[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

2023-04-18 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
In a similar shenanigans vein, I've no explanation for the $20k+ IBM 5120's being listed.I think one of them has been listed as such for over a year now. - Steve v* On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 9:09 AM Sellam Abraham via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:59 AM Tom

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 11:04 PM John Robertson via cctalk wrote: > > I like to start with schematics before poking too much... So do I. > > I assume bad caps (will replace with low-ESR high temp), and possibly > blown transistor(s)... > > *And Gregory Beat sent me a link that covers the 1001 S

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 2:37 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > ... or four $20 power transistors to protect a 10 cent fuse like on the DEC > VR-14 display. In general the transistor(s) will fail short-circuit, thus taking out the fuse too. Some switch-mode power supplies use special fast-actin

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/18/23 18:37, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > ... or four $20 power transistors to protect a 10 cent fuse like on the DEC > VR-14 display. A friend who worked as a DEC CE decades ago, said that "transistor-protected fuses" was a standing joke among that community. --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
... or four $20 power transistors to protect a 10 cent fuse like on the DEC VR-14 display. Tom On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, 6:16 am Fred Cisin via cctalk, wrote: > On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote: > > The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. > > The replacement will probably

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 3:16 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote: > > The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. > > The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the > > root cause. > > Isn't there usually a larger, m

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote: The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the root cause. Isn't there usually a larger, more critical component, such as a proprietary microprocessor, to blow out to

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:51 PM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the root cause. As soon as I saw 'Boschert' mental alarm bell

[cctalk] Re: Delivery woes

2023-04-18 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Mail lists are harder to manage, and why forums and social media have supplanted them. I have brought this same subject up before, but not everyone seems to be interested in or has access to manage their DNS this way in a practical manner. I throw this back at the CPANELs and such of the world to

[cctalk] Delivery woes

2023-04-18 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
Folks, As I try to track down why various subscribers are getting booted from the list in the last couple of days, I'm noticing that a number of you are subscribed from an address that forwards elsewhere. This works poorly. TL;DR follows, but basically this is brought to you by the fact that mod

[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos

2023-04-18 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
It shouldn't be "part of the experience". It's poor planning and poor management of the consignment area on the part of the organizers. This same thing happened at VCF "West" last year and it was a catastrophe. There was a line snaking down the hallway at least a fifty people deep and they were

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/18/23 09:40, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:51 PM Tom Hunter via cctalk > wrote: >> >> The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. >> The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the >> root cause. > > > As soon as I saw 'Bosc

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:51 PM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. > The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the > root cause. As soon as I saw 'Boschert' mental alarm bells triggered Boschert made a parti

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Royce Taft via cctalk
I’ve found that following traces and identifying components that connect to either side of the failed resistor is usually a good start for finding root cause. Shorted power transistors, diodes, or portions of bridge rectifiers have been the root cause of cascading failures in my cases. -Royce

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

2023-04-18 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:59 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > The Ebay listing hasn't sold but has been relisted at the same price. > Indeed, it appears to be: https://www.ebay.com/itm/225514573805 Non-paying "buyer"? Or shenanigans? Sellam >

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

2023-04-18 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
The Ebay listing hasn't sold but has been relisted at the same price. On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:16 AM John Robertson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2023/04/17 9:12 a.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > My initial reaction is that $2,000 seems a "bit" optimistic. > > > > Th

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the root cause. On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:20 AM John Robertson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I've checked bitsavers.org (Al does a great job!), and a num

[cctalk] AT&T Customer Service

2023-04-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Fred Cisin wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, AT&T Customer Service via cctalk wrote: Sorry, I forgot to post the location.  I'm in Kent, Washington. USA.  disregard the AT&T customer service.  Have E-mails in to them. not sure what going on there, but its at&tso anything is possible. With a user na