PDP-11 Diagnostic Program Listings Micro Fiche Scans

2021-11-19 Thread Joerg Hoppe via cctalk
Hi Friends, Micro fiche scans of the PDP-11 XXDP listings are online now: http://files.retrocmp.com/fichescanner/bitsavers/pdf/dec/pdp11/microfiche/Diagnostic_Program_Listings/ You can insert this into your bitsaver mirror tree with $ cd $ wget --recursive --level 0 --no-host-directories --cut

Re: Ken Gielow passed away

2021-11-19 Thread Gregory Beat via cctalk
Ken Gielow sold his Z80DIS (Z80 disassembler) for CP/M 80 as shareware ($20) thru his Butler, PA firm (SLR Systems), until the end of the 1980s. I left Slippery Rock (just north of Butler) in the summer 1983 (about time of release). — Info World, October 24, 1983 Software Review by Steve Mann htt

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-19 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Michael Kerpan wrote: > (See the sad fate of the Living Computer Museum, which was killed by > its new owners as soon as COVID gave them an excuse to do so) It's not killed. It's still there, but not open to the public. They continue to offer remote access to vintage systems. Some are now runni

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-19 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/19/21 6:33 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: > Michael asked >> What are we, as a community, to do to fix this and make sure that our >> history stays peserved and isn't one bad day away from vanishing. > > Whenever some new vintage computing page appears I go to archive.org and > submit

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-19 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
iror everything guys make copies and stash On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 8:34 PM Steve Malikoff via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Michael asked > > What are we, as a community, to do to fix this and make sure that our > > history stays peserved and isn't one bad day away from vanishing. > >

Smecc hp 2000 enclosed in glass being used as a backdrop for phx business journal cio of the year award. [PDF]Back to the Futuremedia.bizj.us/view/archive/phoenix/pdf/CIOs 2012 Final.pdf

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
http://media.bizj.us/view/archive/phoenix/pdf/CIOs%202012%20Final.pdf Sent from the all new AOL app for Android

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-19 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Michael asked > What are we, as a community, to do to fix this and make sure that our > history stays peserved and isn't one bad day away from vanishing. Whenever some new vintage computing page appears I go to archive.org and submit the URL to them for the wayback machine. Often they've crawled

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-19 Thread Ian McLaughlin via cctalk
New owners of LCM? I thought Vulcan was the owner all along? Ian Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk > wrote: > > or ends up > dying without having made proper arrangements (See the sad fate of the > Living Computer Museum, which was killed by its n

The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-19 Thread Michael Kerpan via cctalk
The recent discussion of the sudden disappearance of DtCyber and the various classic CDC software to run on it from the Internet has got me thinking about just how precarious so much of computer history is in. So much of what's out there online (and in person) today is at risk just vanishing if who

Re: Getting files from HP 3000l ll business noretapes (was: Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN)

2021-11-19 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
Ed, Maybe you could take a vacation to Oregon and meet up with Keven Miller and get him to convert your tapes to SIMH format for you while you watch and then wipe any intermediate storage to your satisfaction. Or just come up with some sort of non-disclosure agreement that would meet your requirem

Ogle hpq00q0

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
No. Jay  thought answered this missing disk. A. Hp 2883 20meg 10 platter high nice glass top could see heads going in and out. Fun!  Also had 2884 slave drive to it. Google hp2000 and smecc for old pix from the 80s. Would not start  up machines unless I had spare 2100 processor.   System is on a

RE: Getting files from HP 3000l ll business noretapes (was: Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN)

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Heh!  Now that I have calmed down..I  do wish I had kept a  separate dump of  just bbs systems. For 2000 and 3000. And the multi user space war game. Actually the 3000 full volume of everything I ever did or said  was discovered in the garage at home 1  year or maybe more back.  The 800 bpi  tape

RE: Getting files from HP 3000l ll business noretapes (was: Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN)

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
AH NO! JAY! To compare Jay.. it was like if our system was your cell phone your pcs and your business computer contents all in one system. I  doubt you would release  that into public hands. I used our 2000 and 3000. As my personal. PC Jay!  Letters to my family. Notes to myself... poetry...

RE: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Jay have a tape drive. On the system... missing the disk. Some how we lost the 2883 and 2884 drive during business shutdown in 1993.   Currently the 2 Bay  system sits under glass  with a grouping of other early and 80s era HP PC product line.   YEA I WOULD WANT TO HAVE ON HAND AN EXTRA PROCESSE

RE: Getting files from HP 3000 tapes (was: Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN)

2021-11-19 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
Ed wrote... It is solved when I have a tape drive at our physical location to restore our tapes to our system buy US. Perhaps in the interest of saving history for everyone else, you could meet in the middle (figuratively) with a less inward-looking mentality? Unless you're fi

RE: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Yep if is says omsi fortran you are the lucky holder if a copy of it!    Congrats!;Ed# Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:39 PM, Bob brown via cctalk wrote: It looks like I may have the OMNI fortran on "mickey", my publicly accessible hp2000 tsb system emu

Re: Getting files from HP 3000 tapes (was: Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN)

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
It is solved when I have a tape drive at our physical location to restore our tapes to our system buy US.  Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 12:27 PM, Stan Sieler wrote: Ed writes:   ?If? we? ever? ?get? a? way? to? read? tapes? ? for? the? 2000 and? 3000?

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-19 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/2021 8:49 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 11/17/21 3:10 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: Disk images have been sent to Al. I assume he will eventually upload them to Bitsavers when he has time to do so... uploaded to http://bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/floppyimages/RT11-V05.01.Z

Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 11/19/2021 2:39 PM, bbrown...@comcast.net wrote: It looks like I may have the OMNI fortran on "mickey", my publicly accessible hp2000 tsb system emulation. telnet to mickey.publicvm.com ctl-J, ctl-m till you get PLEASE LOG IN HEL-T001,HP2000,1 I see some kind of cobol on the system library

RE: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread Bob brown via cctalk
I think that at least part (maybe all) of the CSL hp2100 assembler might be on my public mickey hp2000 system. I see, for example, a program in the system library called ASMB Which is listed as HPASMB, HP 36806A ASMB part 4 of 4... Could this be part of what you are looking for? -Bob -Orig

RE: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread Bob brown via cctalk
It looks like I may have the OMNI fortran on "mickey", my publicly accessible hp2000 tsb system emulation. telnet to mickey.publicvm.com ctl-J, ctl-m till you get PLEASE LOG IN HEL-T001,HP2000,1 I see some kind of cobol on the system library which may or may not be the cobol that was being tal

Getting files from HP 3000 tapes (was: Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN)

2021-11-19 Thread Stan Sieler via cctalk
Ed writes: ?If? we? ever? ?get? a? way? to? read? tapes? ? for? the? 2000 and? 3000? Well, we can "read" tapes for the HP 3000, and restore the files from HP 3000 backup tapes ... via Allegro Consultant's "ROSETTA STORE" product (of which I'm the primary author). I'm happy to restore some file

Tektronix 4051/4052/4054 GPIB IEEE-488 Flash Drive

2021-11-19 Thread Monty McGraw via cctalk
I saw the recent posts on IEEE-488 on the PDP-11, and Christian's post on his Commodore GPIB floppy drive connection to the Tektronix 4051. I have been working for a couple of years on a GPIB/IEEE-488 Flash Drive for the Tektronix 4051, 4052 and 4054 computers, and am getting close to completion.

Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 11/19/2021 11:41 AM, ED SHARPE wrote: Trying to remembrr how many pages it was? Looking through what I have here I'm finding out this is actually more than one manual. Looks like three so far with each being between about 40-50 pages (single sided photocopies). First part is just labeled

Manual, Amiga, Broadcast Titler 2

2021-11-19 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
Anyone have the manual for the Amiga software Broadcast Titler 2? If so, can I scan it and return it to you? Thanks - Ethan -- : Ethan O'Toole

Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Yea I do remember hearing of the cobol.  We never had that that. The OMSI FORTRAN did work nut wecwere surecglad when we got the  HP3000. with REAL  FORTRAN  ON IT! NOTE  NONE OF THE OMSI  PROGRAMS WERE. NOT PART OF THE HP CONTRIBUTED LIBBARY. Ed#   Sent from the all new AOL app for Android

Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Trying to remembrr how many pages it was?Ed# Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 9:06 AM, David Williams via cctalk wrote: On 11/19/2021 2:35 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > if  you are  not  going to keep the manual we  would  love it   for the SMECC >mu

HP 3056DL - looking for system tape image

2021-11-19 Thread Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk
Hello everyone; The HP 3056DL was a datalogger consisting of an HP3421 and an HP85B; I bought one many years ago and that's how I got my HP85B and one of my HP3421's. I never restored the tape drive since I had an HP9121 floppy drive available early on (I still have it but it is in need of rep

Re: What happened to control-data.info and controlfreaks.org?

2021-11-19 Thread Richard Cornwell via cctalk
There was no internet software in the Update file I found. Rich -- == Richard Cornwell r...@sky-visions.com http://sky-visions.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-cornwell-991076107 ==

Re: What happened to control-data.info and controlfreaks.org?

2021-11-19 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/19/21 5:25 AM, Richard Cornwell via cctalk wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > As the one who discovered Scope 3.0+ source I still have images. > Note this is a build from source not a original image. > SCOPE 3.0+ covers an enormous range of distributions. SCOPE 3.1.6 (my goto source for sev

Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 11/19/2021 2:35 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:  if  you are  not  going to keep the manual we  would  love it   for the SMECC museum's  HP  section in our  Museum Project  here in AZ. i can be  reached at couryho...@aol.com Keep in mind it is not the actual manual itself but a photocop

Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 11/19/2021 7:30 AM, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: I still have a few hp2000 systems running. I haven't seen the fortran one yet but would be surprised if it wasn't on one of my HIB tapes. But I do remember having this on the HP2K systems I used in high school. There was also a free contributed

Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-19 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> rom: Paul Koning > WD-40 is a good solvent to use for adhesives stuck to plastic. It's > unlikely to hurt the plastic but it will soften the glue. My go-to solvent for non-ionized glue residues (use water for ionized) on all sorts of materials has been, for many years, mineral spiri

Re: What happened to control-data.info and controlfreaks.org?

2021-11-19 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Some ARPANET hosts were running SCOPE. Is there any ARPANET software that has been preserved?

Re: What happened to control-data.info and controlfreaks.org?

2021-11-19 Thread Richard Cornwell via cctalk
Hi Andrew, As the one who discovered Scope 3.0+ source I still have images. Note this is a build from source not a original image. Rich -- == Richard Cornwell r...@sky-visions.com http://sky-visions.com LinkedIn: h

RE: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
David wrote... The manual says it was known as OSMI 2000 FORTRAN and was a "series of programs written in the BASIC language which run short FORTRAN programs" on an HP 2000 BASIC system. Anyone heard of this before? I still have a

Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-19 Thread jacob--- via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Nov 18, 2021, at 6:37 AM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: This is a great question, it applies not just to the Cube, but to any Apple system of that vintage. Plastics preservation is a huge topic, the art museums have alot of experience

Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-19 Thread jacob--- via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 03:34:19PM +0100, jacob--- via cctalk wrote: > Brasso, T-Cut, or similar come in useful if you manage to scratch it anyway. Test your technique on some matching scrap plastic first before moving on to the case. You s

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-19 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, it was written On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 3:15 AM Christian Corti via cctalk Our Tektronix 4051 can talk to and use Commodore IEEE floppy drives for mass storage. It has a custom ROM extension for it. That's really cool. There are a few non-Commodore systems that were able t

Re: HP 2000 TSB and FORTRAN

2021-11-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
David   Yes,  our   hp 2000  had  it  that  we  ct  at Computer  Exchange in phx.  a  FORTRAN  that  was written in Basic  indeed!  it  was  an add on  not  something that  came  with the hp timeshare  system   you had  to procure  from  OMSI. I have  some old  store  tapes  that  should  have