[cctalk] Re: VCF West 2025 Hotel Block Still Available!

2025-07-23 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 23/07/2025 02:17, Jeffrey Brace via cctalk wrote: What do you mean you haven't booked your hotel room for VCF West 2025? No, considering I live in Europe, and it has become clear that traveling to the US can be a rather horrible experience that I'd rather avoid. Julf

[cctalk] Compaq Proliant Essentials CDs

2025-07-21 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Anyone need the Compaq management software pack for Proliant servers? I am based in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Julf

[cctalk] Re: Compaq 9.1GB Ultra3 SCSI disks + Hot Plug Drive Trays

2025-07-20 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Forgot to mention that I am based in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Julf On 20/07/2025 13:47, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: Anyone need Compaq hot plug SCSI drives and/or drive trays (part number 386536-001)? I have 16 of them spare. Julf

[cctalk] Compaq 9.1GB Ultra3 SCSI disks + Hot Plug Drive Trays

2025-07-20 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Anyone need Compaq hot plug SCSI drives and/or drive trays (part number 386536-001)? I have 16 of them spare. Julf

[cctalk] Re: May Repair and Social Meeting Reminder

2025-05-18 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 18/05/2025 04:12, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: No one showed up today.  Have we all lost interest.  Should I schedule another one for June? Well, it was a bit too far to just pop in from here (Amsterdam). Julf

[cctalk] Re: Wang TTL BASIC

2025-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 04/05/2025 21:17, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Good point. And yet another is ALGOL 60 A more obscure one - The Nokia MPS-10, a 32-bit supermini from 1983, with a microprogrammed architecture optimized for Ada. https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/989798.989799 Julf

[cctalk] Re: Wang TTL BASIC

2025-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 04/05/2025 20:39, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: A language for which specific machines have been built a number of times is FORTH Another is Lisp. Julf

[cctalk] Re: Wang TTL BASIC

2025-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 04/05/2025 19:36, Steve Lewis wrote: But aren't modern ASICs essentially that idea of software-implemented- in-hardware, mainly for dedicated performance? I would think of it more as "hardware assisted software" - figure out what parts are especially critical for performance and implement as

[cctalk] Re: Wang TTL BASIC

2025-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 03/05/2025 23:18, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: Is anyone out there familiar with the Wang 2200 BASIC? Of about 1973/1974 I worked on them for a couple of years back in the day. Still carry the trauma. My question is, was its basically really "built" using TTL logic/chips? The system d

[cctalk] Re: Why I am not worried about AI taking over the world!

2025-04-09 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 09/04/2025 20:21, John Foust via cctalk wrote: I don't have a problem with skepticism about it. Call it a parlor trick all day long, tell me it's not *truly* intelligent, but you should also examine it enough to get to the point where you'll say "that's truly an amazing and perhaps sometimes

[cctalk] Re: Why I am not worried about AI taking over the world!

2025-04-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 03/04/2025 02:10, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Except that no one ever wrote code like it offered me cause it was just plain wrong and wouldn't work. Indeed. As I wrote it has no actual understanding. It just combines things based on statistics. It is like Mark V. Shaney, the chatbot t

[cctalk] Re: Why I am not worried about AI taking over the world!

2025-04-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 02/04/2025 19:44, John Foust via cctalk wrote: Think of it like old-school "pair programming" that gives you a friend in your cube to talk to. As long as you remember that the "AI" (really not AI, just a generative large language model) doesn't actually understand what it is doing - it is ju

[cctalk] Re: Elliott Algol

2025-02-15 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 15/02/2025 20:53, ben via cctalk wrote: Some how 6 bit characters seems more standard, text wise, compared with the mess with accented characters and money characters of today. 6 bit characters were fine if you didn't care about proper capitalization and your only language was English.

[cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now

2025-02-01 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 01/02/2025 18:42, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: I think the Epson MX80 was responsible for standardising the Centronics interface :-) Ooh yes, fond memories, that was the first printer I could actually afford. Julf

[cctalk] Re: Multics on Intel, was Re: Print chain for 1403

2024-12-25 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 25/12/2024 05:57, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: Stop by and visit us over on FreeBSD sometime, we abhor systemd :-) And there is of course Devuan - systemd-free debian. That's what I run on my laptop and desktop, servers are all freebsd. Julf

[cctalk] Re: Ward Christensen NY Times Obituary

2024-11-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 11/2/24 01:15, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: For a few year VMS was the OS of the "internet". I remember wondering in 1991 or 1992 if UNIX would still be around by 2000 From what I can recall, there were a lot of VAXen on the net, but the vast majority was running BSD. Julf

[cctalk] Re: Ward Christensen NY Times Obituary

2024-11-01 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
UNIX might have been unobtainium in your home, but a lot of BBS's used UUCP to get email and USENET connectivity, and a huge amount of students had modem access to an UNIX computer at their university. Julf On 10/24/24 04:36, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: Yes, UUCP was literally a thi

[cctalk] Re: Might be antique computer parts

2024-10-03 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 03/10/2024 19:56, ben via cctalk wrote: Not like old computers, that could sing and drives could dance. :) I know the PDP-8 could do music thru a AM radio. Did they ever have it sing? No, they used DecTalks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0Ko1GUiSo&pp=ygUecGV0ZXIgbGFuZ3N0b24gZWVkaWUgYW5k

[cctalk] Re: Antonio's call for donations (was LCM auction)

2024-08-31 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 31/08/2024 19:34, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk wrote: Well, everybody who watched the documentary "Iron Sky: The Coming Race" knows that, of course. And if you haven't seen the original Iron Sky then you will never appreciate Space Nazis in the same way... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ir

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

2024-08-29 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
I vote for cat. Julf On 30/08/2024 04:02, cz via cctalk wrote: ED! ED MAN! MAN ED! Ed is the standard text editor.. On 8/29/2024 9:50 PM, Christian Kennedy via cctalk wrote: On 8/29/24 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [snip] We have our own non-theological religious war

[cctalk] Re: Antonio's call for donations (was LCM auction)

2024-08-29 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 29/08/2024 23:28, Mychaela Falconia via cctalk wrote: Specifically: I am potentially willing to donate my equipment and/or my cash only to those who are Pureblood, meaning UNvaccinated. I assume you are aware that child mortality was 50% well into the 20th century, and was still 25% in 1950.

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-08-05 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 05/08/2024 15:55, John Maxwell via cctalk wrote: Well, my friend, the guns are the only thing that keep us free from tyranny! Voting and proper checks and balances (broken by the current US Supreme Court) is what keeps us free from tyranny, not guns. Julf

[cctalk] Re: the 1968 how to build a working digital computer

2024-07-21 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 21/07/2024 00:23, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: A few years ago I got a FLIR camera, and on the back it says "export controlled" It's the only consumer-device I ever got that has an explicit Export Controlled sticker on it. I imagine if I were to bring it with me on a trip to China, that pro

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

2024-07-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
It becomes a political discussion. On one hand the US is all about "free trade" (when it is an issue of selling US products abroad) but then the US imposes trade barriers against other countries. Yes, the Chinese government does subsidise exports. So do most countries. Julf On 02/07/20

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

2024-06-27 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 27/06/2024 19:30, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: As I previously stated I tried that just a month or two ago. Got zero offers. Scrapped a whole bunch of stuff cause keeping everything I have now just isn't an option anymore. An extra problem for us living outside the US is that freight/

[cctalk] Re: FWIW CD & DVD demagnitizitation [was: Double Density 3.5" Floppy Disks]

2024-05-07 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 08/05/2024 05:53, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: [1] Apparently there's a slogan on the wall of the QUAD workshop 'Ohm's Law rules here. Oxygen-free cable is not required' That would have been back when Quad was run by Peter J. Walker who was a no-nonsense engineer. Unfortunately the company i

[cctalk] Re: APL (Was: BASIC

2024-05-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 02/05/2024 01:51, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: What would our world be like if the first home computers were to have had APL, instead of BASIC? I don't know, but if you had asked "What would our world be like if the first home computers were to have had SmallTalk or even ALGOL instead of BAS

[cctalk] Re: Charles Stross, replay the bubble of 1995, alt history plus retrocomp

2024-04-28 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 28/04/2024 01:14, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: Fortunately, in the US the net wasn't run by the Post Office No, but fore a very long time the phone network was run by a government-granted monopoly, Ma Bell. Hadn't the divestiture happened, AT&T had their own dinosaur ideas and would have do

[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History

2024-01-16 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 16/01/2024 16:29, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: I suppose it's easier on byte-oriented machines but it seems doable on others. ANSI FORTH may be helpful for this, since it explicitly distinguishes between "character address" and "cell address" (meaning word address). Good point - that wo

[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History

2024-01-16 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 16/01/2024 16:04, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: FORTH by its nature actually fits well in Harvard architectures. Indeed - but it really doesn't fit machines that aren't byte-oriented. I started on porting FIG-FORTH to the PDP-10 architecture but quickly abandoned the effort... Julf

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-06-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 05/06/2023 00:37, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk wrote: Eh, this engineer strongly prefers a _practical_ car. That is why we have a Toyota Avensis station wagon - one of the last ones made. Never sold in the US. Unfortunately the successor (Camry) wich I liked because it has a linux-based e

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-05 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 04/05/2023 22:46, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Any flamewars that you were reading are probably still active. I guess the site is called eternal-september for a reason :) Julf

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Thanks! Wow, they even provide UUCP batches! Julf On 04/05/2023 20:00, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 18:49, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( I use Eternal September, via Thunderbird. Works

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
A shame. :( Julf On 04/05/2023 19:51, Patrick Finnegan wrote: It seems like all of the good USENET providers are subscription services now. I'm not sure of any ISP that I've heard of who still runs one. Pat On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:49 PM Johan Helsingius via cct

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( Back in the 80's I used to run the USENET (and UUCP) gateway for Finland. Julf On 04/05/2023 18:47, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 5/4/2023 10:35 AM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: On 04/05/2023 14:59,

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 04/05/2023 14:59, geneb via cctalk wrote: FidoNet is still a thing too. So is USENET. Julf

Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers

2021-03-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
That's what I suspected. Thanks! Julf On 02-03-2021 12:26, wrco...@wrcooke.net wrote: On 03/02/2021 4:07 AM Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: Not sure pics make it to the list, but trying... Julf The list only allows plain text, no pictures (not even html text) Wil

Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers

2021-03-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 01-03-2021 21:53, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'd be interested in pictures if you have some handy. Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/zGydaWcxE5v7ngdk7 Julf

Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers

2021-03-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 01-03-2021 21:53, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'd be interested in pictures if you have some handy. Not sure pics make it to the list, but trying... Julf

Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers

2021-03-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 01-03-2021 21:53, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'd be interested in pictures if you have some handy. Don't seem to be able to attach pics to messages to cctalk, but sent you a private message. Found some old stuff on the web: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2591907/ibm-agrees-to-r

Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers

2021-03-02 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 01-03-2021 21:40, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: Wait. Transmeta?? Which chip, specifically? I assume running in x86 mode. Crusoe (TM5600), 633 MHz Definitely in x86 mode (the blades came preconfigured with either Windows or Red Hat). Each blade could have 128, 256 or 512M of DIMM SDRAM

Any interest in RLX blade servers

2021-03-01 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
RLX Technologies pioneered the blade server concept between 1999 and 2005 (when they got acquired by HP). I have two of their early RLX 24 blade enclosures, one fully populated with 24 transmeta-based processor blades, and the other with 19 blades. Julf

Re: Usenet and Google Groups

2021-01-31 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 31-01-2021 20:35, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > As my age catches up on me (more lately) I really miss many of > the people I knew in the early USENIX years.  Sadly, they seem > to be fading from my memories faster every day now. Hear hear! Julf (formerly seismo!mcvax!penet!julf

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-15 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 15-12-2020 10:40, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > It's nothing new. 15y ago or something, there were umpteen Communities > on Livejournal for any conceivable subject or interest -- most created > by kids without the wits to check for others' before creating their > own. This is one of the reas

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-15 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 15-12-2020 00:38, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Would you like me to post these lists on the Facebook vintage-computer > collectors' groups for you, Don? Seems to be the usual FB problem - too many similar groups. :) Julf

Re: Regional accents and dialects (Was: The best hard drives??

2020-11-19 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 19-11-2020 18:11, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > They're soft but not silent in my accent. But you're from the northwest and > all > bets are off when it comes to how the pie-eaters speak. Presumably at least > the > "P" in "psalm" is silent, because that really does sound weird if not. h

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-09 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
(English at end) Hej! > Har du fortfarande kvar några av systemen ? Ja, en Proliant 6000, en DL380, och en tower-typ maskin med 8 diskplatser (skall kolla typen senare), och säkert 20 caddyn och hårdskivor. > Vikt (tittade pga frågan om diskarna på vad frakten från Nederländerna > skulle kosta

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-08 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 08-07-2020 12:41, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > As a guideline, PostNL quote €18.20 (≈USD20.50) for its single grade of packet > post to "world". The 2kg weight limit is good for two or three typical 3.5" > hard disks of around 700g each. It's cheaper to the rest of Europe (and UK) > but >

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-08 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 07-07-2020 22:58, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I might be tempted to scratch an itch and play with the 6000 if I were at a > swap meet and could pick it up for a song.  But I'm not a serious shopper for > it. Right, and shipping it anywhere will be seriously expensive considering the we

Re: R: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-07 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 07-07-2020 17:45, Alessandro Mazzini wrote: > Flebay is quite overpriced, sadly ( personal opinion anyway, from the point > of view of someone that's now looking at finding a thing since months and is > fixated about a real price vs an enflated one Not disagreeing. Julf

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-07 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 07-07-2020 17:46, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > I think I sold my last 2 or 3 before I emigrated for circa €50 each. > 5.25" HD floppy drives went for more than that. Wow! I guess I have been a bit hasty with taking stuff to recycling. :-/ Wonder if someone would be interested in either of

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-07 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 07-07-2020 16:48, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > I would also suggest advertising or offering these online. Vintage Mac > collectors, as well as all manner of vintage UNIX box collectors, are > finding it increasingly difficult to find SCSI drives these days. Some > are happy to go with SCSI2S

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-07 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 06-07-2020 23:54, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > /Which/ caddie are they?  Can we see a picture of them?  Both the front > visible from outside of the system and the connector(s). Pictures at https://imgur.com/a/iJU6YBH The drives are Ultra Wide 3 SCSI. I think they are the same as this:

About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-06 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Hi! I have a box full of Compaq SCSI server disk caddies (with 9.1G disks in them). Feels silly to dump them into e-waste recycling, but there probably isn't much point in shipping them very far either (I am in Amsterdam). Julf

About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-06 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Hi! I have a box full of Compaq SCSI server disk caddies (with 9.1G disks in them). Feels silly to dump them into e-waste recycling, but there probably isn't much point in shipping them very far either (I am in Amsterdam). Julf

Re: Duplicate messages

2020-06-11 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 11-06-2020 11:35, Peter Coghlan via cctech wrote: > In my experience, the only way to avoid duplicates under the current setup > is to subscribe to the cctalk view of the list and to have everyone post > only to cctalk. I think many others have worked this out too because very > few of us post

Duplicate messages

2020-06-11 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Hi! Anyone else getting duplicate messages from this list? I get 2 copies of most (but not all) messages, with the second copy often arriving significantly later. Julf

Compaq Proliant parts

2020-06-05 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Anyone in need of a Proliant 6000 / 7000 CPU board (unused), and hotswap hard disk cartridges? https://imgur.com/a/3h9VBmH Julf

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-28 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 28-05-2020 19:38, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Now, the *nix weenies who know nothing else thing you could learn > Python in a week. Yeah right. Well, I did... Julf

Re: Looking for old Suns

2020-05-23 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 22-05-2020 23:58, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > Are they in the Netherlands ? Yes. Amsterdam. > btw är du finlandssvensk ? Jo, det är jag. :) Julf

Re: Looking for old Suns

2020-05-05 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
I have a bunch of the pizza box SPARC ones that need to find a proper home, but they are somewhat special as they were the ones from one of the first pan-European Internet service providers (EUnet). Julf On 03-05-2020 17:22, silvercreekvalley via cctalk wrote: > Hi, > > Every now and aga