[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Paul Koning wrote: > Suppose you had schematics of, say, a KA-10. You could turn those > gates into VHDL or Verilog, and that should deliver an exact replica > of the original machine, bug for bug compatible. That assumes the > timing quirks are manageable The mapping from asynchronous pulses, d

[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
CAREY SCHUG wrote: > What I wish somebody would create is an S-100 card (probably with a > raspberry pie daughter running simulation for future upgradeability) > that, initially emulates a complete Byte-8 or Imsai computer including > memory and disk images on sdc cards, 24x40 display on an HDMI di

[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread CAREY SCHUG via cctalk
our 1620 model 2 still did multiplication by table lookup. --Carey > On 02/27/2024 9:53 PM CST Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > > On 2/27/24 18:34, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: > > > And the 1620 does addition and multiplication by table lookup. > > That was only the CADET; the Model I

[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/27/24 18:34, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: > And the 1620 does addition and multiplication by table lookup. That was only the CADET; the Model II had the math hardcoded. There was an octal arithmetic option for the Model II, so it could do binary math of a sort. Spent lots of fun hours on

[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 2/27/24 20:34, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: Again, even if somebody offered me a complete IBM model 30 with disk and tape drives, I could not afford the shipping. would A 360/30 could be a real problem.  It used air bags to push the microcode cards against the bit line boards.  Those air

[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread CAREY SCHUG via cctalk
I'd say the real cost is the second or third system to get spare parts. that is why I want to replace the WD chip. the microprocessor talks to it at bus speed. the os knows it has to wait, though some waits are for the wd chip to say it is done. a SIMPLE mod to the legacy OS can eliminate thos

[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-02-27 3:09 p.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Feb 27, 2024, at 4:49 PM, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: Religion warning: I was a mainframer. Since at any practical budget, they can only be emulated, Dumpster diving is a 0 dollar budget. People could afford the APPLE II, 80

[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/27/24 14:09, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > Suppose you had schematics of, say, a KA-10. You could turn those gates into > VHDL or Verilog, and that should deliver an exact replica of the original > machine, bug for bug compatible. That assumes the timing quirks are > manageable, which

[cctalk] Re: recreating old computers [was: Paper tape in casettes...]

2024-02-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 27, 2024, at 4:49 PM, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk > wrote: > > Religion warning: I was a mainframer. Since at any practical budget, they > can only be emulated, Depends on your definition of emulated. Is an FPGA version merely an "emulation"? You might say yes if it's a functional