Re: DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 08:39:26PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Greg Stark > > > It doesn't seem reasonable to me for you to request buyers provide you > > with a list of what they would be interested in > > It might seem more reasonable if you'd seen his basement... :-) > >

RE: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

2016-07-13 Thread Sam O'nella
I thought it had said CP/M code in DOS? Revisited..." Sometimes I really think I'm dyslexic. > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Evan Koblentz > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:45 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-T

RE: Reproduction micros

2016-07-13 Thread Sam O'nella
Original message The thing about the Amiga was its wow factor -- I remember walking into Compucentre (Canadian chain) in the mid-80s.. and there's all the computers from 8 bit heaven and their 16 color graphics (if you were lucky).. and then there's this one computer on a pedes

RE: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

2016-07-13 Thread Kip Koon
Hi Eric, Hum, I wonder where Gary got his ideas? Didn't he use a DEC PDP-nn for his initial PL/M compiler to get the first CP/M built in the first place? I'd like to find out more about TOPS-10, OS-8 and RT-11. Very interesting indeed! Kip Koon computer...@sc.rr.com http://www.cocopedia.co

RE: Reproduction micros

2016-07-13 Thread Sam O'nella
I haven't built or marketed anything myself but i believe if i understood   correctly from several folks who have that vga was a cheaper choice due to licensing costs for dvi or hdmi at the time.  Not sure if vga is past that point or open but when keeping home brew kits cheap for us hobbyists e

Re: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

2016-07-13 Thread Eric Smith
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Kip Koon wrote: > Back in my twenties, I was reading about CP/M in the college library where I > attended > thinking, "Wow! CP/M looks EXACTLY like MS-DOS!" And if you'd read about DEC operating systems, you'd have thought that CP/M looks like TOPS-10, OS-8, a

RE: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

2016-07-13 Thread Kip Koon
Hi Guys, I have to laugh at myself. I just realized that when I read the title of the email, I thought it had said CP/M code in DOS? Revisited..." Sometimes I really think I'm dyslexic. Maybe. In love with computers, definitely. I think I was born with food in one hand and computers in the

RE: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

2016-07-13 Thread Kip Koon
Hi Guys, I have been suspicious of Microsoft pirating CP/M for decades! Back in my twenties, I was reading about CP/M in the college library where I attended thinking, "Wow! CP/M looks EXACTLY like MS-DOS!" So I went on a reading spree and found out that CP/M was written by Gary Kildall well

Re: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

2016-07-13 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, Evan Koblentz wrote: Did MS-DOS use code copied from CP/M? Forensic software engineer Bob Zeidman said "no" in 2012 but now he has new research to disclose at VCF West. That's all I can say for now. :) THAT might be CP/M code in MS-DOS. As to your subject line of "DOS cod

Re: IBM 360/30 in verilog

2016-07-13 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 01:43:38PM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > everyone in it striking that characteristic 60s/70s IBM-photo-pose, eg. > someone leaning over a table, another reaching for a console knob, one > changing a tape and at least two people earnestly discussing a printout. Althoug

DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

2016-07-13 Thread Evan Koblentz
Did MS-DOS use code copied from CP/M? Forensic software engineer Bob Zeidman said "no" in 2012 but now he has new research to disclose at VCF West. That's all I can say for now. :)

Re: DEC boards at recycler

2016-07-13 Thread devin davison
I would be extremely interested in the cpu boards. Pick them up please. I have a spare unibus chasis and am have been looking for a cpu card for a while. The memory boards M8067, real time clock M7856, and serial card M8043 are of interest. The cpu boards are of the highest interest to me. If yo

Mall directory computers

2016-07-13 Thread Brad H
Been wondering about this for a while. Just one of those odd childhood memories. When I was a kid growing up in Oakville, Ontario, I remember Oakville Mall getting one of those very early mall directory computers. This would have been like, 1982-84, somewhere thereabouts. From what I rememb

RE: Reproduction micros

2016-07-13 Thread Brad H
It's pretty cool seeing what people are doing out there. I like when people replicate things that are super rare -- like the Mark-8, SCELBI, etc.And it's definitely cool to see projects like the Altair clone, with its big empty case, all the hardware being emulated by a tiny little replacement

Re: VCF West has 30 exhibits

2016-07-13 Thread Evan Koblentz
There are 30 exhibits for Vintage Computer Festival West XI next month: http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-west-xi/vcf-west-exhibits/ VCF West now has * 31 * exhibits. :)

RE: DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Jay West
Rod wrote There is a need to be able to post wanted/offered small ads. Absolutely. And it happens a lot... thank $diety J

Re: DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Rod Smallwood
Whilst our list is not a marketplace and often sees a lot of altruistic acts in the cause keeping going or restoring systems. There is a need to be able to post wanted/offered small ads. Rod Sent from my iPad > On 14 Jul 2016, at 00:55, Jay West wrote: > > Greg wrote... > --- > It doesn

FTGH: DEC 54-17507 backplane; Sun type-4 keyboards

2016-07-13 Thread Mouse
I've finally started digging through all my stuff in storage, at least in a small way. Two (or three) things I've found so far might be of interest here. (There will likely be more eventually, but it's anybody's guess when I'll find the round tuits to do more digging.) - One DEC 54-17507. Googl

Re: DEC boards at recycler

2016-07-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jules Richardson > I just told the guy to hold off on execution and I'm going back in next > week with a view to just buying everything Good call. Most of those cards are worth something to someone. (E.g. I'd be interested in the CPU's, the RLV12s, the DLV11-Js, and the M8067s

Re: DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Greg Stark > It doesn't seem reasonable to me for you to request buyers provide you > with a list of what they would be interested in It might seem more reasonable if you'd seen his basement... :-) Noel

RE: DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Jay West
Greg wrote... --- It doesn't seem reasonable to me for you to request buyers provide you with a list of what they would be interested in on the chance that you might have something they want. --- 1) I'd usually prefer what Paul is doing, rather than vendors posting a weekly inventory li

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-13 Thread ben
On 7/13/2016 5:29 PM, Dave Wade wrote: -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of ben Sent: 14 July 2016 00:24 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Reproduction micros On 7/13/2016 3:53 PM, Dave Wade wrote: The modern replacements have the ad

RE: Reproduction micros

2016-07-13 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of ben > Sent: 14 July 2016 00:24 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Reproduction micros > > On 7/13/2016 3:53 PM, Dave Wade wrote: > > > > > The modern replacements have the advantage they can us

Re: DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Warner Losh
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Greg Stark wrote: > I'm new here so maybe I'm wrong but isn't the norm that sellers offer items > for sale and buyers makee offers for those items? > > It doesn't seem reasonable to me for you to request buyers provide you with > a list of what they would be intere

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-13 Thread ben
On 7/13/2016 3:53 PM, Dave Wade wrote: The modern replacements have the advantage they can use a "modern" VGA display, SD-Card for data not slow cassette tape. So you ARE THE EVIL ONE! I had to pick up a "MODERN" VGA and can not do any thing with the *#%&!@* wide screen. Even GOOD TV like S

Re: DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Greg Stark
I'm new here so maybe I'm wrong but isn't the norm that sellers offer items for sale and buyers makee offers for those items? It doesn't seem reasonable to me for you to request buyers provide you with a list of what they would be interested in on the chance that you might have something they want

Re: DEC boards at recycler

2016-07-13 Thread Jules Richardson
On 07/13/2016 05:41 PM, John H. Reinhardt wrote: M7961 <-- Yeah, I started throwing numbers into Google after I posted, and I think that one came up empty. Maybe I wrote it down wrong. Anything Emulex with a 50-pin connector on the top is probably a SCSI card. Worth saving. Hmm, that

Re: DEC boards at recycler

2016-07-13 Thread John H. Reinhardt
On 7/13/2016 5:56 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: I found various DEC (Qbus?) boards at my local tame recycler earlier. They're scheduled for preprocessing this evening (e.g. ceramic ICs pulled and diverted into different pile due to higher gold content), but I may be able to get them a stay of exe

RE: DEC boards at recycler

2016-07-13 Thread Dave Wade
M8061 is RL01/RL02 and I would like if you could ship to UK. > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules > Richardson > Sent: 13 July 2016 22:56 > To: discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: DEC boards at recyc

Re: DEC boards at recycler

2016-07-13 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Jules Richardson < jules.richardso...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I found various DEC (Qbus?) boards at my local tame recycler earlier. > They're scheduled for preprocessing this evening (e.g. ceramic ICs pulled > and diverted into different pile due to higher gold conte

Re: DEC boards at recycler

2016-07-13 Thread Kirk Davis
The M8190 is likely to be of interest to someone since it’s likely to be a 11/84. Personally I’m interested in one or both of the M8061’s which are Qbus RL02 controllers and would cough up some bucks to buy off the recycler. Kirk > On Jul 13, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Jules Richardson > wrote: > >

DEC boards at recycler

2016-07-13 Thread Jules Richardson
I found various DEC (Qbus?) boards at my local tame recycler earlier. They're scheduled for preprocessing this evening (e.g. ceramic ICs pulled and diverted into different pile due to higher gold content), but I may be able to get them a stay of execution (as of now I've got about 2 hours in

RE: Reproduction micros

2016-07-13 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of ben > Sent: 13 July 2016 19:49 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Reproduction micros > > On 7/12/2016 10:41 AM, Dave Wade wrote: > > There is an on-going CoCo 3 in FPGA. > > > > http://www.br

Re: DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Paul Anderson
Sorry, Champaign, IL area. A few hours south of Chicago. On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Paul Anderson wrote: > I have a big load of DEC items coming in within the next month or two, > probably a 24 foot truck packed, and an even larger one one possible this > fall. > > I already have a 25 foo

Re: WANTED: PDP-8 KE8E Extended arithmetic element

2016-07-13 Thread Doug Ingraham
You used to be able to find a set with connector blocks for $200 to $300 range on EBay. But I haven't seen any pop up for a couple of years now. Keep an eye on machines. These options were found in the variants of E's (F and M) and some A's. You might have to buy another machine in order to get

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-13 Thread ben
On 7/12/2016 10:41 AM, Dave Wade wrote: There is an on-going CoCo 3 in FPGA. http://www.brianholman.com/retrocompute/files/coco3fpga.html Spectrum III http://www.mike-stirling.com/retro-fpga/zx-spectrum-on-an-fpga/comment-page- 1/ but lots more about Dave Strange ... how all the computers

Re: IBM 360/30 in verilog

2016-07-13 Thread ben
On 7/11/2016 4:53 AM, Paul Birkel wrote: -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Camiel Vanderhoeven Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:31 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: IBM 360/30 in verilog (was: How do they m

Re: NuTek Mac comes

2016-07-13 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Eric Christopherson once stated: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Chris Hanson > wrote: > > > QuickDraw was almost literally the first code running on the Mac once it > > switched to 68K. > > > > Was there a pre-68K period in Mac development? Yes. The proje

Re: NuTek Mac comes

2016-07-13 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Chris Hanson wrote: > QuickDraw was almost literally the first code running on the Mac once it > switched to 68K. > Was there a pre-68K period in Mac development? -- Eric Christopherson

DEC Permission to Copy Out-Of-Print

2016-07-13 Thread Jerome H. Fine
I need to obtain a link to the DEC Permission to Copy Out-Of-Print manuals. Might it still be at an HP site? Specifically, while just the actual permission itself will be helpful, more important is to be able to show that it still comes from an official source. I saw the Permission Notice in th

bode.ee.ualberta.ca

2016-07-13 Thread Wouter de Waal
Hi all Does anyone have a mirror of bode.ee.ualberta.ca or know where I can find one? Sheesh the internet's supposed to be a repository but stuff is disappearing off of it like there's a black hole somewhere. W

DEC items to either pick up, ship or drop off at VCF midwest

2016-07-13 Thread Paul Anderson
I have a big load of DEC items coming in within the next month or two, probably a 24 foot truck packed, and an even larger one one possible this fall. I already have a 25 foot storage unit costing me a small fortune, and will probably need another. I need to sell off as many boxes, boards and ter