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On 4/16/2018 9:48 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Back in the day, I often fantasized at what I would do if I had a
processor 10 times faster than the 70s supercomputer I was using.
Little did I suspect that I'd be using the processing power 40-some
years later to watch TV.
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018
On 4/16/2018 9:48 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Back in the day, I often fantasized at what I would do if I had a
processor 10 times faster than the 70s supercomputer I was using.
Little did I suspect that I'd be using the processing power 40-some
years later to watch TV.
--Chuck
And most
On 17/04/2018 14:25, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
Bill Gunshannon wrote:
Many of us think that the advent of the x86 architecture is what led to
masochism.
... or masochism led to the x86 architectu
On 11 August 2014 at 00:37, Jason T wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:40 PM, MikeS wrote:
>
>> - 'Digital Man/Digital World': Ken Olsen/DEC's growth and ultimate decline.
>> (No doubt everyone here except myself had already seen this one ;-)
>
> Now streaming for free off of WFYI's site:
>
> htt
OTOH, Micropro had 8080 originated Wordstar running on the 5150 in weeks.
It took them longer to edit the manuals than to port the code.
Likewise Supercalc, etc.
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Warner Losh wrote:
Part of that too was because MS-DOS provided CP/M programming interfaces,
so in many ways it w
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:14 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, allison via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Looked at 8086 and decided it was a 8080 with a bag on the side.
>> It was and still is irrational.
>>
>
> OTOH, Micropro had 8080 originated Wordstar runnin
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, allison via cctalk wrote:
Looked at 8086 and decided it was a 8080 with a bag on the side.
It was and still is irrational.
In the days of assembly language and hand edited machine code,
An 8080 with a bag on the side made it extremely quick and easy to port
legacy (8080)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:12 AM, allison via cctalk >
> wrote:
>
> > Looked at 8086 and decided it was a 8080 with a bag on the side.
> > It was and still is irrational.
> >
>
> With the 386 architecture (32
On 04/17/2018 02:21 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> How many started coding for a machine writing machine code?
>
> I recall that the IBM 1620 SPS coding forms had two sides--one for
> coding assembly (SPS); the other labeled "IBM 1620 Absolute Coding
> System". Basically a form with the fir
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:12 AM, allison via cctalk
wrote:
> Looked at 8086 and decided it was a 8080 with a bag on the side.
> It was and still is irrational.
>
With the 386 architecture (32-bit), they actually cleaned it up quite a
bit. I won't go nearly so far as to say that 386 is elegant,
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Richard Sheppard via cctalk
wrote:
>> Lastly, I wonder if there might be some kind of checksum check to prevent
>> tampering. Is there a common way this is handled in 8085 world? Or is it
>> entirely programmer dependent?
>
> One approach that be doable for you
How many started coding for a machine writing machine code?
I recall that the IBM 1620 SPS coding forms had two sides--one for
coding assembly (SPS); the other labeled "IBM 1620 Absolute Coding
System". Basically a form with the first 5 positions reserved for the
address, 2 positions for the opco
> Lastly, I wonder if there might be some kind of checksum check to prevent
> tampering. Is there a common way this is handled in 8085 world? Or is it
> entirely programmer dependent?
One approach that be doable for you is if you have a good ROM with a
known checksum, make your changes then ca
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:25 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> >>
> >>>
I recognize that PDP-8/e, it's the one that is working, for visitors to use, at
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On 04/17/2018 11:07 AM, Brian L. Stuart via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, 4/17/18, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>> Disassembly is never lots of fun,
>> Some of us might disagree.
>> But then, some of us might be masochists.
> I wa
On 04/17/2018 10:59 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 04/17/2018 09:25 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>
Many of us think that the advent of the x86 ar
Beauty in engineering. DEC and Data General man, simply artwork.
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > From: Paul Birkel
>
> > the blinky-lights controller panel top-dead-center :-
On Tue, 4/17/18, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>> Disassembly is never lots of fun,
>
> Some of us might disagree.
> But then, some of us might be masochists.
I was just thinking the same thing. This whole discussion
has taken m
On 04/17/2018 09:25 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>
>>> Many of us think that the advent of the x86 architecture is what led to
>>> masochism.
>> ... or masochism led t
Doing disassembly is about a process of refining. Some expect the disassembler
to figure out where the gobs of data bytes are. Most such disassembler do a
poor job on one or another program. The ones that actually work best are those
that allow you ( a human ) to look at the result and allow you
On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:25 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>
>>> Many of us think that the advent of the x86 architecture is what led to
>>> masochism.
>>
>> ... or mas
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote:
On Apr 16, 2018, at 6:31 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
On 04/16/2018 06:11 PM, CuriousMarc via cctalk wrote:
And lifting the sticker reveals the BIOS chip is just a W29C020P-12, a
regular 256k x 8 Flash memory, 5V chip. Duh. Mystery
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>
> > Many of us think that the advent of the x86 architecture is what led to
> > masochism.
>
> ... or masochism led to the x86 architecture.
>
I think you are confused maybe. Was
Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> Many of us think that the advent of the x86 architecture is what led to
> masochism.
... or masochism led to the x86 architecture.
> bill
--Johnny
On 04/17/2018 08:04 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Eric Smith
>
> > But then, some of us might be masochists.
>
> I think pretty much by definition if you're into vintage computers, you have
> to be a masochist... :-)
>
>
Many of us think that the advent of the x86 archit
> From: Eric Smith
> But then, some of us might be masochists.
I think pretty much by definition if you're into vintage computers, you have
to be a masochist... :-)
Noel
Mark - if you don't find another good spot for it, I'd be happy to host it for
free. Perhaps rsx.classiccmp.org or such.
Best,
J
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