Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

On 09/10/2017 06:25 PM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: > There was one of those machines in my Junior High School shop > classroom. I saw it run once (not well enough to successfully set a > line of type, but nearly). > > I endorse Mark’s assessment of its safety characteristics... I knew a fell

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

On Sep 10, 2017, at 7:55 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 04:55:48PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> Not nearly as funny to watch as a Mergenthaler Linotype hot-type >> machine, I'll wager. > > I got to see one in use my freshman year of college. The school

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

I remember the first articles I wrote for the HP chronicle newspaper I did with editor 3000... it was handy as where ever I was I could log on and work on it. In a message dated 9/10/2017 6:08:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: I remember th

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

I remember the fort articles I wrote for the HP chronicle newspaper I did with editor 3000... it was handy as where ever i was I could log on and work on it. In a message dated 9/10/2017 6:04:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: >> Virtually ALL "

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

Virtually ALL "FIRST"s in history had obscure predecessors. Hence the word "FIRST" should be avoided by any real historians with integrity. On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: I think it all depends upon how you define ???word processing???. For me I absolutely detest things like MS W

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 04:55:48PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Not nearly as funny to watch as a Mergenthaler Linotype hot-type > machine, I'll wager. I got to see one in use my freshman year of college. The school newspaper was still set that way (out of loyalty for the people who had

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

> On Sep 10, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >>> What word-processor programs existed prior to micros? >> WPS-8, of course. Wang had word processors in that same era. Then there >> is the MT/ST which I think is older still. And if you define it as >> "computer based tex

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

On 09/10/2017 03:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > I tried to interest my publisher in going straight from microcomputer > into typesetting machine, but I couldn't do that disk format, and the > Rochester Dynatyper was too funny to watch. Not nearly as funny to watch as a Mergenthaler Linoty

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

On 09/10/2017 03:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Surely SOMEBODY must have used one for a manuscript. Possibly after > hours in a business where the boss might not have even approved of using > it for "non-business" stuff. 'course it might have been something > obscure and forgettable. >

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

What word-processor programs existed prior to micros? WPS-8, of course. Wang had word processors in that same era. Then there is the MT/ST which I think is older still. And if you define it as "computer based text editor" then you'd go back at least to TECO, which first appeared on the PDP

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Fred, you forgot that Tesla invented alternating current... I wasn't around for that stuff. From what I've heard, he didn't get into public electrocutions to demonstrate. It seems that anything with a typewriter style keyboard and ANY sort

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

WPS-8 was awesome! I had one of the desks with the 8a in the back and rxo1 drives! and the daisy wheel printer then over time ended up with three but alas have none now... Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 9/10/2017 3:25:04 P.M. US Mountain Stand

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

> On Sep 10, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, couryho...@aol.com wrote: >> then. who was. the TRUE first? > > Michael Shrayer's girlfriend? > And what motivated him to write "Electric Pencil"? > Jerry started using it early on, but he was NOT

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, couryho...@aol.com wrote: WORD PROCESSING VIA PUNCH CARDS Need to insert the paragraph in a different place? Shift those cards in the deck Yep! To make a change, you retype a LINE, not a PAGE. WE think of microcomputers as being the first "practical" way to do it. A lo

Re: Computers before Information Theory

On Sep 10, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: >> From: Brent Hilpert > > ...snip... > >> When/what/who was the actual first assembler conceived or produced? > > Noel wrote: > A very good question indeed! Does anyone know? > > I have this bit set that one early computer assigne

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

On Sep 10, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, couryho...@aol.com wrote: >> then. who was. the TRUE first? > > Michael Shrayer's girlfriend? > And what motivated him to write "Electric Pencil"? > Jerry started using it early on, but he was NOT the firs

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

WORD PROCESSING VIA PUNCH CARDS Need to insert the paragraph in a different place? Shift those cards in the deck Seriously though... anything helps me... I have never written long things in a linear manner... when I was a kid I would write the stuff down then cut the paragraph

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, couryho...@aol.com wrote: then. who was. the TRUE first? Michael Shrayer's girlfriend? And what motivated him to write "Electric Pencil"? Jerry started using it early on, but he was NOT the first user of it. Before Electric Pencil, what microcomputer word-process

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

On 10/09/2017 20:55, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I want to replace a PLCC84 surface mounted chip and take the opportunity to socket it. I have looked at some YouTube videos to see how others have done this. I am thinking that the best way is going to be to pre-solder the pads on the socket, pl

RE: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Namens Rob Jarratt via > cctalk > Verzonden: zondag 10 september 2017 21:55 > Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Onderwerp: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket > > I want to r

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:07:25 -0700 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket > > On 09/10/2017 12:55 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > >> I have looked at some YouTube videos to see

Re: Computers before Information Theory

> On Sep 10, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Brent Hilpert > > ... > >> When/what/who was the actual first assembler conceived or produced? > > A very good question indeed! Does anyone know? I don't. But I can point to an early example of a quite primitive ass

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

On 09/10/2017 12:55 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > I have looked at some YouTube videos to see how others have done this. I am > thinking that the best way is going to be to pre-solder the pads on the > socket, place the socket on the board and then heat the pads on the socket > from above wi

Re: Computers before Information Theory

On 09/10/2017 10:22 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > A very good question indeed! Does anyone know? Wikipedia gives credit to Kathleen Booth in 1947 developing an assembler for the ARC2 at the UofL. EDSAC had one in 1949. Then there was SAP (Symbolic Assembly Program) and SOAP (Symbolic Opt

Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

I want to replace a PLCC84 surface mounted chip and take the opportunity to socket it. I have looked at some YouTube videos to see how others have done this. I am thinking that the best way is going to be to pre-solder the pads on the socket, place the socket on the board and then heat the pads

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

For what it's worth, WikiP gives the following attribution: "The first novel to be written on a word processor, the IBM MT/ST, was Len Deighton's Bomber, published in 1970." But history is a fickle mistress. --Chuck

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

On 09/10/2017 11:40 AM, Ed via cctalk wrote: > then. who was. the TRUE first? > We'll probably never know that one. It was an obvious application once alphanumeric printing was possible. See, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_processor#History One of the initial attra

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...

then. who was. the TRUE first? Ed# In a message dated 9/10/2017 11:08:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer FIRST??!? By now, you should know better than to EVER use that wor

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

On 09/10/2017 11:08 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > But, there were MANY obscure, mostly unpublished, manuscripts among the > VERY first uses of word processing. Well before Jerry got into computers. In fact, I'm aware of at least one novel that was composed using punched cards on a mainframe

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer FIRST??!? By now, you should know better than to EVER use that word in the presence of those who were there during the history - it's comparable to saying that Steve Jobs invented the first computer, or that billg invented th

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

- Original Message - From: "Ed via cctalk" To: Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:53 PM Subject: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt > > > > RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer > > > Early adopter >

RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopter by Andrew Liptak https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/9/16279582/jerry-pournelle-science-fiction-a uthor-writing-computers-obituary sad Ed#

Re: Computers before Information Theory

> From: Brent Hilpert > I have wondered just how much influence the latent theory that was > around influenced the practical implementors of calculating machinery > ... > My impression is the implementors at the time arrived at stored-program > machines far more out of prac

Re: EBAY - DEC RX01/02 floppy disks -Andromeda Systems and AED utilities

Hello, I don't have any Andromeda hardware, but I think an easy solution would be to ask to the eBay seller to ask to the buyer if he would be available to be in contact with the group. After all, it's very likely that he could be an enthusiast like us. Then ask about imaging the disks... Hoping t

RE: Seeking VT180 floppy drive connection cable BC26K

Van: Henk Gooijen via cctalk Verzonden: zaterdag 9 september 2017 06:55 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Onderwerp: Seeking VT180 floppy drive connection cable BC26K Hi list readers, I have a VT180 and two dual 5.25” floppy driv