FTDI recently took the same approach of having their driver deliberately brick
counterfeit chips, rather than throwing an error and refusing to talk to them.
This is why I no longer purchase their chips or design them into my projects. A
vendor who distributes drivers which deliberately brick ha
On 06/23/2015 06:05 PM, TeoZ wrote:
They didn't burn it, they just made it inoperable when the owner wanted
to install new legit copyrighted firmware. If you kept it as is when
purchased nothing would have happened.
If you took that fake unit into a company shop for free user upgrades I
think th
o rip off their logo (or deface it), remove
the ROM contents, and toss it back to you. Granted they will not get your
business but then again they never had it anyway.
-Original Message-
From: Mouse
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:05 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: [RANT]
> [It's] one thing to copy a design and stick your own name on it,
> another to clone something and stick the legit company name and logo
> on it. Why can't they brick a fake if they want to [...]
The same reason I'm not allowed to smash your car window, even if your
car bears an unauthorized cop
On 06/23/2015 02:50 PM, TeoZ wrote:
Its one thing to copy a design and stick your own name on it, another to
clone something and stick the legit company name and logo on it. Why
can't they brick a fake if they want to (after all it is the end user
trying to load copyrighted firmware on a fake pro
c and
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Subject: Re: [RANT]False Beeprog. AGAIN.
On 06/23/2015 07:57 AM, Alexandre Souza wrote:
Some years ago, I wrote about a clone of the Beeprog (made by Elnec)
I bought here locally in Brazil.
Now, seems chinese are cloning the Beeprog PLUS (!!!)
I got a Beeprog+ i
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 06:03:33PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-06-23 17:59, Alexandre Souza wrote:
> >
> >>I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
> >>not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate
> >>copy of their hardware.
> >>If
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 22:05, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/23/2015 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
What is in the NVRAM? And how did it get there in the first place? Are
you saying that it is impossible to reprogram the device with some other
firmware after y
On 2015-06-23 22:05, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/23/2015 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
What is in the NVRAM? And how did it get there in the first place? Are
you saying that it is impossible to reprogram the device with some other
firmware after you have tried the version Elnec have which dete
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
On 06/23/2015 03:13 PM, geneb wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 18:41, Alexandre Souza wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a m
On 06/23/2015 03:13 PM, geneb wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 18:41, Alexandre Souza wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware,
On 06/23/2015 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
What is in the NVRAM? And how did it get there in the first place? Are
you saying that it is impossible to reprogram the device with some other
firmware after you have tried the version Elnec have which detects your
clone?
It's possible, but as I
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
It's dead, pushing up daisies, it's run down the curtain to the Choir
Invisible. IT'S BRICKED.
Man, I LOLed with this "pushing up daisies" :D
It is most assuredly NOT pining for the fjords! :)
It is a relatively common euphemism, and is explicitly in
It's dead, pushing up daisies, it's run down the curtain to the Choir
Invisible. IT'S BRICKED.
Man, I LOLed with this "pushing up daisies" :D
It is most assuredly NOT pining for the fjords! :)
It is a relatively common euphemism, and is explicitly included in the
classic Monty Python "Dead
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Alexandre Souza wrote:
He's mentioned more than once that this software BRICKS the device. When
something is bricked, that means you might as well treat it like the stone
kind for all the use you're going to get out of it from then on.
In the last message I added (re
He's mentioned more than once that this software BRICKS the device. When
something is bricked, that means you might as well treat it like the stone
kind for all the use you're going to get out of it from then on.
In the last message I added (render it unoperable) for the ones who
don't k
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 18:41, Alexandre Souza wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
No Johnny. As I said, it bricks (renders inoperable) your hardware
if it isn't original.
Please, read it again.
On 2015-06-23 19:00, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/23/2015 09:32 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
On 2015-06-23 18:41, Alexandre Souza wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
No Johnny. As I said, it bricks (renders i
On 06/23/2015 09:32 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
You do misunderstand the situation. Elne
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if the
hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that this is
the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
No Johnny. As I said, it bricks (renders inoperable) your hardware if it
isn't origina
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Koning
> Sent: 23 June 2015 17:10
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: [RANT]False Beeprog. AGAIN.
>
>
> > On Jun 23, 2015,
On 2015-06-23 18:10, Paul Koning wrote:
On Jun 23, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 17:59, Alexandre Souza wrote:
I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate
copy of the
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> On 2015-06-23 17:59, Alexandre Souza wrote:
>>
>>> I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
>>> not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate
>>> copy of their hardware.
>>> If they
On 2015-06-23 17:59, Alexandre Souza wrote:
I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate
copy of their hardware.
If they add some additional checks, and they trap out on a clone, I
doubt that could b
I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate copy
of their hardware.
If they add some additional checks, and they trap out on a clone, I doubt
that could be considered illegal. They do not try to de
Fortunately, there are solutions to restore functionality to the clone
Beeprog. I do not know if the same obtains for the clone Plus.
Unfortunately I wasn't able - yet - to find online a working solution.
All of them are crap, just deosn't work.
On 2015-06-23 17:22, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/23/2015 07:57 AM, Alexandre Souza wrote:
Some years ago, I wrote about a clone of the Beeprog (made by Elnec)
I bought here locally in Brazil.
Now, seems chinese are cloning the Beeprog PLUS (!!!)
I got a Beeprog+ in the used market he
On 06/23/2015 07:57 AM, Alexandre Souza wrote:
Some years ago, I wrote about a clone of the Beeprog (made by Elnec)
I bought here locally in Brazil.
Now, seems chinese are cloning the Beeprog PLUS (!!!)
I got a Beeprog+ in the used market here in Brazil. Asked for Elnec
warranty, s
Some years ago, I wrote about a clone of the Beeprog (made by Elnec) I
bought here locally in Brazil.
Now, seems chinese are cloning the Beeprog PLUS (!!!)
I got a Beeprog+ in the used market here in Brazil. Asked for Elnec
warranty, since the programmer was manufactured in (month)1
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