: personal history of personal computers
I believe I describe this. There is a nylon clip that holds the guide rail for
the head assembly. This nylon was over stressed. Every machine that I've seen,
the nylon had hardened and cracked. It allows the rail to float. What happens
is that the
Sunday, January 24, 2021 3:13 PM
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Cc: Fred Cisin
Subject: Re: personal history of personal computers
On Jan 4, 2021, at 1:31 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
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> There was a little known 68K machine. It was the Canon Cat. Although
On Jan 24, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk
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> What happens if it's not possible to talk to you? Can you write up just what
> the deal is with the drive, so that everyone can learn?
And now I see that you've done so—thank you!
-- Chris
On Jan 4, 2021, at 1:31 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
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> There was a little known 68K machine. It was the Canon Cat. Although, it was
> generally not intended as a development machine, in its short life, several
> applications were developed.
> It was primarily sold as a word processor ( quite
On 1/4/2021 5:53 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
Need to grease/lube it periodically
That is your problem there! You grease pigs not cats.
Ben.
first before changing the constant for the offset.
Dwight
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> There was a little known 68K
On Mon, 2021-01-04 at 19:53 -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> Need to grease/lube it periodically
Is it English? I understand the English stopped building computers
because they couldn't figure out how to make them leak oil.
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 6:20 PM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk <
> cctalk@
Need to grease/lube it periodically
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 6:20 PM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > There was a little known 68K machine. It was the Canon Cat.
>
> I love the form factor of my Cat. Wish it was easier to "do things" with it
> though.
>
> > If you should
> There was a little known 68K machine. It was the Canon Cat.
I love the form factor of my Cat. Wish it was easier to "do things" with it
though.
> If you should ever get one, don't use the disk drive until you talk to me.
Don't leave us in suspense! However, mine seems to be fine.
--
On the issue of the Cat re-formatting disks that it couldn't read, my
suggestion was that they should add enough circuitry that it could
recognize the existence of FM, MFM, and GCR formats.
Then, it could say, "This disk appears to already be formatted for a
different kind of machine. Would y
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 1:38 PM Mike Loewen via cctalk
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> Andy Molloy had a Canon Cat at VCF East in 2006. Unfortunately, it
> smoked.
>
> http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/VCF-East2006/dscn4151-f.jpg
Someone could buy one from Jack and fix it up eBay 324441040706.
On 2021-01-04 4:38 p.m., Mike Loewen via cctalk wrote:
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> Andy Molloy had a Canon Cat at VCF East in 2006. Unfortunately, it
> smoked.
>
> http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/VCF-East2006/dscn4151-f.jpg
>
... there's one on ebay now FWIW.
--Toby
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, dwight wrote:
There was a little known 68K machine. It was the Canon Cat. Although, it was
generally not intended as a development machine, in its short life, several
applications were developed.
It was primarily sold as a word processor ( quite powerful one at that ). It
h
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Subject: Re: personal history of personal computers
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
I suppose that the 68K only trickled down to the home/consumer market
after about 5 years. The original Mac was circa $2.5K and the Lisa was
around $10K --
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Subject: Re: personal history of personal computers
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> I suppose that the 68K only trickled dow
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
I suppose that the 68K only trickled down to the home/consumer market
after about 5 years. The original Mac was circa $2.5K and the Lisa was
around $10K -- *not* home computer prices for most people, even in the
USA.
And yet, . . .
I remember an
Chuck Guzis wrote:
> Food and drink around the machines was also a definite no-no. Not just
> to prevent contamination (e.g. dumping your Coke into the keyboard of
> the operator's console)
Coke bottles caught near the DEC-10s MIT-MC and KATIA:
http://donhopkins.com/home/catalog/images/mc-consol
On 11/15/2017 09:13 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
On 2017-11-15 10:07 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 11/15/2017 07:09 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Earlier, there was the SAGE computer (the air defense
one, not the PC by the same name), which had built-in
ash trays at each oper
On 2017-11-15 10:07 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 11/15/2017 07:09 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Earlier, there was the SAGE computer (the air defense one, not the PC
by the same name), which had built-in ash trays at each operator
station.
Ash trays?? HA, they had auto-style CIGA
On 11/15/2017 07:09 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Earlier, there was the SAGE computer (the air defense one,
not the PC by the same name), which had built-in ash trays
at each operator station.
Ash trays?? HA, they had auto-style CIGARETTE LIGHTERS
BUILT INTO the "radar screen" consoles!
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
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>
> Earlier, there was the SAGE computer (the air defense one, not the PC by the
> same name), which had built-in ash trays at each operator station.
With all of the possibly apocryphal stories of computer users mistaking CD
d
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
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> On 11/15/2017 02:39 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:
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>> Perhaps the glass-room meme isn't so much bogus, as it is a sign of
>> the cultural times. In those days, the big machines were very
>> expensive, and required a lo
On 11/15/2017 02:39 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:
> Perhaps the glass-room meme isn't so much bogus, as it is a sign of
> the cultural times. In those days, the big machines were very
> expensive, and required a lot of support -- that meant special
> power, air conditioning, raised floors,
ands-on.
The glass-walled room machines weren't that way, and thus weren't
considered "personal computers", for just the reason you mentioned --
the work typically done on them was of a different class of work that
didn't require any kind of hands-on activity with the mach
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