[cctalk] Re: Another 780 backplane story

2025-07-04 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 05/07/2025 01:08, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2025-07-04 4:15 p.m., Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Yeah, this was 1978. What we used to spend on IT stuff back then is really amazing. So much! True, but you got field service, not some AI telling you read web page xxx, with a dead computer. But I

[cctalk] Re: VAX 86x0 schematics

2025-07-04 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 03/07/2025 20:52, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Jul 3, 2025, at 2:26 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: That’s a good business practice anyway. You want your high price system up and running as fast as possible, so not having to do more than cursory diagnostics is a good thing I think d

[cctalk] Re: VAX 86x0 schematics

2025-07-03 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 03/07/2025 19:00, cz via cctalk wrote: Same here. The FE came prepared with a replacement board. Never repaired the board. In and out! Well the Honeywell 6000 & Level 66 series machines https://gunkies.org/wiki/Honeywell_6000_series came with a board tester which was supposed to iden

[cctalk] Re: eBay strikes again!!

2025-06-21 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 20/06/2025 21:52, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: I'm always puzzled by "local only" offers. It's expected that shipping costs get added, but why would a seller make a decision that shipping is "too expensive"? Logically the buyer should decide that, and if the buyer will pay the shipping

[cctalk] Re: 3 VCF's this weekend! Atlanta, Dallas, Australia

2025-06-21 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 20/06/2025 23:34, jake utley via cctalk wrote: :Do we ever have one in the UK ? I think the nearest thing I've seen recently is the retro festival at the Cambridge CCH museum. TNMoC of course has excellent fixed exhibits but I don't think it's had guests for a long while. VCF UK 2026 has

[cctalk] Re: eBay strikes again!!

2025-06-20 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 20/06/2025 18:44, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: People can ask what ever they want on ebay, if you want to see what people are actually paying search completed auctions. Yes, but E-Bay suggests a price... I can ask $10,000 for a penny but that doesn't mean that anyone will pay it. On 6

[cctalk] Re: Skype

2025-05-13 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 13/05/2025 17:01, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: So many won't miss it, but for those of us who used it to call real numbers, there is nothing comparable to replace it. With the gradual demise of the POTS and mobile/cell handsets switching to VoIP that won't be an issue soon (or rather

[cctalk] Re: Skype

2025-05-13 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 13/05/2025 00:58, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: It's just another case of how long should a company maintain older infrastructure in the face of new technologies and systems. The conversion to Teams was relatively painless so it's not much of a big deal for many. There are also many alte

[cctalk] Re: Looking for ASR-33 Roll Paper and Paper Tape

2025-05-09 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 09/05/2025 02:47, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: On 9/05/2025 10:48 am, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: I will soon receive an ASR-33 and I will need roll paper, 1" rolled (preferably oiled) paper tape and a ribbon or two. Please DM me if you have any to spare. Paper is easy enough - its

[cctalk] Re: Wang TTL BASIC

2025-05-05 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 05/05/2025 14:47, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Sun, 4 May 2025, Chuck Guzis wrote: Various earlier systems used microprogram-like techniques, but I don't know how many were earlier than PB in their use of the word. I think "Microprogramming" as a technique has been around as long

[cctalk] Re: Elliott Algol

2025-02-16 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 16/02/2025 20:51, paul.kimpel--- via cctalk wrote: I don't understand -- ASCII had only two versions, 1963 and 1967, and both had square brackets. The IBM PC used ASCII, but had nothing to do with its standardization. I can't find the context for this, but it was early EBCDIC devices whic

[cctalk] Re: Open source a panacea?

2025-02-04 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 03/02/2025 23:54, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2025-02-03 3:52 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: You miss my tongue-in-cheek observation. iPhone software isn't, to bhe best of my knowledge, open-source.  How does one know or determine that there's not malware in vendor-supplied software?

[cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now

2025-02-02 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 02/02/2025 07:29, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 10:54 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: IBM used a DB25 socket for their printer port at the computer end, (male on the card for serial, female on the card for parallel "Centronics") THAT, of course caused some idiots t

[cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now

2025-01-31 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 31/01/2025 11:56, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2025-01-31 4:25 a.m., Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: A couple of points you might like to consider, which you may already know but stuff you've said above doesn't spell it out: RS232 is not serial - make yourself clear. Before RS232 the same

[cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now

2025-01-31 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 31/01/2025 08:20, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: Hey all! So, I've found myself studying up on RS-232 this year for a few reasons. I'm mulling over doing an RS232 themed talk at June VCF. Not a super exciting topic, but I do think that RS232 has an interesting history: In the SAGE relati

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-21 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 21/01/2025 22:59, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: On 01/21/2025 5:52 PM EST Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: An increase in acceleration (third derivative positive) would account for increased gravity. :-) Geez! All this pseudo science! All ya gotta do is follow the REAL science! Of cours

[cctalk] Fwd: Fwd: SBC6128

2025-01-15 Thread David Wade via cctalk
More pics of other bits added to my one drive Dave (Sorry if this is a bit of a mess. Some messages got lost in my spam folder) Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [cctalk] Fwd: SBC6128 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:32:33 + From: David Wade To: Doug Jackson via cc

[cctalk] Re: Fwd: SBC6128

2025-01-15 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 14/01/2025 22:13, Doug Jackson wrote: Hi Dave, That's exactly what I remembered - *infinite* storage across many volumes :-) That enclosure looks practical as well. - Whats the PSU? Fortunately the UK and Aus have the same power 230V (ish). Given the level of completeness, I would be

[cctalk] Re: 3174 - Was Re: Try Algol 68 on Windowsnn

2025-01-14 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 14/01/2025 20:54, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: On 14/01/2025 16:28, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 1/14/25 03:50, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2025-01-13 6:55 p.m., Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk wrote: I would expect universal condemnation for anyone who would ask if FLACC were des

[cctalk] Re: Fwd: SBC6128

2025-01-14 Thread David Wade via cctalk
Doug, Well I fished out the SBC + IOB and tested it. It actually boots from both IDE disk and CF card. I made a few pictures and video and stuck them on my one drive... https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ag4BJfE5B3onoNli9TZ4C4GMmhTJbg?e=wUThV9 I need to dig a little deeper for the board and bits, but I only

[cctalk] Re: Fwd: SBC6128

2025-01-14 Thread David Wade via cctalk
Doug, it did indeed drop into Spam. Let me take some pics first. Dave On 14/01/2025 12:26, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: Hi Dave, I'll send this to the group, I suspect my email made it into your spam. Doug -- Forwarded message - From: Doug Jackson Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025, 6:

[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

2025-01-14 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 13/01/2025 23:29, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2025-01-13 4:00 p.m., David Wade via cctalk wrote: More like not enough actual memory. You can fit an acceptable basic into a 4K ROM so it will work without a disk drive. Its an interpreter so can do checks as you type it in. Its far easier

[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

2025-01-13 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 13/01/2025 22:19, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 1/13/2025 3:57 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2025-01-13 12:18 p.m., Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: Funny when the 8 and 16 bit micros hit the market, Algol seemed to vanish off the face of the earth. Was 64KB too small a address

[cctalk] Re: Spare Time Gizmos SBC6128 PDP8 board

2025-01-13 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 13/01/2025 07:01, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: Hi everybody, I used to own a SBC6128 which I built from Spare Time Gizmo's. It was a PDP8 on a chip, using a Harris 6128 PDP8 on a chip. It featured a serial port and an IDE disk interface. It was a heap of fun to use and recreated quite

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-11 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 11/12/2024 07:04, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: Haven't the really big machines been virtualise under a specialised version of Linux. I recall Andrew Tridgal working for IBM 15 years ago porting it to their Z series. Whilst Linux runs on Z its either in a virtual machine created by zVM o

[cctalk] Re: VT-100 Text Windows library

2024-12-11 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 10/12/2024 07:13, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: If this were my project, I would read the VT100 manual and design and implement a serial driver and basic text window library from scratch running on the bare hardware. It wouldn't be more than 1000 lines of C, more likely something like 500 li

[cctalk] Re: Old mainframe humor

2024-12-11 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 10/12/2024 23:59, Donald Whittemore via cctalk wrote: NEAT/3 instructions www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/neat3.pdf Misc instructions www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/pl-o.pdf Misc Assembler www.myimagecollection.com/webdocs/miscassembler.pdf IBM beginnings www.myimagecollection.com/w

[cctalk] Re: Cleaning Card Punch

2024-12-07 Thread David Wade via cctalk
t 1:01 PM, David Wade via cctalk wrote:  On 04/12/2024 18:49, Tony Duell wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 6:41 PM David Wade via cctalk wrote: Folks, I have been trying to restore a manual card punch. The type with 12 "Buttons" or "Plungers" that operate a lever which pushes a pu

[cctalk] Re: Cleaning Card Punch

2024-12-04 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 04/12/2024 18:49, Tony Duell wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 6:41 PM David Wade via cctalk wrote: Folks, I have been trying to restore a manual card punch. The type with 12 "Buttons" or "Plungers" that operate a lever which pushes a punch "pin" through a die t

[cctalk] Cleaning Card Punch

2024-12-03 Thread David Wade via cctalk
Folks, I have been trying to restore a manual card punch. The type with 12 "Buttons" or "Plungers" that operate a lever which pushes a punch "pin" through a die to create a hole in a card. Its almost identical to this one:- https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/38019/ICL-Hand-Key-Punch-Card-

[cctalk] Re: Might be antique computer parts

2024-10-02 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 02/10/2024 16:01, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 10/2/24 09:11, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Oct 1, 2024, at 8:06 PM, donald donaldwhittemore.com via cctalk wrote: I rue the day I lost an eBay auction. It was a PR photo with a good looking model mounting a disk in an open drawer o

[cctalk] Re: Fwd: Civility; Was Re: Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-18 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 17/07/2024 20:15, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: The number of UK museums seem to be growing. Perhaps some of the newer ones are not yet full. I think the large Science Museums are pretty well off but the smaller ones may be more flexible. Of course, they are also in greater danger of fadin

[cctalk] Re: Fwd: Civility; Was Re: Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-16 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 16/07/2024 18:49, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: I think the key to preservation is assuring next of kin that the items in our possession have value, and are worth seeking out future custodians. There's a lot of stuff in private collections that can bring in great sums of money if only thos

[cctalk] Re: Double Density 3.5" Floppy Disks

2024-05-01 Thread David Wade via cctalk
On 01/05/2024 00:27, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: Thank you. My goal is not to use HD floppies on a drive not designed for them. I saw some on ebay and amazon but I thought I would try here to see if anybody had some they don't need.  I would help keep them out of the trash. I have lots, b

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

2024-03-23 Thread David Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 3:24 PM > To: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > Cc: Bill Gunshannon > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again > > > > On 3/23/2024 11:16 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > > > > Here's somet

[cctalk] Re: Unused Punched Cards

2022-08-13 Thread David Wade via cctalk
Are they really Punch cards? Could the be for a Selectric Mag Card device They use a mylar card the same size a a punch card. Dave > -Original Message- > From: Mike Norris via cctalk > Sent: 13 August 2022 12:55 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Cc: Mike Norris > Subject: [cctalk] Unused Pun

[cctalk] Re: Posts Blocked

2022-08-02 Thread David Wade via cctalk
I have had to switch from gmail to outlook. Gmail won't send because its on the SORBS list Dave > -Original Message- > From: Ali via cctalk > Sent: 02 August 2022 18:40 > To: CCTalk Mailing List > Cc: Ali > Subject: [cctalk] Posts Blocked > > Hello All, > > Since the new hosting has

[cctalk] Re: Connecting a physical terminal via LAN to Serial Port

2022-08-02 Thread David Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Ali via cctalk > Sent: 31 July 2022 06:51 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Cc: Ali > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Connecting a physical terminal via LAN to Serial Port > > > I feel like a Raspberry Pi or similar would fit the bill for th

VCF Europe

2017-03-16 Thread David Wade via cctalk
Folks, Rod has spurred me on to pay a visit to VCF Europe. I wonder if any one else on the list is going. If so any thoughts on Hotels? I will probably only manage the Saturday! Dave