[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-11 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> As far as I know none of the modern Linux virtualization systems work on > zVM. The main difference between a zVM Virtual Machine and an LPAR is in > the management facilities. Actually, KVM and qemu exist: https://docs.kernel.org/virt/kvm/s390/index.html https://qemu.readthedocs.io/en/v8.

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-11 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 11/12/2024 07:04, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: Haven't the really big machines been virtualise under a specialised version of Linux. I recall Andrew Tridgal working for IBM 15 years ago porting it to their Z series. Whilst Linux runs on Z its either in a virtual machine created by zVM o

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-11 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
To add my .02 worth there was also the programmer that thought seek times referred to a New Delhi newspaper In EE, a stable 'Q' point was often understood to mean where the horses lined up for their oats. and DeMorgan's theorem can be reduced to 'change everything and it will still do the sa

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-11 Thread Donald Whittemore via cctalk
Sorry, I was a mainframe guy. Did not mess with those ‘toys.’

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-11 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 10/12/2024 23:59, Donald Whittemore via cctalk wrote: NEAT/3 instructions www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/neat3.pdf Misc instructions www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/pl-o.pdf Misc Assembler www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/miscassembler.pdf IBM beginnings www.myimagecollection.com/w

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
Haven't the really big machines been virtualise under a specialised version of Linux. I recall Andrew Tridgal working for IBM 15 years ago porting it to their Z series. On Wed, 11 Dec 2024, 12:35 pm Donald Whittemore via cctalk, < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Has to be the mid to late 80s. Th

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-12-10 6:42 p.m., Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: Or, more importantly, are we all living in a VR? What is reality? On 12/10/2024 7:21 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: Been waiting 45 years for the new IBM OS. Not holding my breath. :) Ahhh...but are you sure we're all not already r

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I believe in the late 70's or early 80's Byte magazine did an April Fool's issue that had many of those instructions but other than Halt and Catch Fire I think the best one was: EXOP    Execute Operator  (Use of this instruction has been deprecated due to shrinking programmer pool) /The fact t

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> Or, more importantly, are we all living in a VR? "Knowledge for the peop...pupil, he said. Give them a light and they'll follow it anywhere. We think that is a fair and a wise guide, rule, to be guided by ..." > What is reality? -- personal: http://www.

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 at 20:35, Donald Whittemore via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Has to be the mid to late 80s. The new OS paper is 1989. I wrote it. :) > Interesting, I would have guessed older. Wikipedia links to Creative Computing from April 1980 which has a list of them ( https:/

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Or, more importantly, are we all living in a VR? What is reality? On 12/10/2024 7:21 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: Been waiting 45 years for the new IBM OS. Not holding my breath. :) Ahhh...but are you sure we're all not already running as tasks under OS/VR? :-) -Rick

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Donald Whittemore via cctalk
Has to be the mid to late 80s. The new OS paper is 1989. I wrote it. :)

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
> Been waiting 45 years for the new IBM OS. Not holding my breath. :) Ahhh...but are you sure we're all not already running as tasks under OS/VR? :-) -Rick

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 at 19:17, Donald Whittemore via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > NEAT/3 instructions > www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/neat3.pdf > > Misc instructions > www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/pl-o.pdf > > Misc Assembler > www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/miscassembler.pdf

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Donald Whittemore via cctalk
Been waiting 45 years for the new IBM OS. Not holding my breath. :)

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-10 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, Donald Whittemore via cctalk wrote: NEAT/3 instructions www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/neat3.pdf Misc instructions www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/pl-o.pdf Misc Assembler www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/miscassembler.pdf IBM beginnings www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs