over the years, leaving bits of themselves inside the reel. I am curiou

Blue tape retainers

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis
I'm getting a little tired of replacing old dried-out foam blocks to hold down the ends of 1/2" tapes. Worse, some of the ones I've fished out have utterly crumbled over the years, leaving bits of themselves inside the reel. One thing that I recall is that many tape manufacturers used a blue,