Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-11-04 Thread Mike Douglas via cctalk
Here’s a demo video of a Pertec 5.25” drive that has dual index sensors so you can simply flip a standard disk over and use both sides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UCcONLTsuQ&t=32s Mike

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-11-02 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Nov 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Just as a follow up, I grabbed one of the Memorex "flippies" out of my files: https://i.imgur.com/3VnrazS.jpg That's really neat. Thanks for the photo! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. htt

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-11-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Just as a follow up, I grabbed one of the Memorex "flippies" out of my files: https://i.imgur.com/3VnrazS.jpg --Chuck

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-11-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/1/21 8:24 AM, mike wrote: > I use a few Shugart 8" single sided drives on my cp/m 2.2 machine. How do > you make 'flippies'? > > Mike Zahorik Simple enough--Get yourself a hand punch like this one: https://www.swingline.com/c/punches/?rslt=34 Using an old floppy jacket (sans cookie), plac

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-11-01 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
le sided drives on my cp/m 2.2 machine. How do you make 'flippies'? Mike Zahorik (414) 254-6768 -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: Monday, November 01, 2021 12:34 AM To: Ali via cctalk Subject: Re: 8"

RE: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-11-01 Thread mike via cctalk
Ali via cctalk Subject: Re: 8" disk drive questions... On 10/31/21 10:07 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: > "Computers that used the floppy index hole also required two additional > openings in the floppy case to allow the drive to access when the disk was > upside down. However, it w

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/31/21 10:07 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: > "Computers that used the floppy index hole also required two additional > openings in the floppy case to allow the drive to access when the disk was > upside down. However, it was a difficult and risky operation for the > integrity of the support. To f

RE: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Ali via cctalk
> > I guess this is not the deluxe model? > > > https://www.computerhistory.it/images/stories/storia/supporti/8inch_pun > cher. > > jpg > > Well, that one is not the "Berkeley Microcomputer Flip-Jig" > Mine was just a simple plexi pocket with holes for MARKING the disk. > Then, the holes were punc

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/31/21 3:40 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote: >> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> I've taped over the SS hole, but still have issues with the Applesauce >> - I suspect I damaged it with all my messing around.  I'll try hooking >> it back up to a PC and see how it does with the

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021, geneb via cctalk wrote: I've got the maintenance guide, so I'll look to see what is there when I get a chance, thanks. I didn't see anything in the manual about how to handle the two index sensors, or to deactivate one of them. In normal use, it should be transparent to

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021, geneb via cctalk wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I use an 842 here quite frequently, and as far as memory serves, it's side-hole-blind. That is, a disk with a single-sided aperture only can still be processed as a double-sided disk. However, as

RE: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
One of my first products to market, the "Berkeley Microcomputer FlipJig", was a plexiglass "pocket" with holes, for marking diskettes for punching the extra holes. The "deluxe" model had a stub spindle on the outside and a ring, for putting on hub reinforcers. On Sun, 31 Oct 2021, Ali wrote:

RE: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Ali via cctalk
> One of my first products to market, the "Berkeley Microcomputer > FlipJig", > was a plexiglass "pocket" with holes, for marking diskettes for > punching > the extra holes. > The "deluxe" model had a stub spindle on the outside and a ring, for > putting on hub reinforcers. > I guess this is no

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I use an 842 here quite frequently, and as far as memory serves, it's side-hole-blind. That is, a disk with a single-sided aperture only can still be processed as a double-sided disk. However, as Fred says, best to check the jumpers. I belie

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/31/21 12:14 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Put a piece of opaque tape over one of the holes. > Make sure that it is solidly attached. > I used to use write protect tabs. > But aged write protect tabs rarely still stick well. > And, it is a hassle to dig out ones that have fallen off insid

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Gene, are you certain that these aren't "flippy disks" (two index apertures)? And, if you punch a THIRD hole, then the disk could be used DS, OR Flippy! One of my first products to market, the "Berkeley Microcomputer FlipJig", was a plexigla

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Put a piece of opaque tape over one of the holes. Make sure that it is solidly attached. I used to use write protect tabs. But aged write protect tabs rarely still stick well. And, it is a hassle to dig out ones that have fallen off inside the drive. I ran most of my 8" drives without cases, so i

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/31/21 9:57 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: I'm working with the developer of the Applesauce disk imaging tool in order to iron out some issues with 8" disk support. I'm using a Qumetrak 842 disk drive that's got support for both double and

Re: 8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/31/21 9:57 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > > I'm working with the developer of the Applesauce disk imaging tool in > order to iron out some issues with 8" disk support. > > I'm using a Qumetrak 842 disk drive that's got support for both double > and single-sided media.  This means that it's e

8" disk drive questions...

2021-10-31 Thread geneb via cctalk
I'm working with the developer of the Applesauce disk imaging tool in order to iron out some issues with 8" disk support. I'm using a Qumetrak 842 disk drive that's got support for both double and single-sided media. This means that it's equipped with two index hole sensors, slightly offse