On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 03:46:35PM +0100, Michael-John Turner via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 10:02:38PM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> > Sadly, I have long had a soft spot for Pentium Pros. Which probably
> > means that I'll pay through the nose for one some day.
>
> You're
On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 10:02:38PM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Sadly, I have long had a soft spot for Pentium Pros. Which probably
means that I'll pay through the nose for one some day.
You're not the only one :) I've owned a few over the years, including a
Dell Optiplex GXpro that w
On 05/07/2018 10:07 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
P3s are a dime a dozen, still, so paying a premium for PPro doesn't make
much sense today, unless someone just *gives* you a system.
Sadly, I have long had a soft spot for Pentium Pros. Which probably
means that I'll pay through the nose f
On 05/07/2018 08:52 PM, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote:
EISA is a nice-to-have, especially if you want to run multiple interfaces
(much better irq handling than ISA) and/or higher speed stuff like FDDI,
100Mb enet, T-3/ATM, etc. Or you already have a cache of EISA cards.
That said (and this is
On 05/07/2018 07:52 PM, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote:
> Yeah, but didn't the GX (and KX) have some pretty serious bugs until
> really late steppings? Same to a lesser extent with the NX. The BX
> (and FX) however was very reliable, as I recall.
I can only speak for my SuperMicro dual slot-1 P3
Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a '90s era PC that has PCI and
> ISA slots? Ideally I'd like to have EISA slots too. ? At least I
> think that's what I want.
EISA is a nice-to-have, especially if you want to run multiple
interfaces (much better irq hand
On 05/07/2018 07:38 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018, ben via cctalk wrote:
>> Unless you have a old copy of DOS, what OS can you get for the OLD
>> MACHINES?
>
> MS-DOS will, of course, work for all.
>
> Xenix 3.0 (1984?) worked with 8088, 512K RAM, 10MB disk.
> Microsoft had
Unless you have a old copy of DOS, what OS can you get for the OLD
MACHINES?
MS-DOS will, of course, work for all.
That should read
MS-DOS will, of course, work for all PCs.
(for some definition of "PC", that usually means 5150 derived clone)
MS-DOS will most certainly NOT work for all OLD MACH
On Mon, 7 May 2018, ben via cctalk wrote:
Unless you have a old copy of DOS, what OS can you get for the OLD MACHINES?
MS-DOS will, of course, work for all.
Xenix 3.0 (1984?) worked with 8088, 512K RAM, 10MB disk.
Microsoft had a license for Unix, since 1978, but NOT for the "Unix" name.
By mi
Windows from 1.x up to 98 SE
Linux / bsd
OS/2
NextStep
BeOS likely
Novell Netware
Likely forgot something
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On 05/07/2018 01:12 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
Unless you have a old copy of DOS, what OS can you get for the OLD
MACHINES?
I have multiple copies of older OSs that will run on the machine.
DOS / Windows: MS-DOS, PC-DOS, DR-DOS, FreeDOS, Windows 3.x, Windows
9x, Windows NT 3.x, Windows NT 4
On 5/7/2018 10:47 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 05/06/2018 12:18 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Years ago I had a Compaq desktop that had PCI and EISA slots. I'm trying
to re-acquire it from the friend that it went to.
Lo and behold the friend that has the old Compaq desktop agree
On 05/06/2018 12:18 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> Years ago I had a Compaq desktop that had PCI and EISA slots. I'm trying
> to re-acquire it from the friend that it went to.
Lo and behold the friend that has the old Compaq desktop agreed to sell
it to me. Presumably it's still in workin
On 05/07/2018 06:28 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> I ran a Cyrix 6x86-P166+ for a while as my main PC and it was a lovely
> machine.
I think I had a Cyrix CPU in an Acer Aspire that I had years ago. It
served me well. Though I didn't do much that would push the system.
> But they were goo
> From: Grant Taylor
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a '90s era PC that has PCI and
> ISA slots?
I have a bunch of HP machines, which are still in heavy use (although upgraded
to Celerons with the PowerLeap iP3/T thingys). Vectra VL6/S8's and VLi8s. I'm
very fond of them
On Mon, 7 May 2018 at 05:10, Grant Taylor via cctalk
wrote:
> I remember my AMD K6-II fondly.
I ran a Cyrix 6x86-P166+ for a while as my main PC and it was a lovely
machine.
Alas, I needed to review one of the last versions of Aldus PageMaker and it
wouldn't run on a Cyrix chip -- only on Intel
On 05/06/2018 09:00 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> SS7 = Super Socket 7. P1 Socket 7 with extras:
Ah. I wondered if it was Super Socket, but I'd (obviously) forgotten.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Socket_7
>
> Faster AMD P1-era CPUs. For example, K6-II and K6-III. Competes well
On 05/06/2018 09:01 PM, Bill Degnan wrote:
> I think I'd rather have a NeXT if I had an unlimited budget and it was
> say 1993, but that's also when Pentiums came out and changed everything.
I have a lot of respect for NeXT machines. I think I'd like to own one
some day. But I think I'm going to
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 05/06/2018 04:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> > Depends on your CPU needs, but if you're willing to settle for P2/P3
> era,
> > anything using the Intel i440BX or GX generally has very good ISA
> s
On 05/06/2018 07:45 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> I've got to say, I don't recognize SS7 as a CPU type. In fact, SS7
> means Signaling System 7 to me. Different genera, but possibly the
> proper time frame.
SS7 = Super Socket 7. P1 Socket 7 with extras:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su
On 05/06/2018 04:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> Depends on your CPU needs, but if you're willing to settle for P2/P3 era,
> anything using the Intel i440BX or GX generally has very good ISA support.
Well, to be honest, I don't have any real need beyond enough to run the
OS, a basic editor
On 05/06/2018 11:18 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a '90s era PC that has PCI and
> ISA slots? Ideally I'd like to have EISA slots too. — At least I
> think that's what I want.
Depends on your CPU needs, but if you're willing to settle for P2/P3
e
Hi,
Does anyone have any recommendations for a '90s era PC that has PCI and
ISA slots? Ideally I'd like to have EISA slots too. — At least I
think that's what I want.
I'm developing an itch to play with older networking equipment, Token
Ring, FDDI, etc. and I suspect that a machine running '98
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