Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:19 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > > > Any idea which vendor to buy from to get an "open" part, how to preserve the > firmware / settings on what you get if you wish to modify it as an open > product? The above is pretty nasty for the vendor of an open product, and > I think I'l

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Don North
On 6/1/2016 10:19 PM, jwsmobile wrote: On 6/1/2016 4:52 PM, Mike Ross wrote: The advantages of the SCSI2SD over the ACard are as follows: > >1) It's open-source (hardware and firmware and software) >2) The developer is extremely responsive to bug reports / feature requests >3) It's very flexib

Re: Beehive B601 terminal

2016-06-01 Thread COURYHOUSE
need to see a photo always looking for the beige upper case only hives~ I force people that whine about SHOUTING to use them for an hour Ed In a message dated 6/1/2016 9:12:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ccl...@sydex.com writes: On 06/01/2016 08:24 AM, tony duell wrote: >

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/1/2016 4:52 PM, Mike Ross wrote: The advantages of the SCSI2SD over the ACard are as follows: > >1) It's open-source (hardware and firmware and software) >2) The developer is extremely responsive to bug reports / feature requests >3) It's very flexible -- you can make it look like any driv

Re: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread Zane Healy
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > > Yeah, I think all Apple keyboards /up until/ the Extended II had > keyswitches -- then they switched to cheaper ones, like most of the > industry. I believe so. I’m typing this on my Extended II keyboard. I bought it when I bought my Power

Decmate II

2016-06-01 Thread pdaguytom .
I've got a Decmate II that has a keyboard issue. I've tested with a LK401 that I use with my Rainbow 100 system, keyboard works fine with the Rainbow but gives a error 48 with the Decmate. I've had a look at the motherboard, tracing pins 14 & 15 from the db15 connector to a series of what looks t

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-06-01 Thread Mark J. Blair
The Plastibands that I tried were about half the width of the original belt once stretched into place, and they would not stay centered on the pulleys or tape spools at all. Once they slipped, after just a few turns of the roller, they tangled things up badly. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www

Re: Keyboards and Mice (was Model M, NEC ProSpeed)

2016-06-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
Okay, time for a big gripe about the Model M--the *&^!~ "feet" that can be snapped out to raise the top a bit. They get old and brittle and the usual solvent cement (methylene dichloride) doesn't touch it. I much prefer the supports on the Model F, but you can't have everything. Has anyone loca

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Mike Ross
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Josh Dersch wrote: > The advantages of the SCSI2SD over the ACard are as follows: > > 1) It's open-source (hardware and firmware and software) > 2) The developer is extremely responsive to bug reports / feature requests > 3) It's very flexible -- you can make it lo

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/06/2016 23:51, Swift Griggs wrote: Does anyone have such a beast and can share a model # ? If they are cheap enough, I'd replace my current crapola 1X external "ace in the hole" CDROM with it. My hang-up has always been the block size issue. Most Toshibas respond to the command, so prett

Re: Keyboards and Mice (was Model M, NEC ProSpeed)

2016-06-01 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Liam Proven once stated: > On 1 June 2016 at 17:48, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > I'm keyboard-oriented--Ctrl-V, where I've copied using Ctrl-X or > > Control-C . > > The neat thing about middle-click-to-paste-selection is that it's *as > well as* the clipboard C&P. > >

Re: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread Liam Proven
On 1 June 2016 at 20:57, Swift Griggs wrote: > Cool. I didn't know about those early mechanical models. I didn't wake up > to macs until about the Mac II days. I did have a friend with a IIGS. I > remember playing the Bards' Tale series on there. So, I must have used it > before. Yeah, I think al

Re: Keyboards and Mice (was Model M, NEC ProSpeed)

2016-06-01 Thread Liam Proven
On 1 June 2016 at 17:48, Chuck Guzis wrote: > I'm keyboard-oriented--Ctrl-V, where I've copied using Ctrl-X or > Control-C . The neat thing about middle-click-to-paste-selection is that it's *as well as* the clipboard C&P. So you can, for instance, highlight a URL, hit Ctrl-C to copy, highlight

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, pete wrote: > AAT. 2048 bytes is the common CDROM standard, used by PCs and their > ilk, whereas SGIs want 512-byte blocks on CDROMs. Ah, quite right. Thanks, Pete. > Some SGIs/IRIX versions (eg Indy and later, running IRIX 5.3 or later) > will issue a command to make the C

cdrom block size - WAS::::Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Kemp
+1 Most early Sun equipment required 512 block size also. Not that I am casting doubt, but I am unaware of anything that required 2048 block size for optical devices. If you have a workstation or server that required 2048 block size for optical media, please share! That is the great thing

Re: Macintosh Quadra 840AV

2016-06-01 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> There is a newer version in production V5 and the next generation > (total redesign) soon. > > http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD I have one in my Solbourne S3000. Works great. http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/solace/install.html --

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread pete
On 01/06/2016 23:29, Swift Griggs wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Josh Dersch wrote: it can support multiple drives on a single board, pretend to be a CD-ROM, etc, etc, etc. 4) It's considerably cheaper. That's an excellent feature that I'm sure would come in handy, especially if it can emulate a C

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-06-01 Thread shadoooo
Hello, I would need some clarification about the Plastibands, as I will have to find a suitable replacement for the belt, as ALL my cartridges need a replacement, after removing the old one without causing the infamous blank-spot. Al, please could you clarify which size / brand of (Baumgarten)

Re: SCSI2SD for 50 pin - was Re: Macintosh Quadra 840AV

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Lancashire
The newer V6 board looks like what I'm after for my 9000/382 -pete On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Cody Swanson wrote: > Perfect, I will check out the scsi2sd. Thanks for the feedback gents! > > - Original Message - > From: "Toby Thain" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic

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Re: Macintosh Quadra 840AV

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Lancashire
There is a newer version in production V5 and the next generation (total redesign) soon. http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:19 AM, tim lindner wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Cody Swanson wrote: >> What is everyone doing for replacement 50

Re: Model M Key Cap Replacement WAS: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread Guy Dawson
On my 1992 IBM Model M most of the key caps are removable but some are not. Notably, wider keys such as Backspace, Enter and the big + on the numeric pad don't have removable caps. They're like the Unicomp Wide Keys. On 1 June 2016 at 14:52, geneb wrote: > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Christopher Satte

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/06/2016 22:05, Jerry Kemp wrote: I still remember when I had my first 600G (not GR) that got upgraded to (3) 327 Mb drives. I was very excited that I had *just shy* of 1 Gig of hard disk storage space available. When I bought my SGI Indy, I swallowed hard and specced a 1GB drive for it,

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Josh Dersch wrote: > The advantages of the SCSI2SD over the ACard are as follows: Heh, I just ordered one. I'll test it vis-a-vis the ACARD device and post my results here and on Nekochan where I originally posted about the ACARD adapter. > 1) It's open-source (hardware and

Acard - WAS::Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Kemp
Thanks for the link. I wasn't aware of the Acard device. I guess I should extend my question, so, does anyone have an Acard HDD replacement in their AT&T 3b2? If so, how is it working out for you? Jerry On 06/ 1/16 01:03 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote: I w

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Kemp
Absolutely. If I had an IRIX box right now, it would be spinning rust or an SSD. One day I hope to have a Crimson and a Fuel. Any 3b2 is going to be significantly slower. I still remember when I had my first 600G (not GR) that got upgraded to (3) 327 Mb drives. I was very excited that I ha

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Not so slow that it's awful on an Indy (apart maybe from booting), but > > noticeably slower than people expect on faster machines. The ACARD ones > > seem to be faster. Perhaps it won't matter fo

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 20:25, Fred Cisin wrote: Here's a clue "Garmin" You had me really confused there for a moment. I thought you were talking about the company that makes navigational devices at first and couldn't for the life of me figure out what they had to do with it. Obviously, I had the wr

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Pete Turnbull wrote: > Not so slow that it's awful on an Indy (apart maybe from booting), but > noticeably slower than people expect on faster machines. The ACARD ones > seem to be faster. Perhaps it won't matter for older machines. The Acard device is @250 bucks. It appear

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/06/2016 18:36, Jerry Kemp wrote: We have recently had activity on the list discussing AT&T 3b2 related stuff, then earlier today we have had discussions concerning the SCSI2SD drive replacement hardware. I was reviewing the online documentation for SCSI2SD, specifically here: Wondering

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Fred Cisin
Here's a clue "Garmin" You had me really confused there for a moment. I thought you were talking about the company that makes navigational devices at first and couldn't for the life of me figure out what they had to do with it. Obviously, I had the wrong Garmin… On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Jerry Wei

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Weiss
Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org > On Jun 1, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Brian L. Stuart wrote: > > On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: >> On 01/06/2016 19:34, Brian L. Stuart wrote: >>> On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: > On 01/06/2016 19:34, Brian L. Stuart wrote: >> On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: >>> On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Apart from a personal 1202 alarm I have a habit o

Re: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Raymond Wiker wrote: > The Apple //e, //c, //c+ and //GS all had mechanical and somewhat clicky > keyboards (using various types of Alps keyswitches). I'm also pretty > certain that the original Mac had a (very nice) clicky keyboard. Cool. I didn't know about those early mech

RE: Tek 4317 and/or Tek 4132

2016-06-01 Thread Rick Bensene
Al K. wrote: > At this point it may be worth digging into the drives to see if they can be > fixed. > I have had bits of a 4132 for a while, and haven't had any luck locating > software. The original drives are long gone. At the time, I looked into sending them to a data recovery firm to see

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 19:34, Brian L. Stuart wrote: On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Apart from a personal 1202 alarm I have a habit of coding "can't happen" error checks with 1201 or 1202 error

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 19:21, Glen Slick wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: You could if you were able to get into ODT. I have yet to discover how you get there. Read the manual. See that setup option K is the Halt on Break option which has a factory default setting of 0,

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: > On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood > > wrote: > > > Apart from a personal 1202 alarm > > > > I have a habit of coding "can't happen" error checks with 1201 or 1202 > > error numbers. > > You may be

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:Apart from a personal 1202 alarm I have a habit of coding "can't happen" error checks with 1201 or 1202 error numbers. -- Charles You may be close .. Do you know

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > You could if you were able to get into ODT. I have yet to discover how you > get there. > Read the manual. See that setup option K is the Halt on Break option which has a factory default setting of 0, which ignores console breaks from the

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 18:54, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:49 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E All good information. Apart from a personal 1202 alarm (somebody out there may und

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 18:50, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:24 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E > From: Henk Gooijen > The first 4 (5?) slots are QBUS Technically, PMI,

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote: > I was reviewing the online documentation for SCSI2SD, specifically here: > > and I specifically see that the AT&T 3B2/600 is supported. I neither have a AT&T 3B2 nor a SCSI2SD. Sorry. I do however, h

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Charles Anthony
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:Apart from a personal 1202 alarm I have a habit of coding "can't happen" error checks with 1201 or 1202 error numbers. -- Charles

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:49 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E All good information. Apart from a personal 1202 alarm (somebody out there may understand that) I did try a TK50 controll

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > We have recently had activity on the list discussing AT&T 3b2 related > stuff, then earlier today we have had discussions concerning the SCSI2SD > drive replacement hardware. > > I was reviewing the online documentation for SCSI2SD, specificall

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:24 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E > From: Henk Gooijen > The first 4 (5?) slots are QBUS Technically, PMI, which is more-or-less QBUS on the left

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 18:24, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood > if you try to get it to boot it says no controller to every device > except DD and that says no drive Hmm, I wonder if that's a clue. Ah, probably not: 'DD' means 'TU58', which is interfaced through a standard ser

AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Kemp
We have recently had activity on the list discussing AT&T 3b2 related stuff, then earlier today we have had discussions concerning the SCSI2SD drive replacement hardware. I was reviewing the online documentation for SCSI2SD, specifically here:

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> If you look in the "PDP-11/84 System Technical and Reference Manual" Ooops, getting my 84's and 94's (it's the same chassis) mixed up. You of course want the "PDP-11/94-E System User and Maintenance Guide" (EK-PDP94-MG-001) http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/1194/EK-PDP94-MG-001_Sep90.pdf

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 17:24, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: On 01/06/2016 14:39, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: OK from the beginning. 1.The 11/94 is housed in deep box located in a 42inch cabinet. It uses a KDJ

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rod Smallwood > if you try to get it to boot it says no controller to every device > except DD and that says no drive Hmm, I wonder if that's a clue. Ah, probably not: 'DD' means 'TU58', which is interfaced through a standard serial line (DL11 clone), and the standard device l

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 16:27, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:02 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: PDP-11/94-E Hi I'm trying to get my 11/94 running. Its a hybrid having both Q and Unibus. T

MOnSter 6502 (was Re: Monster 6502)

2016-06-01 Thread Eric Smith
Nitpick: It's not the "Monster 6502", it's the "MOnSter 6502". Eric has added discrete capacitors to the internal buses which has it working better than before. I haven't heard whether that's improved the maximum clock rate.

Re: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread Raymond Wiker
> On 01 Jun 2016, at 16:46 , Liam Proven wrote: > > On 1 June 2016 at 00:16, Swift Griggs wrote: >> I've never >> known them to create "clackety" keyboards with mechanical switches > > But that's the point. This here Extended II has them, as did the > Extended I before it. (I have one of them

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

2016-06-01 Thread geneb
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 06/01/2016 07:18 AM, geneb wrote: For trackballs, you can't beat the Kensington Trackball: http://www.kensington.com/us/us/4493/k64325/expert-mouse-wired-trackball (They can be had for less in other places) The ball is roughly the size of a cue ball

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

2016-06-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/01/2016 09:18 AM, geneb wrote: For trackballs, you can't beat the Kensington Trackball: http://www.kensington.com/us/us/4493/k64325/expert-mouse-wired-trackball (They can be had for less in other places) The ball is roughly the size of a cue ball and it's got a nice feel to it. $100??

Re: SCSI2SD for 50 pin - was Re: Macintosh Quadra 840AV

2016-06-01 Thread Cody Swanson
Perfect, I will check out the scsi2sd. Thanks for the feedback gents! - Original Message - From: "Toby Thain" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 10:19:18 AM Subject: SCSI2SD for 50 pin - was Re: Macintosh Quadra 840AV On 2016-06-01 12:11

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Weiss
Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org > On Jun 1, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > > > > > Its possible that a low or bad battery may be causing problems if the TOY > chip is also was used to store a the bits of the Setup or other internal > status. > You said the settings are saved, but does

SCSI2SD for 50 pin - was Re: Macintosh Quadra 840AV

2016-06-01 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-06-01 12:11 PM, Cody Swanson wrote: I managed to pick up a Mac Quadra 840AV yesterday ... What is everyone doing for replacement 50 pin SCSI drives in their 90's hardware? Is there a reasonably priced flash based replacement yet? I remember looking into it a few years ago for my Sun IPX

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Weiss
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > > > > On 01/06/2016 14:39, Jerry Weiss wrote: >> >>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Rod Smallwood >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> OK from the beginning. >>> >>> 1.The 11/94 is housed in deep box located in a 42inch cabinet. It uses >>> a

Re: Macintosh Quadra 840AV

2016-06-01 Thread tim lindner
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Cody Swanson wrote: > What is everyone doing for replacement 50 pin SCSI drives in their 90's > hardware? Is there a reasonably > priced flash based replacement yet? I remember looking into it a few years > ago for my Sun IPX and the only > solutions I could find

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/06/2016 02:58, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Since we are moaning about real hardware, is there anything available these days that comes even close to the Logitech ergonomic three button mouse from the mid-late 1990s I suspect most people here still use the middle mouse button on a regular bas

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: > (They can be had for less in other places) > > The ball is roughly the size of a cue ball and it's got a nice feel > > to it. > > I'll venture that the ball in my CH DT225 *is* a standard billiards cue > ball. Eight ball rollin'! http://standalonecomplex

Re: Beehive B601 terminal

2016-06-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/01/2016 08:24 AM, tony duell wrote: > Does anyone know anything about this? Does anyone > have a service manual for it? Internally, it sounds about the same as the veneered and generated Super Bee from the early-mid 1970s. I don't see any manuals for it on bitsavers, however. --Chuck

Macintosh Quadra 840AV

2016-06-01 Thread Cody Swanson
I managed to pick up a Mac Quadra 840AV yesterday with an apple VGA monitor and Laser Writer II printer for $60 CAD (approximately $5 USD :-) off the local classifieds site. The pram battery had leaked pretty badly but seemed to only drip onto the internal RF shielding. After I cleaned everythin

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

2016-06-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/01/2016 07:18 AM, geneb wrote: > For trackballs, you can't beat the Kensington Trackball: > http://www.kensington.com/us/us/4493/k64325/expert-mouse-wired-trackball > (They can be had for less in other places) > The ball is roughly the size of a cue ball and it's got a nice feel > to it.

Re: Keyboards and Mice (was Model M, NEC ProSpeed)

2016-06-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/01/2016 01:49 AM, Christian Corti wrote: > How do you paste text then? And there are quite a few applications > that use the middle button to scroll the visible layer (e.g. gschem), > or to open a link in a new tab (e.g. Opera, Firefox); very > comfortable. I definitely need the middle butto

Re: Tek 4317 and/or Tek 4132

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Lancashire
3M cartridges can be either restored or the data read from them, about 15 years ago I took on a project to recover data from about 200 DC-300 cartridges. The key is test and remove/replace the elastomer band before using the cartridge. But if one does get the remains of the band all over the place

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:02 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: PDP-11/94-E Hi I'm trying to get my 11/94 running. Its a hybrid having both Q and Unibus. The CPU card has a KDJ11-E 18Mhz process

Beehive B601 terminal

2016-06-01 Thread tony duell
I am trying to empty my storage unit back to my house (to save money and becuase I have these old computers to play around with, not to store). One thing I brought home recently is an old (even on this list) CRT terminal. It claims to be a Beehive B601. I have no manuals for it at all. Inside is

Re: Star install disks

2016-06-01 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/31/16 1:53 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 5/31/16 1:38 PM, Jerry Wright wrote: > >> Don Maslin had most of them. I sent copies of mine to him and he sent >> copies of his to me. of coarse that a few years ago. >> > > They didn't survive to what was left in the storage locker. I just loo

Re: TI Professional Computer (TIPC) Service Manual?

2016-06-01 Thread David Gesswein
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 09:39:14PM -0400, David Gesswein wrote: > I didn't find them in the technical reference but did find a list in the > bios listing. If I read that correctly its interrupt or timers failed. > Should be LED ON OFF OFF. > Scan of bios listing here. Will try to get the tech ref

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

2016-06-01 Thread geneb
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Holm Tiffe wrote: I still use the Logitech 3-button "stationary mouse", ie. trackball. They are getting harder to find. For trackballs, you can't beat the Kensington Trackball: http://www.kensington.com/us/us/4493/k64325/expert-mouse-wired-trackball (They can be had for

Re: Tek 4317 and/or Tek 4132

2016-06-01 Thread Al Kossow
I was also wondering if you have any hardware documentation for the 4317. I'm curious how similar it is architecturally to the 4406 On 6/1/16 7:58 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 6/1/16 7:02 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: >> Both machines have had hard disk failures, so OS is gone. >> > > At this point

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 14:39, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: OK from the beginning. 1.The 11/94 is housed in deep box located in a 42inch cabinet. It uses a KDJ11-E Quad proc. board. 2.Two buses (Q and Uni) are housed in the one box and are linked by a

Re: Tek 4317 and/or Tek 4132

2016-06-01 Thread Al Kossow
On 6/1/16 7:02 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: > Both machines have had hard disk failures, so OS is gone. > At this point it may be worth digging into the drives to see if they can be fixed. I have had bits of a 4132 for a while, and haven't had any luck locating software.

Re: Keyboards and Mice (was Model M, NEC ProSpeed)

2016-06-01 Thread Liam Proven
On 1 June 2016 at 10:49, Christian Corti wrote: > > How do you paste text then? And there are quite a few applications that use > the middle button to scroll the visible layer (e.g. gschem), or to open a > link in a new tab (e.g. Opera, Firefox); very comfortable. > I definitely need the middle b

Re: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread Liam Proven
On 1 June 2016 at 00:16, Swift Griggs wrote: > I've never > known them to create "clackety" keyboards with mechanical switches But that's the point. This here Extended II has them, as did the Extended I before it. (I have one of them too, but I couldn't find it in my storage unit in London to bri

Re: vintage computers in active use

2016-06-01 Thread Holm Tiffe
Mouse wrote: > > I have used the following operating systems: [...] > > Now will somebody explain to me why windows is considered not good. > > There are, of course, almost as many answers to that as there are > people holding that opinion. > > My own answers? > > It's closed source. It appea

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

2016-06-01 Thread Holm Tiffe
geneb wrote: > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Jon Elson wrote: > > > On 05/31/2016 08:58 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >> Since we are moaning about real hardware, is there anything available > >> these > >> days that comes even close to the Logitech ergonomic three button mouse > >> from the mid-late 1

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

2016-06-01 Thread geneb
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Jon Elson wrote: On 05/31/2016 08:58 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Since we are moaning about real hardware, is there anything available these days that comes even close to the Logitech ergonomic three button mouse from the mid-late 1990s? The sculpted to fit in your hand m

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread geneb
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On May 31, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: I used one enough to have worn a visible depression in the space bar with my right thumb. I still have a few of the keyboards around. Another thing I love about the WASD keyboards. Because the le

Tek 4317 and/or Tek 4132

2016-06-01 Thread Rick Bensene
Hello, kind ClassicCMP denizens, I have two old Tektronix workstation machines. One is a Tektronix 4132. It is a pc-sized (a little less tall, a little deeper) unit that uses a National Semiconductor 32016 chip as the CPU. It's got a bunch of cards for RAM expansion, parallel and RS-232 ports

Re: Model M Key Cap Replacement WAS: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread geneb
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote: Unicomp still sells replacement caps ( http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons ), however I believe they have a minimum order amount (price). There are also the ever-so-hated keyboard forums where you can often post a "Looking for" and

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Weiss
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > > > OK from the beginning. > > 1.The 11/94 is housed in deep box located in a 42inch cabinet. It uses a > KDJ11-E Quad proc. board. > 2.Two buses (Q and Uni) are housed in the one box and are linked by a > special interface car

Re: PDP-11/94-E

2016-06-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/06/2016 01:10, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood > On switch on the console display comes up. Whilst it performs the same > functions as the one in the manual it looks different. Hmm. Does it seem like a DEC EPROM, or someone else's? The 11/84 (very similar CPU) h

Re: Keyboards and Mice (was Model M, NEC ProSpeed)

2016-06-01 Thread Christian Corti
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: 3-button, serial, RS232 ADB, USB and PS2. I can't recall ever needing to use or using the middle button a 3-button mouse. How do you paste text then? And there are quite a few applications that use the middle button to scroll the visible layer (e.g. gs

Re: DEC modules in a 4-slot backplane

2016-06-01 Thread Lionel Johnson
On 31/05/2016 5:42 AM, Adrian Graham wrote: Hi folks, Been rummaging in the garage for stuff I'll be exhibiting in the UK in July and found this: http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/LSI1123.JPG It's a 4-slot cage containing: M7270 11/03 CPU M7944 4K RAM (x2) M8027 LP11 There's a fault label on

Re: DEC modules in a 4-slot backplane

2016-06-01 Thread Adrian Graham
On 01/06/2016 07:38, "Lionel Johnson" wrote: >> M7270 11/03 CPU >> M7944 4K RAM (x2) >> M8027 LP11 >> >> There's a fault label on the M8027 saying it occasionally drops characters. >> Question is, anyone know what it was out of? >> >> Cheers! >> > When I worked on DEC gear we used a few 4-slot

Re: Classic keyboard (and fonts) (Was: NEC ProSpeed 386

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Lancashire
I think I'm using an M. The label was removed long ago. At home I have a couple of the version that came with an industrialized version that went with ditto rack mount PS/2 of some flavor. The company I worked at was buying around 20 a month and even though the product they went into never used the