[cctalk] Re: Gb Ethernet and 10Mb links

2023-05-29 Thread John-Paul Stewart via cctalk
On 5/29/23 14:03, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > > I believe the 10Gb standard specifically prohibits autonegotiation, so > 10G should not drop down to 1G or 100Mb/s. Is that maybe only applicable to the 10G standards for optical fibre? According to Wikipedia 10GBASE-T supports autonegotiati

[cctalk] Re: Gb Ethernet and 10Mb links

2023-05-29 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
> I believe the 10Gb standard specifically prohibits autonegotiation, so > 10G should not drop down to 1G or 100Mb/s. It drops down to 1gig just fine, at least on everything I've tested. This is of course over copper, not optical. Thanks, Jonathan

[cctalk] Re: Gb Ethernet and 10Mb links

2023-05-29 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 29/05/2023 00:30, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote Along those lines, 10gig copper interfaces often don't want to talk to 100mbit ports! Found that out when we had a switch fail and stuck an older 10/100 switch in just to get back up and running. I believe the 10Gb standard specifically

[cctalk] Re: Gb Ethernet and 10Mb links

2023-05-28 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
Best thing to do is keep an old 10mbit switch or hub around with 100mbit or gigabit uplink. Second best thing is to have a router that will talk 10mbit half duplex. I've also found some poorly behaved stuff that won't autonegotiate duplex even with older switches, like my 3Com SuperStack II. As

[cctalk] Re: Gb Ethernet and 10Mb links

2023-05-28 Thread Craig Ruff via cctalk
> On May 28, 2023, at 14:18, Paul Koning wrote: > > Dropped support for it on 10 Mb links? That seems like a crazy change to > make. I know it was defined but basically unused at higher speeds. No just the half duplex part of the standard. The 10 Mb/s full duplex links are still supported.

[cctalk] Re: Gb Ethernet and 10Mb links

2023-05-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 28, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Craig Ruff via cctalk > wrote: > > FYI: The Ethernet standards dropped support for half duplex connections a few > years back, so that if you have something that depends on half duplex links a > recent Ethernet switch might not support it. Dropped support for

[cctalk] Re: Gb Ethernet and 10Mb links

2023-05-28 Thread Peter Ekstrom via cctalk
I found that out the hard way recently when I acquired my AS/400 and the 10Mb/s card for it. It did not like talking to my 10/100/1000 switch at all. And of course I had recently gotten rid of my old 10Mb/s hub I had been saving for a couple of decades... Had to resort to eBay for an ancient hub.