Re: R: R: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020, Enrico email.it via cctalk wrote: First of all I would like to thank you all for every suggestion that comes from so much experience. I only know my Ferguson bigboard 1 pretty well The z80 based machine was called GENERAL PROCESSOR Model T year 1981. You can see it here: https

R: R: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread Enrico email.it via cctalk
First of all I would like to thank you all for every suggestion that comes from so much experience. I only know my Ferguson bigboard 1 pretty well The z80 based machine was called GENERAL PROCESSOR Model T year 1981. You can see it here: https://www.vintagesbc.it/?page_id=877 and the cards it was

Re: R: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/6/20 11:41 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Yes, we're all bozos on this bus.  ("Firesign Theater" fourth album) > But, when it comes to disk formats, > none of the rest of us bozos can compare to Chuck. I can claim size 13 feet, so I'm pretty much on the way to being a real Bozo. Perhap

Re: R: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020, Enrico email.it via cctalk wrote: We are trying to read some floppy disk used on a 1981 Italian Z80 machine with CP / M. We saved an image with IMD and we know that the geometry of face A is IBM 3740 26x128x77 tracks. By inserting this data into the 22DISK definition file w

Re: Systems Engineering Laboratories - SEL History

2020-11-06 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
My memories of SEL beginnings are dusty. and rusty. I recall a bunch of their systems being used in science related efforts, beecause of the high IO capability. At the time, for NASA and others, it was the ideal platform for data collection. Not a bad compute capability - many other systems in tha

Re: Vintage Computer Federation Swap Meet 11/7/2020

2020-11-06 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Thu, Nov 5, 2020, 06:39 Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > (And, the guy getting the sandwich had the better deal, IMHO > > > > It's hard with mobile gmail to trim, but regardless I agree! > > Bill "meatball sandwitch" Degnan > > P.S. As a funny I asked for a meatball sandwitch in exchange for

Re: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 11/6/20 12:19 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: BEGIN MUP1  Mupid Seite 1 - SSSD 96 tpi 5.25" DENSITY FM ,LOW CYLINDERS 80 SIDES 1 SECTORS 10,256 SIDE1 0 0,2,4,6,8,1,3,5,7,9 BSH 4 BLM 15 EXM 1 DSM 96 DRM 127 AL0 0C0H AL1 0 OFS 3 END BEG

Re: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/6/20 12:19 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > > BEGIN MUP1  Mupid Seite 1 - SSSD 96 tpi 5.25" > DENSITY FM ,LOW > CYLINDERS 80 > SIDES 1 > SECTORS 10,256 > SIDE1 0 0,2,4,6,8,1,3,5,7,9 > BSH 4 BLM 15 EXM 1 DSM 96 DRM 127 AL0 0C0H AL1 0 OFS 3 > END > > BEGIN MUP2  Mupid Seite 2 - SSSD 96

R: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread Enrico email.it via cctalk
So this for to read 1st face A: BEGIN MUP1 Mupid Seite 1 - SSSD 96 tpi 5.25" DENSITY FM ,LOW CYLINDERS 80 SIDES 1 SECTORS 10,256 SIDE1 0 0,2,4,6,8,1,3,5,7,9 BSH 4 BLM 15 EXM 1 DSM 96 DRM 127 AL0 0C0H AL1 0 OFS 3 END And this for to read the other side B: BEGIN MUP2 Mupid Seite 2 - SSSD 96 tpi

Re: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 5 Nov 2020, "Enrico email.it" wrote: How should we configure 22disk to be able to do the same thing on the B side of the same floppy disk? Inserting Side 2 in the definition table is not enough Actually, it is almost that ;-) I have a similar system, the fl100 floppy drive system,

Re: R: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
To elaborate on what I said earlier, consider the following set of definitions for the CPC-6128 as marketed by Schneider: BEGIN SCH1 Schneider CPC 6128 Side 1 - DSDD 5.25" DENSITY MFM, LOW CYLINDERS 40 SIDES 1 SECTORS 9,512 SIDE1 0 193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201 BSH 3 BLM 7 EXM 0 DSM 180 DRM