On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 05:31:49PM -0400, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote:
> On 2024-08-31 17:24, The Doctor via cctalk wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 31st, 2024 at 00:29, Fred Cisin via
> > cctalk wrote:
> >
> > > From an engineering perspective, always wear the foil hat with the shiny
> >
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:00:25PM +0100, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 10:54 PM Zane Healy via cctalk
...
> Even v7 Unix didn't have halt or reboot.
sync;sync;sync
power off
I remember it well.
>
> Warner
>
> >
>
Diane
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On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 06:48:11PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> > What about M-DISC DVDs and BluRays? Archival grade, not susceptible
> to magnetism or EMP. I think BluRay discs are made of a harder material than
> DVDs and don’t scratch as easily.
>
...
>
> I am interested in whatev
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:51:10AM -0600, Craig Ruff via cctech wrote:
> Having gone through many mathematics courses it was common to also place a
> slash on the letter Z to distinguish it from the numeral 2. Also for persons
> from Europe where they slashed the numeral 7 to distinguish it from
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 07:48:36PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 4/26/22 19:05, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> > I remember about 30 years ago, a registration card for a Microsoft
> > product had specific forms that they wanted for certain letters, for the
> > sake of a slightly inadequ
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 03:51:41PM +, Dave via cctalk wrote:
> Hi all,
> I see that SIMH incorporates the 32-bit Xerox Sigma architectures. The Sigma
> 8/9/5x0 architectures are commented out but compile fine Does anyone know if
> those later architectures have known issues?
> Has anyone su
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 11:09:02PM -0400, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to find homes for:
>
>22 x 11" reels
>5 x 9"
>2 x 7"
>
> Most rated up to 6250bpi, a handful to 3200bpi. Some CONTROL DATA
> branded, rest mixed brands. All in decent condition.
hah! I also ha
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 04:39:06AM +, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 08:20:44PM -0700, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
> > Wifey has phone numbers and knows about several of these lists.
Reminds of that chat we had at BSDCan a few years ago eh?
>
> ;-)
Diane
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d...
Somehow these were sitting in my basement rafters for years.
The tape seems ok on the big reels but I believe one of the small
reels was gummy. Several write rings on the pile too.
I'd rather not have to box these up TBQH but I will if someone
really wants them.
Location Ottawa Ontario Canada
h
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:38:42AM -0400, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 24, 2021, at 6:34 AM, Diane Bruce wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 09:09:55PM -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 23, 20
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 09:09:55PM -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Tom Stepleton via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > For the sake of illustration to folks who are not necessarily used to
> > thinking about what computers do at the machine cod
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:49:44AM -0500, Todd Goodman via cctalk wrote:
> At least you didn't call us all "Merkins"...
I've done that and yes before you ask I know what it means.
*whistles innocently*
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 01:02:39PM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 02:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > Most of us "merkens" haven't truly mastered one language.
...
> "balm" and "psalm" is _no longer_ silent and is actively pronounced in
> some regions of th
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:08:00AM +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I posted to and saw my message got stuck in the mail
> queue. Upon a further inspection I saw that the domain has expired along
> with `mrbill.net' where the nameservers used to reside and both have been
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 09:39:41PM +0200, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 07:24:40PM +, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > Use modern email program that sees expanded char. Sets and
...
>
> Besides, once the html or any other non-pure text format takes over,
> everybo
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 01:41:39PM -0700, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
> > > I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP.
> >
> > Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D
>
> Philistines, all of you. I use a hacked version of Elm.
mutt!
> --
>
I've kept quiet on this thread but now I'm getting curious since I was
the one tasked in porting our vendor copy of GWBASIC to the
Dynalogic Hyperion. The original work had been done by a contractor
and his graphics weren't particularly fast. As I remember it, it was
provided with hooks for the va
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:31:56AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:13 AM Diane Bruce wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:33:35PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:10 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk <
> > ccta
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:58:46AM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
> Haven't given up on DIBOL. May try installing the RT-11 version and
> see if it runs.
>
> But now another language of interest has reared its ugly head. :-)
>
> Anybody have an image of the tape for APL-11? Manual
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:33:35PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:10 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk
> wrote:
>
...
>
> He was lucky the card deck was in order. One of my first jobs was to read
> in old, horrible FORTRAN IV from punch card, then check it again
s 95th birthday last year and
> we often have fun talking about the good old days!
Nice!
>
> cheers,
>
> Nigel Johnson
>
>
> On 29/03/2020 16:59, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:47:51AM +1300, Brendan McNeill via cctech wrote:
> >
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:47:51AM +1300, Brendan McNeill via cctech wrote:
> Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending more
> time on our computers, if that were possible. I have just completed the
> restoration of a PDP-8 Straight 8 which I believe is the only one
rather late in the game, an attempt to gain some recognition for
> > a dying project. As "Telidon", it had begun years earlier.
Yes hence most people referred to it as Telidon. It was a cool idea
but the Internet and HTML killed it good and proper.
> >
>
> --
> Nigel Johnson
> MSc., MIEEE
> VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
>
> Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
Why yes. And the original maker movement!
73 Diane Bruce, VA3DB
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On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:14:53PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote:
> It was called teletext despite the implications, at least here in
> Canada. People just couldn't get their tongue around NAPLPS!
More widely known as Telidon despite it being called NAPLPS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 07:43:34AM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> search for NDRO and thin film memory
> Univac used it in their commercial and military computers
>
> On 10/20/19 7:35 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
> > I was just listening to a video on the Voyager space craft. It used an
> >
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 10:45:27AM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote:
> I remember an IBM engineer talking about this at our ham radio club. The
de VA3DB
> wire was coiled inside a drum and pulses were sent down the wire. The
> 'read head' was a magnetic pickup at the other end of the coi
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 10:57:25AM -0500, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
> On 09/29/2019 11:46 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
> > Well I said no more computers I can't lift, but exotic systems keep
> > finding me. So today we pulled a Tandem CLX out of a basement, along
> > with a few boxes of docs, 9
Anyone collect these clunkers?
Toshiba T6400DX
Diane
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On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 11:12:27AM -0400, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote:
> Seeing as I do not have an ATARI 520 or 1040 any more I have some
> Atari related stuff to give away as one bundle. It's a PITA enough
> to package for me.
>
> Bundle is (roughly)
> Atari VHS tape
I had planned on using this as a case for a project but then
I noticed it still seems complete etc. and one of you lot *might*
be interested. It's a blue metal steel box
30cm x 24cm x 6.4cm (I'll let you heathens work out Freedom units yourself)
NWW Micro Systems on front panel marked Serial Remo
Seeing as I do not have an ATARI 520 or 1040 any more I have some
Atari related stuff to give away as one bundle. It's a PITA enough
to package for me.
Bundle is (roughly)
Atari VHS tape 520 ST Instruction tape
Flight simulator II
pair of games (one of the disks is damaged :-( )
and Mark Williams
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 05:09:13PM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
> > · SMTP(S)
>
> FTP was used before SMTP existed.
yep ;)
>
> De
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On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 03:05:32PM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> Here's pot stirrer for a holiday Friday afternoon:
>
> How many different protocols / methods can we collectively come up with
> for how email can be transferred?
>
> I'm primarily thinking about between servers (MTA-to-M
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 06:22:03PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 07:19:53AM -0400, Diane Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 03:57:04AM +0200, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> [...]
> > >
> > > 158.36.191.230 gunkies.org www.gunkies.org
&g
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 03:57:04AM +0200, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 08:21:39PM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > > From: Diane Bruce
> >
> > > Works fine.
> >
> > Probably a left-over cached entry;
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 07:40:17PM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Tomasz Rola
>
> > Is it really down? Could it come back?
>
> Tore forgot to pay the bill for his DNS entry; this is the third year in a row
> the exact same thing has happened, on the exact same date! :-) :
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 07:02:42AM -0500, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
> At 04:15 AM 6/28/2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> > I don't even know if a half a dollar is a note or a coin, and
> >that's without getting extra-pedantic and pointing out that about a
> >dozen countries call their curren
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 01:20:17PM -0700, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
> Anyone know what 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor
> ROM, as shown in the AIM-65 Monitor Program Listing manual, document
> number 29650N36L ?
I'd not be surprised if it was the ROM version of the assemble
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 02:29:47PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 01/08/2019 02:09 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> > Its actually funny. The password given is three yahoo (groups) hacks
> > ago (about 10 years) but the email address used was a public one way
> > reflector (arrl.net).
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 02:37:44PM -0500, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> > On Jan 2, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > On 1/2/19 10:44 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
> >
> >> Also, recall that there are different forms of micro-code: horizontal
> >> and vertical.
On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 07:02:18AM -0500, Paul Birkel via cctech wrote:
> https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/dunlap.3/humor/instruction.set.html
>
HCF is listed there but the original instruction on the 6800
was thought to be included by the designers for hardware testing.
See:
http://www.liquisearc
I am tossing a pile of old PC keyboards but found one SUN type C keyboard.
It's missing a few keys :-( but might interest anyone needing spare parts.
Missing
Find/Cut left keypad
"."/Suppr on right keypad
"c" key is missing
one foot is missing
I'll ship if you pay postage.
- Diane
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- d...@fre
I rescued a pile of DAT and a drive from scrap locally. I have no use for it.
I'd rather not ship :-( but I am two hours drive from Montreal 4.5-5 hours from
Toronto here in Ottawa. Anyone want this box?
Diane
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Up for grabs free for postage, 1971 version.
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:14:56PM -0400, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> OK I am sorry I do not understand why the keyboard went this high?
>
>
...
>
> cctalk wrote:
> > Here is a great example of why the keyboards and terminals are getting
> > separated
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/IB
Free for cost of postage
- Digital microcomputer interfaces handbook (dated 1980)
"Hamilton Avnet" sticker on cover
- Intel iAPX 286 Programmer's Refernce Manual
- Motorola RF Data Manual (1980)
- Atmel Data Manual (1989)
- Intel ISIS-II USER'S GUIDE Copyright 1976, 1977, 1978
As you can imagin
It has a red tag on it saying it is DOA date 23/May 79
and an obviously poorly removed chip. Anyone want it?
For postage it's yours.
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On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 12:24:47PM -0700, tim lindner via cctalk wrote:
> Does anyone have source to a 6809 monitor program?
>
> I'm looking for something I can make work in a CoCo.
>
> Functionality I'm looking for is something that will let me read and
> write to memory.
I have a copy of psymo
I found over a full box of fan fold paper for an MX-80
that was hiding all these years. It's here in Ottawa Canada so
if you want it and can arrange pick up it's yours. Otherwise it's
scrap paper. This isn't worth the shipping!
Diane
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- d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db
;Lx6"Wx11"L each
>
> Thanks
> --Tammy
>
>
> On 7/25/18 1:56 PM, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote:
> > I have two Livingston PM-11's (http://portmasters.com/faq.html) and I
> > haven't needed
> > either of these in a long time. Is anyone interest
I will send these out free for cost of shipping.
These two really should go to people who *own* the machines covered.
VAX11/780 Hardware Handbook 1978(!)
PDP11/45 processor handbook 1971(!)
IBM DOS Technical Reference (the 3 ring binder + box)
Greenleaf Software Comm Library (3 ring binder + box
I have two Livingston PM-11's (http://portmasters.com/faq.html) and I haven't
needed
either of these in a long time. Is anyone interested in them?
Diane
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 03:05:56PM -0400, Santo Nucifora wrote:
> Hi All,
Santo was first by about 12 minutes according to my mail logs.
> Diane was gracious enough to accept my request for the disks and
> documentation. I will certainly make images of the disks if they are
> readable and will c
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:24:18PM -0400, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote:
> I've discovered a SuperBrain manual and two floppy disks in my basement.
> Anyone want them? Free to a good home.
It has been spoken for and now I feel bad now that I don't have more to give
away
to every
I've discovered a SuperBrain manual and two floppy disks in my basement.
Anyone want them? Free to a good home.
Diane
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 07:16:58AM -0500, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:45:07PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> > Looks pretty much like standard C until you get into the minutiae, such
> > as "A character constant is 1 to 4 characters" and page 4-4 "Data Types"
On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 12:45:10PM -, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > A very interesting story in this radar history is how the Dutch managed to
> > rescue the EF50 tube, essential for these early radar receivers, to England
> > just hours before the Germans invaded holland.
I heard this
I just stumbled over this page this morning. Wow.
Fascinating story!
http://ferut.ca/my-story/
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On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:33:47PM +, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> Do they also guarantee there will be a device capable of reading it
> in 1000 years?
It was bad enough with the BBC Domesday project.
Paper. Paper is the only way.
acid free paper.
>
> bill
>
> __
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 01:12:03PM -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>
> > On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > Was looking at the digital repeater modes this morning
> > http://www.mikemyers.me/blog/2016/2/19/d-star-dmr-fusion-which-is-right-for-you
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 09:32:38AM -0500, Jay West via cctalk wrote:
> Us lowly technician license holders would love to participate :)
Hey there is always DMR or something. de VA3DB
>
> J/KE0FJW
>
>
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On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 08:13:51AM -0500, js--- via cctalk wrote:
...
> Maybe you don't, but I sure worry about fluorescents AND CFLS's breaking.
> Although the document you link to is specific for businesses in just
> 4 states, the entire document IS concerned with the hazard these bulbs
> are.
I
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:20:34AM -0400, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote:
> > And if you break one you have to call HAZMAT. You did realize that,
> > didn't you? They contain mercury and any breakage requires professional
> > remediation by law!!
>
> Please quit spreading this urban legend. Som
I found an Epson MX-80 in my pile of junque. I'd rather not ship but
Ottawa, Montreal or Toronto are all possible. Otherwise, out to
recycle.
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I've always said a bad programmer can write bad code in any language.
That said, language features that help a good programmer write better code
go a long way.
- Diane
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 08:04:22AM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Rod Smallwood
>
> > All computer com
On Sun, Apr 02, 2017 at 10:40:40AM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 04/02/2017 07:53 AM, Diane Bruce wrote:
>
> > Read this:
> >
> > https://nepp.nasa.gov/whisker/reference/tech_papers/2011-nasa-gsfc-whisker-failure-app-sensor.pdf
>
> There are problems wi
On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 06:59:54PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 04/01/2017 07:01 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>
> >
> > Before building my most recent project (which involves an
> > unpleasantly small-pitched TSOP package housing multiple RS232 level
> > converters) I asked expe
Wow from 2013
> I've put together a small box of old TTL books, computer references
> of all sorts that I simply do not want anymore. If someone really
> wants to collect old databooks instead of me sending this stuff out
> to pulp let me know. It would be easiest if someone local to me here
>
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 09:01:21PM -0500, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> > On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jan 2017, Nico de Jong wrote:
> >
> >> I did some research, and the most reasonable outcome was that it was not
> >> possible by normal means, because som
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 07:36:19AM -0800, Charles Anthony wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>
> > > > Thanks for the suggestion. My delivery was set to MIME, I have changed
> > it
> > > > to plain text. Hopefully that will solve the problem.
> > >
> > > What? No form
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:24:50AM -0600, Norman Jaffe wrote:
> Hi:
>
As a local to Ottawa this piqued my curiosity.
I found this
http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Electronics-Today/70s/Electronics-Today-1979-11.pdf
Video Terminal
The Cybernex APL -100 terminal fea-
tures true over
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 03:31:42PM -0300, Paul Berger wrote:
> On 2016-05-26 2:32 PM, Diane Bruce wrote:
...
> >
> > http://www.iaea.org/inis/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/01/000/186.pdf
> >
> >
> Yeah the Bruce plant used to run on PDP-8s, a friend of
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 06:19:51PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>
> On 26/05/2016 17:48, Fred Cisin wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 May 2016, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> >> A friend notice this in the news, I heard it mentioned on the radio
> >> this morning too:
> >> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 09:17:53AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > From: Erik Baigar
>
> > very interesting reading
>
> If you want to see a great example of why it was important, check out the
> so-called 'Berlin Tunnel':
I remember working in a TEMPEST room up here in Ottawa (CDC Canada
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 05:07:08PM -0400, Mouse wrote:
> > In support of this, Iâ??d encourage everyone who works with C to read Chris
> > $
>
> > http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-know.html
> > http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-know_14.
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:28:35PM -0700, Chris Hanson wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Diane Bruce wrote:
> >
> > We cannot use the same outdated ideas we used to use for 'C'
> > that we used 40 years ago today. Compilers have improved.
> > Know y
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:53:40AM -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Diane Bruce wrote:
> > Now on that we furiously agree. One problem has been getting that through
> > to people who insist that C is still a high level assembler and has
> > not
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:55:35PM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> Those who claim that there's not much difference between C and assembly
> language have never run into a true CISC machine--or perhaps they rely
> only on libraries someone else has written.
Now wait a minute here. C is a very old lang
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 01:36:29PM -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
> On 4/29/16 1:34 PM, ben wrote:
>
> >> The problem is that C doesn't just allow you to do stupid things, it's
> >> actively encouraged. C doesn't just let you aim at your foot, it
> >> defaults to aiming at your foot.
> >>
> > I lik
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 02:23:55PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ian S. King wrote:
> > C is a lot like that saw - it doesn't have a lot of guards on it, and you
> > can do stupid things.
>
> The problem is that C doesn't just allow you to do stupid things, it's
> a
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 01:49:11PM -0400, Mouse wrote:
> >> True, but again, *you shouldn't have to*. It means programmer
> >> effort, brain power, is being wasted on thinking about being safe
> >> instead of spent on writing better programs.
>
> True, but...
>
> > One side effect of this is that
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 01:19:34PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > From: Diane Bruce
>
> > PL/M wasn't bad either.
>
> I forgot about PL/M...
;)
>
> > Telephone companies preferred deterministic behaviour from their code
> > and opera
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:10:38PM -0400, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> > On Apr 29, 2016, at 3:01 PM, ben wrote:
> >
> > I liked Forth when it was still threaded.
>
> ???
>
> Base FORTH is not, in and of itself, threaded. PolyFORTH was if memory
> serves. Then again, creating a thread scheduler (
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 09:13:42PM +0200, Raymond Wiker wrote:
>
> > On 29 Apr 2016, at 21:10 , Paul Koning wrote:
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> >
> >> On Apr 29, 2016, at 3:01 PM, ben wrote:
> >>
> >> I liked Forth when it was still threaded.
> >
> > ???
> >
> > Base FORTH is not, in and of itself, threaded. Pol
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:51:12PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 29 April 2016 at 15:09, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > > From: Swift Griggs
> >
...
> >> C is popular because C is popular.
> >
> > Yes, but that had to start somewhere.
> >
> > I think it _became_ popular for two reasons: i) it wa
On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 11:55:50AM -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
> Out of curiosity, has anyone ever gotten Eric Smith's tumble pdf
> creation program running under any version of BSD?
>
> I ran into a problem porting it to OS X, in the way it used rewind()
> and was wondering if anyone else ran into t
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 04:47:33PM -0700, ben wrote:
> On 12/16/2015 1:29 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
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> > So you can definitely do lots of useful stuff without a screen,
Old thread, but I remember writing a tic-tac-toe program for the 1401
using the sense switches and lights. Does that count as a dis
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 06:51:18PM +, ANDY HOLT wrote:
> > I remember hacking the computed goto in the Fortran so it would
> > execute my own entered assembler. That was fun. ;)
>
> Interesting - it was a more normal hack to abuse the assigned goto -
> in most implementations* the variable
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:15:18AM +, P Gebhardt wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> spotted this video recently on youtube:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzDSOXHd70
>
> It's a Xerox Digital Systems mainframe! Wow, I didn't know that such
> installations were still running as of 1997!
>
> The
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 09:52:24AM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 10/30/2015 09:35 AM, Diane Bruce wrote:
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> > Joe still loves his Fortran. In fact, many Scientist/Engineers seem
> > to still use Fortran.
> >
> > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/i
>
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 09:01:38AM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 10/30/2015 02:29 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> > «Why NASA Needs a Programmer Fluent In 60-Year-Old Languages
>
> I think the demise of FORTRAN is overstated. That there is an X3 group
> still advancing the language attests to that. W
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 08:58:58AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-10-24 00:22, ANDY HOLT wrote:
> >
> > Don't get me wrong... Emacs isn't a bad OS... Too bad there isn't a decent
> > text editor for it.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> >
> >
> > Ah,
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:22:42PM +, ANDY HOLT wrote:
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> Don't get me wrong... Emacs isn't a bad OS... Too bad there isn't a decent
> text editor for it.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> Ah, but nowadays who cares about
> "Eight Megabytes and Continua
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 02:37:08PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > From: Ben Franchuk
>
> > Did advent run under PDP11 unix?
>
> There was a version on the V6 PDP11 Unix at MIT; not sure if that was a local
> port, or one we picked up from somewhere else.
There was a hack for PDP11 Unix w
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 04:35:24PM -0400, Paul Koning wrote:
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> > On Sep 22, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Diane Bruce wrote:
> >
> >> ...
> >>> But back in the 60's, every manufacturer had its own variety of FORTRAN,
> >>> including (IIRC), UNIVA
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 01:07:14PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> > what an F77 programmer might recognize as FORTRAN.
>
> Wouldn't an F77 programmer be looking for Fortran, not FORTRAN?
>
> > But back in the 60's, every manufacturer had its own variety of FO
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 01:33:05PM +, tony duell wrote:
> >
> > > Are there any computers that do let you put microcode into RAM
> > > now-days.
> >
> > "Now-days"? There are some that do that, some of which are still in
> > operational shape. Some VAXen, in particular, have something calle
On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 11:29:37PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 11:30:31PM -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> > I had that experience going to Ottawa via a small crossing in upstate
> > NY.
>
> In fact that is probably the exact one I had the 2hr experience at :-)
>
> mcl
>
Whi
>
> A real Area 51 link. - US UFO's
> http://astronautix.com/craft/pyeacket.htm
> I was looking for
> Deepcold: Secrets of the Cold War in Space, 1959-1969
> but alas the web site has vanished from the face of the Earth.
> Ben.
>
Try
https://web.archive.org/web/20120616210332/http://www.deepcol
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 12:33:33PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
> >> I suppose that bad sector maps for ST506/412 hard drives don't count? :-)
Once upon a time, it was the job of the OS to take this badblock count
and remap blocks itself since the drives themselves weren't smart enough.
>
> On Mon,
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