[cctalk] Re: PDP8 @ 50

2024-04-20 Thread ben via cctalk
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[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-04-20 8:33 p.m., Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: For anything more sophisticated than your coffee pot the RP2040 from Raspberry Pie is a fantastic little chip, dual core 133 MHz Cortex M0+ with 8 PIO engines, 264K of RAM, ADC, UART, SPI, I2C all for under a dollar.  I designed a fully funct

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
For anything more sophisticated than your coffee pot the RP2040 from Raspberry Pie is a fantastic little chip, dual core 133 MHz Cortex M0+ with 8 PIO engines, 264K of RAM, ADC, UART, SPI, I2C all for under a dollar.  I designed a fully functional RP2040 with 16 Mb flash for under $2.00.  In la

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Doc Shipley via cctalk
On 4/20/24 13:16, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Who still uses the Z80 line for new projects? Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to just use an Arduino or Raspberry Pi? I dissected a dead coffee maker last week that has a current-design 8051 clone running the control board. Well-known instructio

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-04-20 12:20 p.m., Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: On 4/20/2024 1:16 PM, Wayne S wrote: Who still uses the Z80 line for new projects? Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to just use an Arduino or Raspberry Pi? Given the list you're posting on... :-) Jim True, but the Z80 is 5 volt logic. St

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Good point but i’m not an trained EE, just a hobbyist so i’m just curious. I buy Z80’s and other’s for repair projects but … Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2024, at 11:20, Jim Brain wrote: > > On 4/20/2024 1:16 PM, Wayne S wrote: >> Who still uses the Z80 line for new projects? Wouldn’t it

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 4/20/2024 1:16 PM, Wayne S wrote: Who still uses the Z80 line for new projects? Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to just use an Arduino or Raspberry Pi? Given the list you're posting on... :-) Jim

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Who still uses the Z80 line for new projects? Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to just use an Arduino or Raspberry Pi? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2024, at 10:54, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > > to

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 4/20/2024 9:55 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 4/19/24 21:07, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Gee! Have sales gone down? One more reason to use the 8080 subset when writing CP/M programs. Aren't there already some licensed second sources? Harris also made an all-CMOS plug-compatible Z-80.

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/20/24 01:37, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > There's this thing called "inflation", which does tend to become somewhat > significant after four decades. > > In the mid-80s, a pint of beer cost about 70 pence. I've escaped that > benighted island, but according to friends who were not so lu

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 4/19/24 21:07, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Gee! Have sales gone down? One more reason to use the 8080 subset when writing CP/M programs. Aren't there already some licensed second sources? Harris also made an all-CMOS plug-compatible Z-80.  I used it in a low-power project. Jon

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 4/19/24 20:57, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: As it is now, running z80 production must no longer be profitable for Zilog, but some other manufacturer can license z80 production. Right? If there is a demand someone will produce them Rochester Electronics might buy up the masks and uncut

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2024-04-20 04:37, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: Unless people start panic-buying them, Z80 chips are likely to languish in Mouser etc's warehouses for years. After all, Zilog wouldn't stop production of something in high demand. They will be still at Mouser/DigiKey for a while, then be mo

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 09:34:42PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 4/19/24 19:39, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] >> Now is a good time to stock up for any z80 projects or repair, while they >> are $10 or less on epay. Unless people start panic-buying them, Z80 chips are likely to languish i