On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
> The closest to microcode I'd ever heard of before is the "epicode" in
> Alpha. Or was that Prism?
PALcode? That's sort of an amalgamation of microcode and emulation, IIRC.
I don't know what 'epicode' is, though.
-Swift
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote:
> Very cool! I'm a.d.d. a bit with hobbies. On the synth side I recently
> picked up a Roland MT-32, so that was an achievement unlocked. Hope to
> find an Oberheim Matrix 6 at some point.
I'm not a keyboard guru like some on the list, but I've owned a R
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Mark Green wrote:
> I don't know a lot about data transmission, my main application is
> display.
Thanks anyway for the informed reply. Do you happen to know the best place
to view large format holograms? I'm just looking for your personal
opinion, since you seem to be in t
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote:
> I live in Virginia but go to a number of events every year. I dabble
> with music a little, have some synths and midi hardware (and of course
> an Atari ST setup, and a luggable Pentium 200 with a SB/GUS and Voyetra
> Sequencer!) Also dabble a little w
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Mark Green wrote:
> In my day job I work on computational holography and other forms of
> esoteric 3D displays, so I can give you some insight in how these things
> work.
Holography is amazing. Do you know much about so-called "free space
optical" data transmission? I worke
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Mouse wrote:
> You'd probably know, then - what's the fastest way to deflect a laser
> beam?
Whoa. Interesting problem since a photon carries no charge and thus you
can't horizontally or vertically deflect it with a magnetic field. I guess
that's why folks make things like
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote:
> Light show hobby. Inspired by the Def Leppard music video "Pour some
> sugar on me."
Killer. I wish we were neighbors, Ethan. We'd be able to throw the most
awesome block parties, I swear. I bet you are a musician, too.
> Everything is from China and
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
> I wouldn't run my $100 little VFC in production, but I expect that the
> more expensive ones from serious companies like Yaskawa or Allen-Bradley
> will do just fine.
I forgot about those. I think you are right. I've seen what I believe to
be massive VC
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote:
> The Cray is single phase, the only thing I've ever owned that was 3
> phase was the laser stuff. Now my solid state laser projector uses 100
> watts and producsed half the power of the argon that used to take 3ph @
> 30A (and still tripped the breaker
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
> Yes, and time dependent as well. I grew up in Holland; in the 1970s, we
> had 3 phase in our house because we had an electric cooking range.
As you probably know, that's not usual the setup in North America, even
for folks with electric ranges.
> In th
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
> It all depends on what you're comfortable with.
My original point was that it's not trivial. I'd stand by that point no
matter how comfortable someone is with the install. Of course, even that
is subjective, I suppose. If you have tons of time, money, an
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Swift Griggs wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote:
> >> Hmp. Well the Cray J932SE on there is legit :-)
> > The photo of that unit is entertaining. Whoever buys it will need to set
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote:
> Hmp. Well the Cray J932SE on there is legit :-)
The photo of that unit is entertaining. Whoever buys it will need to setup
3x 30A 220v outlets. That's going to make some licensed electrician very
happy.
I worked with a Cray for a while of about the s
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> I've heard that but I have never once got it to work, either in VMware
> or VirtualBox. :-(
IMHO, it's a PITA and not really worth it. Hardware-based Hackintoshes can
be fast and somewhat well supported. You just have to be very careful
about what hardw
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Mouse wrote:
> But it comes at a price. NetBSD/vax, for example, has trouble
> self-hosting, and nobody knows why, because it shows up only in native
> builds.
Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. I've only used it in the context of other
platforms and variants.
> Nobody knows w
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Austin Pass wrote:
> I'm toying with putting the "ultimate" classic Mac together, although
> I'm having a little difficulty pinning down the definition of what the
> ultimate representation of the type is, so was looking for a little
> input from Classic CMP'ers.
I've recen
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
> P.S. A full build for the board I work on (OS and creating the boot
> image) for work takes < 1 hour. The firmware I?m working on takes just
> 2-3 seconds to build! This is on a PC with a 3.2GHz Skylake i7 with
> SSDs. ;-)
Also, cross-compilers
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> Reminds me of horrible compatibility glitches with OS X in the early
> days. E.g. one of my clients had Blue & White G3s on a Windows NT 4
> network. (Later they pensioned them off, bought G5s, and gave the B&Ws
> to me! :-) )
Woot! The benefits of work
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> But in the now-gone PowerPC era, yes, Macs used a derivative of the IBM
> POWER RISC processor line.
I always thought it was a shame that both IBM and Apple were so tight
around the pucker strings and never were more comfortable sharing their
OS's back
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> Sounds great. I never saw a PLATO terminal. :-( Wish I had now!
I wish they'd had a few at schools I attended. I think someone on the list
mentioned that PLATO content could be viewed on Apple hardware, too. The
wikipedia article on it is very detailed.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> Indeed. As you've seen, I use both. No need to be all "Commodore vs
> Atari" about it. ;-)
Hehe, I forgot about that. Here I am liking both of those, now too. I
think I was playing with Hatari yesterday and eUAE last week !
> I mean vs ethernet-type
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> It was a huge deal in the late 80s and into the 90s. I was on both
> sides, so mostly, I watched.
This thread has definitely been the most civil discussion and set of
anecdotes I've seen when folks discuss VMS and Unix in the same thread. I
usually don
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Richard Loken wrote:
> And I don't get this notion about lifting the network code out of Tru64
> since VAX/VMS had UCX (not my favourite network package) before the
> Alpha and associated OSF/1, Digital Unix, Tru64 Unix. The candidate for
> lifting code would be Ultrix whic
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
> If you have one, please ping me. mine met a work accident today.
Do you happen to know if the key/keycap from an Apple Adjustable Keyboard
number pad would work? I bought a Quadra 660AV and Quadra 700 in the last
few months and the 660AV came with an AAKB
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote:
> I'm missing something here. Although most did/are using the Apple
> supplied GUI/Aqua, it wasn't a requirement.
Perhaps there is a way to run an X11 server without Aqua, but I don't know
of it. However, I'm far from an OSX expert.
> I have/run OpenWindo
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Sean Conner wrote:
> What I've read about VMS makes me think the networking was incredible.
Big Fat Disclaimer: I know very little about VMS. I'm a UNIX zealot.
I work with a lot of VMS experts and being around them has taught me a lot
more about it than I ever thought to l
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Fred Cisin wrote:
> CP/M rights later passed through to Corel and Caldera.
I have some foggy memory of Caldera using the "Digital Research" name, at
least internally and on some documents. However, it's been a long time and
the SCO-connected legacy left a terrible taste.
Y
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> That was one of the things people didn't talk about in the classic days.
> I supported classic MacOS Macs up until the early noughties. They were
> horribly unstable.
I had forgot myself until I recently started messing with OS8.1 again.
Anecdotally, la
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, Brad H wrote:
> I think the Amiga project is neat, although personally I'm not sure I'd
> find a need for one.
I have an Amiga 3000 (my personal favorite), but I have limited space so I
can only have about two "classic" systems set up at once (and those are
usually SGI mach
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, s...@hoffart.de wrote:
> > No doubt! That rarely ends well. Emulation is a tough gig.
> Executor is no emulator, and it does not seem that NuTek was/had one,
> too. It is just a (more or less) compatible clone of APIs. In principle
> as System 7 was one of System 6 - also not
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> Well I could do front and back panels. In fact anything that needs silk
> screening. Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
As a hobbyist I've made a few tee-shirts, bags, and other items using a
real silk screen, transparencies, photo resist emulsion, PVC inks, and
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Steve Browne wrote:
> The ZX Spectrum Next is going to be interesting http://www.specnext.com/
Wow! I hope that takes off. It's beautiful. Plus, in other news, they will
ship schematics! Wow.
> Look at that industrial design! Designed by Rick Dickinson who was
> behind
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> MEGA65 FPGA-based Commodore 65 remake: http://mega65.org/
That project looks amazing! Does anyone know how far along they are? The
web page is dated 2015, but that probably doesn't mean much. However, it's
clear they aren't shipping, yet.
One t
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> I'm really interested to see how they reimplemented the Toolbox under
> these circumstances, [...]
That was the ROM code, right? I'm curious about that, myself. I guess that
it can all be software emulated. I suppose they could have created some
kind
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> I vaguely recall seeing some in a mag at the time. It looked a bit like
> Mac apps running on CDE, if I remember correctly. The in-window menus
> were weird (for a Mac) and made it look more Windows-like.
That's about what I'd expect. I wonder if it coul
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> Low End Mac looks into the history of the effort to produce a
> Motif-based, clean-room Mac compatible computer in the early nineties.
Bizzaro-world. It's like Executor on steriods
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executor_%28software%29) . I never knew
t
I'm probably dreaming, but is anyone aware of DIY efforts or business
ventures aiming to reproduce a classic micro or "next-gen" classic micro?
I have seen a lot of efforts, but only one quite like that (the Altair 680
project nails it). I'm just thinking that with 3D printers and FPGA
hardwar
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Jim Brain wrote:
> Is there a defined maintenance window for the list? Has it been
> published? Will users be impacted by this change? If so, I am not sure I
> am comfortable with the server being unavailable on a Friday night.
> We're still using the service at 10PM. Has
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> I can remember more functionality via WordStar keystrokes than I can via
> vi ones! :-)
That's the very reason I teach Vi in classes but privately still use Joe
extensively. I prefer muscle-memory-macro-keystrokes over what I'd call
"conscious modes". I
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> WordStar commands for that operation would be:
> Mark beginning of block: ^K B
> Mark end of block: ^K K
> (WordStar did not allow block selection with the cursor keys.)
AFAIK, original Wordstar didn't, but the Borland IDE and Joe does. Just
hold down ctrl
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> WordStar commands are still used in some things, such as JOE.
You are right and I use Joe daily, hmm, more like hourly. I'm typing this
message in it, right now, in fact. It's my $EDITOR and default composition
editor in Alpine, my go-to mail client.
> H
On Thu, 7 Jul 2016, Mouse wrote:
> I see it in monitors. I've been repeatedly annoyed by modern
> flatscreens that refuse to even try to do what CRTs from twenty years
> ago routinely did.
I'll pile on, too. I'm always grumbling about monitors that use some kind
of super-crap algorithm to scale
On Thu, 7 Jul 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> To this day, I still use "joe" as my all-around text editor under Linux
> and BSD. It uses mostly WS key conventions.
Same here. I love Joe. I got used to WS keystrokes from Borland compiler
suites. Incidentally, George R.R. Martin (author of the Song of
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Yes, the author seems to be young enough to think of "word-processing"
> as starting with TRS80/Apple][.
I can forgive him. So few people actually got to put their hands on
mainframe and "real" (non-micro) computers before the PC "revolution". I
was in th
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016, Tothwolf wrote:
> Does your system have the color video board installed? If not, you'll
> only be able to use the monochrome monitor. I have a Model 2000 system
> in the same state, no color video board fitted and in need of a
> monochrome monitor.
Doesn't look like the sam
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016, Al Kossow wrote:
> the later manuals are tough to find. I've been looking since the last
> time someone asked about them a year or two ago
Those things are neat. They appear to be a paper terminal using thermal
paper and an acoustic coupler. Wargames comes to mind of course.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2016, pete wrote:
> > I'd love to see results under IRIX, as I was thinking of trying one or both
> > of those myself!
> Seconded, though it looks like it'll be considerably slower than a real SCSI2
> hard drive.
I'm not sure about that. I've got another ACARD unit (the faster SCA
Tested using "Raw block speed" test in LIDO 7 under MacOS:
[SCSI2SD v5]
READ: 891 KB/s
WRITE: 728 KB/s
[ACARD ARS-2000SUP]
READ: 1621 KB/s
WRITE: 1277 KB/s
More info:
The ACARD device contains a Samsung 850 Pro 128G SSD. The SCSI2SD contains
a Samsung Pro+ 64GB micro SD and is runnin
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Jay West wrote:
> [...] besides filling about 1/2 the box with foam peanuts. One could not
> imagine a 264X could look like it was put in a blender, but this one
> literally poured out of the box. *sigh*
It's amazing how much stuff UPS had managed to destroy "for" me, also.
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
> By contrast, a Tex 401x is a storage tube, which puts it at the other
> extreme: once you draw a character or line, it would stay without any
> further action. You can't erase it; the only erase available is a full
> screen erase.
That reminds me vague
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Ben Sinclair wrote:
> killingsworth.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm set up to go onsite this afternoon, and I've got new SD cards and two
> I assume Todd is lost in the warehouse, or just kept all of the
> new-in-box Lisp machines, SGIs, and System 360s for himself!
He's prob
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016, James Vess wrote:
> I was looking and found that the Tektronix 4010 is a calligraphic
> display, for which I found a video!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IztxeoHhoyM Let me know if it bares a
> resemblance to the display on the 6600
I was just looking at those things, t
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, Toby Thain wrote:
> Do you have a counterproposal? What problem do you think UTF-8 is trying
> to solve?
Oh, heck no! I don't have any wish to wade into that particular swamp full
of alligators. I have no counterproposal and as far as "what problem is
UTF-8 trying to solve?
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, Rich Alderson wrote:
> We have one running at LCM, attached to an instance of dtCyber, the
> 6000/Cyber simulator, via John Zabolitzky's Xilinx-based display
> adapter. We're in the process of refurbing the one that came with the
> 6500, which we may attach to the system at
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> You don't seem to realize how expensive these systems were to operate.
I'm sure I don't (but hey! give me credit for trying). I'm betting that
even "expensive" systems of today (barring ultra-massive HPC SSI rigs) are
cheap by comparison in inflation-ad
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> I think Paul's covered that pretty well. I'll add that the more complex
> the display, the more flicker was present.
The descriptions are fascinating. I hope I can see one operating some day.
Do you know of any still operational ?
> >> Much of the archi
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, william degnan wrote:
> I picked up a DEC VR201 display today, it was leaking a highly corrosive
> brown liquid. So corrosive it burned my skin painfully / immediately
> and I had to wash hands thoroughly.
PH test it, if you can. If it's caustic, then I'd suspect condensate
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> > - It had some wicked cool "demos", to cop a C64 term. (ADC, PAC, EYE)
> Those were mostly toys to amuse the CEs, like the baseball game BAT.
I was trying to find some video of one of those actually running. I wanted
to see how the "calligraphic displays
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Rich Alderson wrote:
> > - It used odd sized (by todays standards) register, instruction, and bus
> > sizes. 60 bit machine with 15/30 bit instructions. But, didn't it cause
> > a bunch of alignment issues for you ?
> ??? Alignment issues? Care to define this? Are you
To my sorrow, I'd never heard of the CDC 6600 and I barely knew who
Control Data was (whippersnapper, I know). I see a lot of traffic about
them on the list and I went out to discover "why so cool?" Wikipedia and
other spots talk about the features, but I'm trying to understand from
folks who
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Todd Killingsworth wrote:
> Any other recommendations from the list at large on information to get?
If it says "SGI" or "Silicon Graphics" speak up someone is probably
going to be interested.
-Swift
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> In short: no.
Thanks, Cameron. At least now I know.
> In long: NetBoot requires a G4 or a late G3, and that would imply pretty
> much only 8.6 and up.
Hmm, that's what I'd seen so far and was lead to believe.
> You *can* netboot a *IIgs* from an Ap
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> For learning, I really recommend this Coursera MOOC:
> https://www.coursera.org/learn/build-a-computer/home/welcome
Hmm, I had to sign up with them, but I did it. I wanted to see this
simulator. It's a very "slick" course with lots of way-cool to
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
> used to how C or similar languages work. For example, in this C code:
> a = 1;
> b = a;
> a and b will both equal 1 at the end. But in the VHDL code:
> a <= 1;
> b <= a;
Whoa. That makes total sense, though. In the real world, I'm
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
> Some PALs, PLAs, and GALs will yield the fuse map if you try and read them
> with a programmer. This makes your job really easy. Take the fuse map and
> compare to the original data sheet. Cool beans.
That sounds like magic. I'm reading about what "fuse map
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
> The hardest part of the process is distilling the functional
> specification of the part you are trying to replace. This is the heart
> of the topic.
Hmm, okay so that's pretty much what I expected. They start with what that
particular chip or ROM etc..
In my recent studies of electronics (I'm a noob for all practical
purposes) I keep seeing folks refer to Verilog almost as a verb. I read
about it in Wikipedia and it sounds pretty interesting. It's basically
described as a coding scheme for electronics, similar to programming but
with extras
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Jay West wrote:
> This has drifted too far off topic.
Not to mention that it could go on for freakin' years. It's a "wedge
issue" as they'd say in politics. I'm done. FYI. It's my last systemd
related post to the list (or probably any list) for me. The PoS has
already t
Due to the news about the MacOS name change, it's becoming quite hard to
Google for older MacOS stuff. Was it ever possible to netboot MacOS 8.1 or
earlier? I have A/UX 3 running nicely on a Quadra 700, now, but now I want
to dual boot it with MacOS, but I don't have a CDROM. Taking out the dri
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016, Stefan Skoglund (lokal anv?ndare) wrote:
> What i don't like about systemd is: the fud about how easy it is to
> write systemd unit files vs old shell script init.d/ditos .
In most simple cases, their argument is that it's easier to write a unit
file because you don't need t
> And yet, now that significant chunks of the Linux underpinnings are
> being combined into one purpose-written close-knit chunk, designed by a
> single team, the same sort of people that praise *BSD for its conceptual
> unity are harshly damning the thing bringing comparable unity to Linux.
>
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, rescue wrote:
> Don't have time to fully check it out, but check out:
> http://chrislawson.net/writing/macdaniel/2k1130cl.shtml
Thanks. That doc mirrors my current understanding, but it doesn't address
the ROM hack I'm contemplating.
-Swift
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, rescue wrote:
> Didn't hacked or 3rd party cd-rom drivers exist?
I have some vague memory, but I was thinking that could just be wishful /
convenient memory on my part.
> That won't handle the boot problem, but the boot checks might not be as
> thorough as Disk Setup ???
W
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
> Despite being shipped in the original SMBX designed carton, UPS dealt a
> great deal of damage to the system. It looks like it was hit by a truck.
Dangit! I knew I shoulda been going faster when I hit that UPS truck.
*ducks*
!!!JOKING!!! :-)
> Is the
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, et...@757.org wrote:
> I'm not sure if it has anything to do with it, but over on the early SGI
> and Sun and NeXT stuff you had to change the block size on the CD-ROM to
> get them to work.
Yeah, I think you mean the 2048 vs 512 byte block size. SGI's use a 512
byte size,
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote:
> I'm not arguing your stance. Real hardware is the best. That said,
> after you have ran out of room due to too many other systems, I would
> rather have the opportunity to experience A/UX, or Rhapsody or even AIX
> 1.3x via virtualization or emulation,
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, azd30 wrote:
> Thanks for the patches / images Seth... I can verify that SunOS 4.1.4
> image from winworld, works - I have it installed on my SparcStation20.
> The only thing that failed to extract/install properly was OpenWindows.
> Now, there were two images on the site, a
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote:
> I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO.
-Swift
On older Apple 68k machines, having an Apple-branded CDROM means you can
be assured it'll boot (though it's rumored that many generic SCSI CDROMs
work for booting) and also that it'll "just work" on most of the OSs.
I'm guessing it's a simple check to see if the vendor in the firmware is
"APP
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> In Ireland, "gear" means hard drugs, so maybe it's safer!
Whoa. I didn't know that. You are right. I'll have to convert to using
"kit" exclusively next time I'm in the UK. I'm usually just in Heathrow or
Gatwick waiting to fly out to Oslo. I still have s
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> Might have got it like that & never noticed...?
He claimed to be the original owner, and he was a teacher. He probably got
it as part of some educational program, maybe it was used then. I dunno.
Maybe it was at a school that had a lot of macs and they r
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Al Kossow wrote:
> Quadra verisons of machines generally had a faster CPU, or had the
> non-LC version with FP. Sadly, the Q800 was crippled because they wanted
> the 840AV to have a faster processor.
That is sad. Damn market-droids.
> The Q800 board will work fine with a
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> ... that looks like a 6100 case, so maybe someone re-cycled part of a
> case cover or something?
I think that's likely. I don't see much else that could explain it. It's
just that it's weird, since the owner didn't seem very technical.
> A decade later
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Brendan Shanks wrote:
> Where is the PowerPC label?
Right on the front of the PC. It's offset a bit over the front face near
the floppy drive. It looks just like the "PowerPC" logo on a 6100 or
something.
> Is it printed on the case underneath the floppy drive (like it is o
I noticed someone selling a 660AV in my area on Craigslist. I went and got
it because for $50 he had a nice little Apple display with the machine
that matches my Quadra 700 and an Apple Adjustable Keyboard in good
condition to go with it. Turns out he gave me a whole slew of spare mice
and an
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Chris Hanson wrote:
> The closest I got was bringing up GCC 2.95.3 using the system compiler,
> I couldn?t manage to build GCC 3.3 or 4.2.1 for SunOS. (For legal
> reasons I can?t really go near GPLv3 developer tools.)
Last time I tried was around gcc v4.7 and it failed miser
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote:
> SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at
> https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599
Methinks it's bogus. It's only 40.23MB in size on that site. I have the
ISO on my file server at home and that's not even close:
$ du -h
I saw some retro gear on CL today.
20Mhz 386 PS/2 lookin' thing
http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/5589047344.html
which is this:
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/30497/IBM-Model-8573-121/
And this one:
http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/5589142407.html
which is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> Well, one thing that I note is that only an idiot transports valuable
> data on "loose" 2400' 10.5" reels.
Great point. I took that into consideration with my last swag.
> This is better than the hard-plastic cases, which could get to be quite
> thick o
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Sean Conner wrote:
> Sounds somewhat similar to the server (email and web, on the public
> Internet co-located) I used up through 2004-5. It was an NCR-3230
> system and was a 486.
Ohhh, yeah, that's a nice box! Kind of like what I'm looking for. Found a
youtube video for
New info, then commentary:
Station Wagon full of tapes = 302.64 GB
Cigarette pack full of microSD = 880 GB
* Corrected volume calcs (least I think I did)
* Switched to 2400 ft tapes with 3M cases (thanks Chuck)
* Switched to MicroSD (but no SDHC) so.. 2G only
Okay, now the commentary and upd
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Mike Stein wrote:
> How many station wagons full of 9-track tapes would fit into a (20)
> cigarette box filled with microSD cards?
Station wagon full of tapes = 51 GB
Pack of stogies full of SD = 2816 GB
It's not fair using 9-track tapes, but let's go with it.
Let's conside
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> As it happens, this is nearly exactly what I have: EISA (with an AWE32
> ISA sound card) with a VLB video card.
Ahh, the AWE32. I had one of those, too. They came with some funny tools.
I remember "Dr Sabatsio" cracked me up.
> The CPU is an Am5x86 13
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Sam O'nella wrote:
> I'm a bit surprised at the recommendation of Dell but maybe they weren't
> playing all their proprietary games yet.
I was a little surprised, too. However, different strokes for different
folks, I suppose. My experience with Dell machines mostly mirrors y
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, TeoZ wrote:
> The ultimate gaming 486 would have an EISA+VLB motherboard.
Yes, I would agree on that. However, since I'm mostly interested in
running older Unix variants and DOS, games aren't at the top of my value
system. Don't get me wrong, I love games, and I'd surely have
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Fred Cisin wrote:
> MOST of the "2.88M" drives (2.81MiB) drives could also do 1.4M; same FDC
> but needed device driver and twice the data transfer rate for 2.8M.
Heh, 2.88" disks were like unicorns. I heard all about them, but I never
saw them for sale or people using them.
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, william degnan wrote:
> I have been very happy with my Dell 486 66 Win 3.11 system.
I've had a few OptiPlex machines as workstations given to me by my
corporate masters. They were decent machines. I'm a little put off on Dell
for servers after working in a shop where we got b
Here's what I'm currently looking at (all 486's, but I'd consider 386s and
original Pentiums, too):
* Compaq Prolinea systems
* Canon ObjectStation
* NEC Powermate
* HP Vectra
* IBM Aptiva or PS/1
Not considering:
* Beige Packard Bell with Microsoft Sound System and a 1M graphics card.
:-)
I'
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Toby Thain wrote:
> Big +1 to inertialcomputing! That's where I bought mine. I just checked
> the correspondence about it and I notice that the seller was very
> accommodating and helpful.
I just got one yesterday. It should arrive by Monday. I had a bunch of
special instruc
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, pete wrote:
> AAT. 2048 bytes is the common CDROM standard, used by PCs and their
> ilk, whereas SGIs want 512-byte blocks on CDROMs.
Ah, quite right. Thanks, Pete.
> Some SGIs/IRIX versions (eg Indy and later, running IRIX 5.3 or later)
> will issue a command to make the C
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