[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/22/22 22:56, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2022-09-22 11:30 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 9/22/22 21:49, Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote: I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. I recall all of the IBM 1620 front panels in "The Forbin Project", along with

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2022-09-22 11:30 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 9/22/22 21:49, Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote: I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. I recall all of the IBM 1620 front panels in "The Forbin Project", along with CDC 3000 series (green glass) cabinets. In

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2022-09-22 10:49 p.m., Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote: I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. Anyway you can't really complain unless you know the origins of those front panels. Some of that equipment was scrapped a long time ago and somebody found the front pane

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/22/22 21:49, Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote: > I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. I recall all of the IBM 1620 front panels in "The Forbin Project", along with CDC 3000 series (green glass) cabinets. In fact, I recently pointed out to James at starringthecompu

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk
I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. Anyway you can't really complain unless you know the origins of those front panels. Some of that equipment was scrapped a long time ago and somebody found the front panel or other parts cool and kept them. You can't really e

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2022-09-22 8:44 p.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail them to their man cave or living room wall. These same types of people vacuum up core memory boards, keyboar

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
LOL I've got a B2700 front panel & console; I doubt that there are many 2700s out there complete except for the front panel but if you do have one send me a note ;-) m On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 11:31 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 11:17 PM jim st

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Cut a hole in the wall. Mount the front panel on the wall, with the machine, still connected to it, on the other side of the wall. (like an ancient New Yorker cartoon, of an elephant head on the wall, with the rest of the elephant standing on the other side of the wall.) I had an ex, decade

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 11:17 PM jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 9/22/22 10:05, Peter Van Peborgh via cctalk wrote: > > I know this is sacrilege but I am looking for the front panel of a *Data > > General Nova *and/or *a DEC PDP 8/11/12/15*. > > Why? I collect artefa

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/22/22 10:05, Peter Van Peborgh via cctalk wrote: I know this is sacrilege but I am looking for the front panel of a *Data General Nova *and/or *a DEC PDP 8/11/12/15*. Why? I collect artefacts from the days of the minicomputer and earlier and I want them for my collection/display. They sho

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail them to their man cave or living room wall. These same types of people vacuum up core memory boards, keyboards, disk platters, 9-track tapes, etc just for bragging

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
True. I wound up giving away an HP1000 with front panel, because no one wanted it. So they do exist out there... C On 9/22/2022 3:42 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Look for less well-known mini computers. On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 1:47 PM Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: It is sacrelege! In

[cctalk] Re: 8" disk question!

2022-09-22 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 9/22/22 16:31, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2022, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: They didn't deal with it at all. It didn't work. No normal 8-inch floppy disks have both index holes in the jacket. If you convert a disk from SS to DS, or vice versa, by punching the other index ho

[cctalk] Re: 8" disk question!

2022-09-22 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
That's how Cromemco shipped their distribution disks, with both holes and a sticker to cover the unused hole with arrows on it to show which way was which. m On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 4:32 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2022, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > >>> They didn't deal

[cctalk] Re: 8" disk question!

2022-09-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Sep 2022, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: They didn't deal with it at all. It didn't work. No normal 8-inch floppy disks have both index holes in the jacket. If you convert a disk from SS to DS, or vice versa, by punching the other index hole in the jacket, you have to cover the origina

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Look for less well-known mini computers. On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 1:47 PM Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: > It is sacrelege! > > In all honesty, real front panels are expensive. An 11/40 front panel sold > recently on eBay for $2000! (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314122754771 < > https://www.ebay.co.uk

[cctalk] Re: 8" disk question!

2022-09-22 Thread Robin Downs via cctalk
Looking at the circuit of the Qume drive, it is certainly not designed to work with disks with both holes, I can only imagine that drives only expected disks to be one or the other when it was designed, but it could easily be modified with a three position On-Off-On switch to disable either inde

[cctalk] Re: 8" disk question!

2022-09-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/22/22 12:04, geneb via cctalk wrote: only one index sensor (typically an SS drive). > > I've got at least three boxes of NOS Dysan disks with both of those > index holes present, so they certainly were made commercially. Yup. I've got similar NOS ones also. --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: 7485 chip history??? (Solid State Music SB-1)

2022-09-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/22/22 09:55, John Robertson via cctalk wrote: > On 2022/09/19 9:51 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote: >> On 2022-09-19 10:18 p.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: >>> There are a few US based Ebay sellers of the 74L85. >>> >>> Tom >> But most ebay sellers, from the USA seem to sell a item for $6.00 and

[cctalk] Re: 8" disk question!

2022-09-22 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Sep 2022, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2022, 07:51 geneb via cctalk wrote: The question I have is how did a contemporary system deal with the combination of a disk with both index windows and a drive with both index sensors? They didn't deal with it at all. It did

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
It is sacrelege! In all honesty, real front panels are expensive. An 11/40 front panel sold recently on eBay for $2000! (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314122754771 ) They’re also hard to come by, and most that have them are going to be very reluctant to

[cctalk] Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Peter Van Peborgh via cctalk
I know this is sacrilege but I am looking for the front panel of a *Data General Nova *and/or *a DEC PDP 8/11/12/15*. Why? I collect artefacts from the days of the minicomputer and earlier and I want them for my collection/display. They should be not too damaged and of course do not need to be func

[cctalk] Re: 7485 chip history??? (Solid State Music SB-1)

2022-09-22 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
On 2022/09/19 9:51 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote: On 2022-09-19 10:18 p.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: There are a few US based Ebay sellers of the 74L85. Tom But most ebay sellers, from the USA seem to sell a item for $6.00 and $75 shipping to Canada. China $2 and $3 shipping. With Covid all

[cctalk] Re: 11/45 and 11/34 Taken!

2022-09-22 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 8:32 AM Kevin McQuiggin via cctalk wrote: > > Hi All: > > I’m pleased to report that my 11/45 and 11/34 which were in need of a new > home have been taken by another collector here in BC. They will be off to a > very good home! > Good news. I really didn't need to spend

[cctalk] Re: 11/45 and 11/34 Taken!

2022-09-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I bet! Finding a home would take all of 5 minutes on this list. "-) On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 11:32 AM Kevin McQuiggin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi All: > > I’m pleased to report that my 11/45 and 11/34 which were in need of a new > home have been taken by another collector here

[cctalk] Re: 11/45 and 11/34 Taken!

2022-09-22 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
No if only I had skipped my office meeting this morning! -- Anders On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 11:32 AM Kevin McQuiggin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi All: > > I’m pleased to report that my 11/45 and 11/34 which were in need of a new > home have been taken by another collector h

[cctalk] 11/45 and 11/34 Taken!

2022-09-22 Thread Kevin McQuiggin via cctalk
Hi All: I’m pleased to report that my 11/45 and 11/34 which were in need of a new home have been taken by another collector here in BC. They will be off to a very good home! Thanks for reading my post. Kevin

[cctalk] pdp-11/45 and pdp-11/34 Available - Free! (Vancouver, BC)

2022-09-22 Thread Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) via cctalk
Hi All: I’ve been a collector of old DEC systems for about 30 years. I haven’t been active on the list for the last decade or so due to work, but am “surfacing” now as my wife and I are moving and I need to find a good home for two of my systems and their peripherals. I can follow up with pho