Den ons 8 apr. 2020 kl 00:34 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
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> On 07/04/2020 23:34, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
> > I have seen the suggestions to study the waveforms at a much higher
> >
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 18:28, David Williams via cctalk wrote:
> Still have a box of paper tapes from back then that I suspect I'll
> never be able to do anything with again but the pack rat in me refuses
> to let go. Every so often I consider trying to decode them again.
Assuming that you
David wrote...
Any other suggestions of interesting operating systems or software to try
out besides TSB? Interesting development environments or uncommon or unusual
languages tend to grab my interest. Not sure what all was available for the
hardware.
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Yes. http://newton.freehostia.com/h
On 07/04/2020 23:34, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
> I have seen the suggestions to study the waveforms at a much higher
> resolution. What I am doing is setting the overall timebase in the 100ms
> range so that I can trigger on when the 555 starts to oscillate and capture
> the whole period of ope
yes old yahoo group but the io group looks dead>ed#
In a message dated 4/7/2020 4:29:50 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
That's the old Yahoo group isn't it? I had joined them on Yahoo years
ago but never did much there.
Any other suggestions of interesting oper
On 2020-04-07 14:36, J. David Bryan via cctech wrote:
Both Access and F allow the user to input programs by using the paper
tape
reader that's part of the ASR 33 Teletype. But the simulated terminal
multiplexer supports only KSR 33 models (no punch or reader).
ASR 33 is what we used in HS. St
On 4/7/20 3:24 PM, Neil Thompson via cctalk wrote:
> Why? Because we used to run out of resources regularly on that machine
> writing the stuff in EBB, which was also compiled (I may be wrong, but I
> seem to remember compiling stuff on it). And BASIC, even EBB, is generally
> smaller than COBOL.
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> On 2020-Apr-05, at 11:12 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
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> >>> I have obtained a scope trace as you
Why? Because we used to run out of resources regularly on that machine
writing the stuff in EBB, which was also compiled (I may be wrong, but I
seem to remember compiling stuff on it). And BASIC, even EBB, is generally
smaller than COBOL.
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 21:04, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
> On April 7, 2020 at 2:04 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> wrote:
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> On 4/7/20 2:38 PM, Neil Thompson via cctalk wrote:> I never used COBOL on the
> 150x machines, all of our stuff was done in EBB(Extended Business Basic),
> which was a rather bletcherous language IIRC. Imust admit, I'm rathe
I think it's even smaller if you have the Commercial Instruction Set on
your pdp11. :-)
C
On 4/7/2020 3:04 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 4/7/20 2:38 PM, Neil Thompson via cctalk wrote:
I never used COBOL on the 150x machines, all of our stuff was done in EBB
(Extended Business Basi
On 4/7/20 2:38 PM, Neil Thompson via cctalk wrote:
I never used COBOL on the 150x machines, all of our stuff was done in EBB
(Extended Business Basic), which was a rather bletcherous language IIRC. I
must admit, I'm rather surprised to learn that something as big a COBOL
would fit on the machine
> From: Neil Thompson
>
> I'm convinced that Dijksta (and anyone else who came out with similar
> comments were full of horseshit. In my opinion, it's the ability to
> translate a real world "thing" into an algorithm that is the essense of
> programming, and anyone who has managed to learn (parti
I never used COBOL on the 150x machines, all of our stuff was done in EBB
(Extended Business Basic), which was a rather bletcherous language IIRC. I
must admit, I'm rather surprised to learn that something as big a COBOL
would fit on the machine.
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 19:46, jos via cctalk wrote
On 4/7/20 10:03 AM, Bill Degnan wrote:
Wondering if you can get/inquire from http://retrotechnology.com/#multi site.
Manuals are not always listed there, you have to ask.
Bill
Herb is on the intel-devsys mailing list, I just posted a request over there
which would also
get to a bunch of o
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:09 PM Al Kossow via cctech
wrote:
> On 4/6/20 11:37 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
> > Subject line says it all. The Lambda uses this as its disk controller
> and
> > it's looking like the one in mine needs some debugging. There doesn't
> seem
> > to be any document
First I want to say again how much I appreciate your assistance. Up
until now my only experience with this system was as a HS student first
learning to program and never had any access to the system outside of
that. Learning a lot reading the manuals for the system as well as the
doc on Simh an
Since you are all talking COBOL now :
ftp://ftp.dreesen.ch/ICL1501
There is the manual for the early 70´s COBOL implementation for the ICL1501, a
small 8K or 16K TTL based personal computer ( TTL based CPU, with 2x 74181 ALU
and a 32x8 CRT display)
Not the best of scans, but that alas reflect
On 4/6/20 11:37 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
Subject line says it all. The Lambda uses this as its disk controller and
it's looking like the one in mine needs some debugging. There doesn't seem
to be any documentation for this controller out there. There are docs for
the Interphase SMD 21
> From: Ian McLaughlin
> I can confirm that about 6 months ago I gave this very information to
> our corporate locksmith, and he was able to make a key for me that
> works.
Thanks for the confirmation that that info is sufficient to produce a working
key. I have updated the page t
Indeed. My dad worked at Bell labs in the 1970's and when I was in third
grade he brought home a TRS80 Model 1 Level 1 to do work on. It had a
game on cassette called space war or something that I always wanted to
play but he had to load it. Finally he taught me how to CLOAD to get me
out of hi
At 18:25 05-04-20, you wrote:
It was thus said that the Great Fred Cisin via cctalk once stated:
> >>Edsger Dijksta said, "The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching
> >>should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense."
>
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, geneb wrote:
> >I'm pretty sure he said th
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