Looking to purchase CODE A PHONE bell system attachment that woukd allow,deaf to send morse code through bell system phone. Respond off list...... they would tap on litte finger pad . this,was,an at

Looking to purchase CODE A PHONE  bell system attachment that woukd allow,deaf to send morse code through bell system phone.  Respond off list.. they would tap on litte finger pad . this,was,an attachment to a regular phone,set made in later 60s or 70s. Person on other end would see light

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

We had a few third party backplanes arranged like this.  This allowed them to put a small MFM hard drive or 8 inch floppy in empty  area next to the 4x2 (2x4?) slots of rack-mount 3U or 4U sized unit.  I don't recall any that were a mix of A-B, C-D.  Ours were A-B, A-B.     Jerry On 4/17/20 8

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

On 4/17/20 9:40 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: I remember the VT72 had a non-standard backplane in it, but I don't remember the details. This came out of a real PDP-11. I probably still have the box but with a bigger backplane. It was easily swapped. bill

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

The actual sockets were always labelled with Digital's trademarks, but they sold them to OEMs to do what they like with them.  We OEM'd for the Components Group, at one time placed a million dollar order of stuff including boxes of those backplane sockets! cheers, Nigel On 17/04/2020 21:40

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

I remember the VT72 had a non-standard backplane in it, but I don't remember the details. Paul On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:10 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 4/17/20 8:36 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > Hm. Plessy backplane? > > No name on the phenolic board

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

On 4/17/20 8:36 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Hm. Plessy backplane? No name on the phenolic board part but the QBUS sockets are labeled "Digital Equipment Corporation". bill

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

Hm. Plessy backplane? On 4/17/2020 8:20 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 4/17/20 4:41 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:37 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Definitely not that.  Very small.  Just big enough for the slots I mentioned above.  Power strip on

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

On 4/17/20 4:41 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:37 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Definitely not that. Very small. Just big enough for the slots I mentioned above. Power strip on one edge and berg pins for control on the other. I thought you meant 4 rows

Re: Looking for a document regarding PDP8

At 10:00 AM 4/17/2020, Bob Smith wrote: ...I believe sometime in the late 70s, maybe as late as 1980, a prof associated with UMass wrote a paper describing an extension of the PDP8 called 8/X or 8X. ...I believe, my memory is fuzzy, that it was a prof nnmed Stone or Stoner (perhaps Harold S) who

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Apr 17, 2020, at 9:02, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > As I noted, the two sets of appendices are mostly completely different. There > are 9 appendices that look like they are from the primary document and 5 that > look like they are from inserted pages. Both sets start numbering from "A". > T

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 9:02, Alan Perry via cctech wrote: > But the really interesting thing is that the copyright date on the > "primary" document is AFTER the date in the footers of the "inserted" > pages. Sometimes an update contains a replacement title page (containing the update date

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 18:06, Antonio Carlini via cctech wrote: > pdftk works well for managing pages and PDFs. I'll second that. It's been invaluable for combining PDFs (such as when a supplier insists on delivering its general catalog in individual sections), as well as extracting subs

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 23:53, Frank McConnell wrote: > The folks who did the 3000 manuals didn´t do that very often. What we > got were almost always update packets that simply replaced pages in > their manuals. To be fair, the 1000 (DSD) manuals were updated by replacement pages also. W

RE: Computing Folklore [Was: Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available]

From: Classic CMP Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 9:21 AM > I suspect that most of you will have spent at least a little time on Andy > Herzfeld’s Folklore - https://folklore.org > Like or loathe Apple (and Mr Jobs in particular) it’s an interesting read, > and the way the si

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:37 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Definitely not that. Very small. Just big enough for the > slots I mentioned above. Power strip on one edge and berg > pins for control on the other. > I thought you meant 4 rows of Q/CD slots plus 8 rows of Q/Q slots. So i

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

On 4/17/20 4:05 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 9:52 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: I have been sorting thru a bunch of stuff in an effort to clean the place up (Aren't we all doing that now with all this time on our hands?) I found a backplane. It says Digital

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

On 17/04/2020 17:52, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: I found a backplane.  It says Digital on it but does not  have an H- number.  I also don;t find it listed in any  of the lists I can find on the web. It has 8 A-B slots and 4 C-D slots.  the Four C-D are on the bottom half of the backplane.

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 9:52 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > I have been sorting thru a bunch of stuff in an effort to > clean the place up (Aren't we all doing that now with all > this time on our hands?) I found a backplane. It says > Digital on it but does not have an H- number. I

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

Smart! -- Anders Nelson www.erogear.com On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:04 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 4/17/20 12:57 PM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: > > Just curious - in all the backplane photos I've seen, it appears the > > fragile wire wrapping is always

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On 17/04/2020 17:02, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Looking at the document, my case looks more interesting. As I noted, the two sets of appendices are mostly completely different. There are 9 appendices that look like they are from the primary document and 5 that look like they are from insert

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

On 4/17/20 12:57 PM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: Just curious - in all the backplane photos I've seen, it appears the fragile wire wrapping is always exposed without a cover protecting it from other components, fallen screws and wayward fingers in the computer cabinet. Was it ever standard p

Re: DEC QBUS Backplanes

Just curious - in all the backplane photos I've seen, it appears the fragile wire wrapping is always exposed without a cover protecting it from other components, fallen screws and wayward fingers in the computer cabinet. Was it ever standard practice to put a cover over these? I couldn't imagine d

DEC QBUS Backplanes

I have been sorting thru a bunch of stuff in an effort to clean the place up (Aren't we all doing that now with all this time on our hands?) I found a backplane. It says Digital on it but does not have an H- number. I also don;t find it listed in any of the lists I can find on the web. It

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On 4/16/20 9:32 PM, J. David Bryan via cctech wrote: On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 8:52, Alan Perry via cctech wrote: Should I create two different pdfs with different appendix sections or create a single pdf with both sets? Where both old and new pages were present, and where they c

Re: Great, my VT52 is shot.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 2:21 AM Brent Hilpert via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 2020-Apr-15, at 5:23 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > > Wonderful: A few weeks ago I forgot to turn off my VT52 and left it > running for a day or two. Now the screen is filled with snow and it look

Re: anybody have MOVIE.BYU?

On 2020-04-17 11:59, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > If you have geometry files for Movie.BYU that would add a great deal of > value to this effort. I've run into old Nasa reports showing the space > shuttle and International space station rendered with Movie.BYU. What I found: https://github

Computing Folklore [Was: Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available]

> On 17 Apr 2020, at 17:06, Mark Linimon via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 09:35:09AM +0100, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: >> "If a DSORT6 job fails try running in a larger partition. If it still >> fails try it a smaller partition" > > I love the old

Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 09:35:09AM +0100, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > "If a DSORT6 job fails try running in a larger partition. If it still > fails try it a smaller partition" I love the old tales like this. Folks, please keep 'em coming! mcl

Re: anybody have MOVIE.BYU?

I did get Movie.BYU up on a linux machine and also an Alpha Vax, but what we really need is this reference: Christiansen, H.N. and K.B. Stephenson, "MOVIE.BYU Training Manual," Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah (1982) Anyone got it?  I'm afraid the only distribution was in the training fo

Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available

On 4/17/20 10:27 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Apr 17, 2020, at 3:40 AM, nico de jong via cctalk wrote: On 2020-04-17 09:12, ben via cctalk wrote: On 4/17/2020 12:19 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:00:17PM +, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk wrote: [...]

Re: anybody have MOVIE.BYU?

On 2020-04-15 15:07, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 4/15/20 11:34 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > >> If anyone is interested, I could pack it up and send it to you. This >> was for VAX/VMS.  The directory contains 67 files. >> > > I'd like the files you have. > I have a partial copy of mini-m

Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 3:40 AM, nico de jong via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2020-04-17 09:12, ben via cctalk wrote: >> On 4/17/2020 12:19 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:00:17PM +, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk wrote: >>> [...] Tomasz, forgive me but I have t

Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available

On 4/17/20 3:12 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: On 4/17/2020 12:19 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:00:17PM +, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk wrote: [...] Tomasz, forgive me but I have to ask. You did note the date on which that announcement appeared, right? Yeah. I do

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 23:18, Frank McConnell wrote: > Sometimes I have come across shrink-wrapped manuals and later updates, > and scanned them as found. I wouldn´t want to deny other people the > opportunity to apply updates to manuals, you know? Oh yes, especially the ones that would

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Apr 16, 2020, at 21:32, J. David Bryan via cctech wrote: > > On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 8:52, Alan Perry via cctech wrote: > >> 1. One document is a software installation manual in a loose leaf >> binder with other documents. It has a title page, tables of contents, >> etc., several chapte

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Apr 16, 2020, at 23:37, J. David Bryan wrote: > On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 23:18, Frank McConnell wrote: > >> Sometimes I have come across shrink-wrapped manuals and later updates, >> and scanned them as found. I wouldn´t want to deny other people the >> opportunity to apply updates to man

RE: ICL1501 Cobol manual available

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of nico de jong via > cctalk > Sent: 17 April 2020 08:40 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available > > On 2020-04-17 09:12, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 4/17/2020 12:19 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > >> On

Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available

On 2020-04-17 09:12, ben via cctalk wrote: On 4/17/2020 12:19 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:00:17PM +, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk wrote: [...] Tomasz, forgive me but I have to ask. You did note the date on which that announcement appeared, right? Yeah. I do

Re: ICL1501 Cobol manual available

On 4/17/2020 12:19 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:00:17PM +, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk wrote: [...] Tomasz, forgive me but I have to ask. You did note the date on which that announcement appeared, right? Yeah. I do not have to look at it again to tell you it