Re: where I've landed

2016-03-13 Thread Rod Smallwood
With luck like that I think you shoud start doing the lottery~~ On 14/03/2016 05:43, CuriousMarc wrote: Awesome! Marc -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian S. King Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:08 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic

Re: Giving away Garage full of computers

2016-03-13 Thread James Vess
I just saw this, We're still working on getting the equipment from the guy. So far folks haven't really casted their requests due to the concern about equipment pickup so I may make a quick site to do first-come-first-serve or something once we have all the equip and can review it. I'm not sure w

Re: Giving away Garage full of computers

2016-03-13 Thread Mark Linimon
Have you gotten any takers yet? I have a special soft spot for those Printros. mcl

RE: where I've landed

2016-03-13 Thread CuriousMarc
Awesome! Marc -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian S. King Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:08 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: OT: where I've landed Hi all, I informed the list when I left the Living Comp

Re: A gold mine for anybody in Austin...

2016-03-13 Thread James Vess
Hey Ryan, Sounds good! I appreciate you reaching out. Once we have a better idea of how this is going to happen and if, I'm sure I'll be in touch. As always, once I have more information from the guy I'll pass it along. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Ryan Eisworth wrote: > > > On Mar 12, 20

Re: A gold mine for anybody in Austin...

2016-03-13 Thread Ryan Eisworth
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 10:25 PM, James Vess wrote: > > I'm in Houston and could make the trip, Anyone here interested in the > systems listed? > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Ali wrote: > >>> Unfortunately, I'm nowhere near Austin! But here is a great gold mine >>> for somebody local http

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 14 Mar 2016, dwight wrote: I don't recall how many heads a ST506 had. I have one on my NC4000, home brew, machine. I recall picking the drives up at garage sales because DOS no longer supported them, only being 5Meg. ftp://ftp.seagate.com/pub/techsuppt/mfm/st506.txt ftp://ftp.seagate.co

Re: A gold mine for anybody in Austin...

2016-03-13 Thread Mark Linimon
Fortunately or unfortunately I am away from Austin right now or I would go take a look. mcl

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread dwight
I don't recall how many heads a ST506 had. I have one on my NC4000, home brew, machine. I recall picking the drives up at garage sales because DOS no longer supported them, only being 5Meg. Next time I at my storage, I can being my machine home and power it up. I suspect it has the setup informatio

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 03/13/2016 03:02 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On the other hand, I'm told that in mass production it is extremely uncommon for a side of a disk platter to have more than the allowable number of defects, so it seems more likely that a downspec hard drive would simply have fewer platters (and heads, e

Re: A gold mine for anybody in Austin...

2016-03-13 Thread James Vess
Probably true, but it's a weekend and I have time to deal with it so we will just see how it goes, I have some hope but low expectations. On Sunday, March 13, 2016, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > > Chances are, you'll waste a lot of your time dealing with nothing but > trepidation, and get nowhere wi

RE: A gold mine for anybody in Austin...

2016-03-13 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of > j...@cimmeri.com > Sent: 13 March 2016 23:28 > To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts > Subject: Re: A gold mine for anybody in Austin... > > > Chanc

Re: A gold mine for anybody in Austin...

2016-03-13 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
Chances are, you'll waste a lot of your time dealing with nothing but trepidation, and get nowhere with what is probably NOT a gold mine.. but a hoarder junk mine. Seriously, who writes meandering, confused ads like that, that don't even state what they have and prices? You'll very often see

Re: Sun 4/260

2016-03-13 Thread James Vess
I'm leery of picking up any boards until I have a unit because I don't want them just gathering dust at my place, however let me know the situation if it's a good idea to wait or not. I'm in Houston by the 610/290 split. On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: > Were are you located.

Re: Mainframe floating point math implementation.

2016-03-13 Thread Charles Anthony
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Lawrence Wilkinson wrote: > I haven't gone through your code in great detail. In particular I'm > not sure what your rounding algorithm is (towards zero, round to > nearest, etc.) I don't see what you're using the guard bit for, I > would expect it to be appended

Re: Sun 4/260

2016-03-13 Thread James Vess
Haha! Thanks man! On Sunday, March 13, 2016, geneb wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2016, James Vess wrote: > > I honestly am a bit surprised, as other dealings I've had with groups that >> focus on technology typically are not as welcoming or responsive. >> >> You caught us on a good day. I'm sure you'

Re: A gold mine for anybody in Austin...

2016-03-13 Thread James Vess
Good call! He responded to me and I could hear his trepidation, so this is spot on. I let him know it would be going to folks who would be taking care of them or they'd be in storage at my place. So, we'll see if he'll let them go and if not that's cool. I completely understand as I did something

Re: Mainframe floating point math implementation.

2016-03-13 Thread Charles Anthony
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > They may effectively have a "sticky" bit, similar to that used in IEEE > 754 FP. A sticky bit is used when shifting an operand right; if any > one bits are shifted into the stick bit position, the sticky bit > becomes 1, but shifting a zero in

Re: Mainframe floating point math implementation.

2016-03-13 Thread Eric Smith
They may effectively have a "sticky" bit, similar to that used in IEEE 754 FP. A sticky bit is used when shifting an operand right; if any one bits are shifted into the stick bit position, the sticky bit becomes 1, but shifting a zero into it does not clear it to zero. IEEE 754 uses the sticky bit

Re: Mainframe floating point math implementation.

2016-03-13 Thread Lawrence Wilkinson
I haven't gone through your code in great detail. In particular I'm not sure what your rounding algorithm is (towards zero, round to nearest, etc.) I don't see what you're using the guard bit for, I would expect it to be appended to the mantissa prior to addition and rounding. Whether that's signi

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Fred Cisin
Is that "3MB" FORMATTED, or UNFORMATTED capacity? "10MB" (ST412) was 12MB unformatted, with 306 cylinders and 4 heads. "5MB" (ST406) was 6MB unformatted, with 306 cylinders and 2 heads. or was it (St506?) 153 cylinders with 4 heads? In any case, using half as many heads/surfaces would create

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: > Assuming for the moment that there were completely disabled surfaces > involved due to too many defects (i.e. that this was a 2-platter drive with > only one or maybe two active surfaces and the rest mapped out by the drive > firmware), do

PDP-11/23 Troubles Again

2016-03-13 Thread Ben Sinclair
In the previous episode, I was trying to get my M8013 and M8014 RL02 controller pair to pass the diskless controller test, and discovered it had some sort of stuck bit. Repairing that seemed a little out of my scope, so I recently found an M8061, and I tried to give it another go today. However, m

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Jules Richardson
On 03/13/2016 03:12 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 03/13/2016 12:38 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: These 3MB ones were definitely Olivetti - this was from an ex-Acorn employee who worked on the drive project. 3MB to 20MB seems a big jump - but it makes me wonder if they were working with drives that ha

Mainframe floating point math implementation.

2016-03-13 Thread Charles Anthony
The Multics distribution includes ISOLTS, a surprisingly complete and pedantic processor test program. It is unhappy with our emulated floating point. This should be the floating point used by the GE 6xx series and the Honeywell DPS8 and 6000 series. There is one particular failure that I am dri

Re: Honneywell multics? from panels. the inline phots in this message folks -smecc

2016-03-13 Thread Charles Anthony
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Michael Thompson < michael.99.thomp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:27:18 -0800 > > From: Charles Anthony > > Subject: Re: Honneywell multics? from panels. the inline phots in this > > message folks -smecc > > > > The panels labeled

Re: DEC RK05 Emergency Retract Batteries

2016-03-13 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 13/03/2016 15:00, Michael Thompson wrote: The NiCad batteries for emergency head retract are toast. These look like standard 1.2V 2/3AA 400mAh cells. It looks like some cordless phones use the same batteries so I can buy an assembled 4.8V battery pack. That's what I've always done. Any ot

Why the National Archives needs punch-card readers (Fwd by SMECC)

2016-03-13 Thread COURYHOUSE
Scruffy Millennials covet old record players because they dig the format; the National Archives and Records Administration keeps old file players around because legacy digital data demand them. "I am preserving every file format that has ever existed on the web, or that any of you have ev

Re: Honneywell multics? from panels. the inline phots in this message folks -smecc

2016-03-13 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:27:18 -0800 > From: Charles Anthony > Subject: Re: Honneywell multics? from panels. the inline phots in this > message folks -smecc > > The panels labeled IOM are Input Output Managers; they connected the SCUs > to peripheral devices; also sometimes 'IOP' (Inp

Re: Sun 4/260

2016-03-13 Thread Pete Lancashire
Were are you located. I may still have the VME boards from the 260 that where saved from a 260 that had been scrapped -pete On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:56 AM, James Vess wrote: > Howdy there folks, > > I've been kicking myself for giving away a dying Sun4/260 due to space > issues and moving abo

DEC RK05 Emergency Retract Batteries

2016-03-13 Thread Michael Thompson
We started working on the RK05 drive that is part of the PDP-12 at the RICM. The drve is very clean and in good condition. It will need new seals between the blower and the card cage, and between the plenum and the disk pack. I think that 1/2" and 1/4" weatherstrip from Home Depot will work fine.

RE: DEC RK05 Emergency Retract Batteries

2016-03-13 Thread Rick Bensene
Michael Thompson wrote: > > The NiCad batteries for emergency head retract are toast. These look like > standard 1.2V 2/3AA 400mAh cells. It looks like some cordless phones use the > same batteries so I can buy an assembled 4.8V battery pack. > > Any other suggestions for replacement batteries fo

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 03/13/2016 12:38 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: These 3MB ones were definitely Olivetti - this was from an ex-Acorn employee who worked on the drive project. 3MB to 20MB seems a big jump - but it makes me wonder if they were working with drives that had three surfaces masked out due to manufactu

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Jules Richardson
On 03/13/2016 01:15 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: Hard drives smaller than 5MB were not unusual. For example, the Rodime RO-101 was only 3MB. Interesting... I've had 'real' ST506's before, but I don't think I've ever seen or heard of anything less than that (in a 5.25" f/f) My list shows Olivetti

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

2016-03-13 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 13/03/2016 18:11, Richard Cini wrote: To close this out, I want to report that with Malcolm’s and Mattis’ help, I was able to get RT-11 v4 and v5.03 running on the H-11 using the TU58 emulator. Thanks to all who helped push me along on this. I did create a separate Heath page on my Web sit

Re: Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 03/13/2016 10:28 AM, Jules Richardson wrote: Does anyone recall an Olivetti ST506-interface drive with a colossal 3MB capacity? Apparently a full-height 5.25" unit with 4 heads and two platters. I'm just curious; I always thought that capacities either equaled or surpassed the 5MB of Seagat

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

2016-03-13 Thread Richard Cini
All — To close this out, I want to report that with Malcolm’s and Mattis’ help, I was able to get RT-11 v4 and v5.03 running on the H-11 using the TU58 emulator. Avoiding the gory details, the upshot is that there was a bus interrupt issue relating to how the cards were instal

Olivetti 3MB ST506-interface drive?

2016-03-13 Thread Jules Richardson
Does anyone recall an Olivetti ST506-interface drive with a colossal 3MB capacity? Apparently a full-height 5.25" unit with 4 heads and two platters. I'm just curious; I always thought that capacities either equaled or surpassed the 5MB of Seagate's ST506 after they introduced it, so I was a

RE: Introduction and Alpha Micro AM-1200 query

2016-03-13 Thread Jay West
Ross; Welcome aboard, glad to have you here. Additional datapoints for you - In a previous life I owned a Pick-based consulting firm. Our focus was on our in-house written software packages but we always sold pick-based hardware as well. Over many years of operation as the personal relationsh

Re: A gold mine for anybody in Austin...

2016-03-13 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Mar 12, 2016 10:25 PM, "James Vess" wrote: > > I'm in Houston and could make the trip, Anyone here interested in the > systems listed? > > I would need to see enough interest to go do it though, as even though I'd > love to get these and just play with them, but I wouldn't be able to keep > the

Re: Sun 4/260

2016-03-13 Thread geneb
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016, James Vess wrote: I honestly am a bit surprised, as other dealings I've had with groups that focus on technology typically are not as welcoming or responsive. You caught us on a good day. I'm sure you'll get yelled at next week. Welcome to the zoo. :) g. -- Proud owne

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

2016-03-13 Thread Richard Cini
That's an awesome find Don, thanks! Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Don North wrote: > > Ok, filed as: https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/285 > >> On 3/12/2016 11:14 PM, Don North wrote: >> Fixed! >> >> sim> set cpu 11/34 256K fpp >> sim> set tdc enable >> sim> attac

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

2016-03-13 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-03-13 8:23 GMT+01:00 Don North : > Ok, filed as: https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/285 > > > On 3/12/2016 11:14 PM, Don North wrote: > >> Fixed! >> >> sim> set cpu 11/34 256K fpp >> sim> set tdc enable >> sim> attach tdc0 tu58.dsk >> sim> b tdc0 >> >> BOOTING UP XXDP-XM EXTENDED MONITOR >>

Re: Apple Disk II

2016-03-13 Thread Peter Chatt
£25 to £35, which is pretty much the same as the sale price. > On 13 Mar 2016, at 09:25, James Vess wrote: > > Hey Peter, > > Out of curiosity, How much is it coming from the US to your location? > > Thanks, > James > >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Peter Chatt wrote: >> >> Hi, Dose any

Re: Apple Disk II

2016-03-13 Thread James Vess
Hey Peter, Out of curiosity, How much is it coming from the US to your location? Thanks, James On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Peter Chatt wrote: > Hi, Dose anybody have a reasonably priced Apple Disk II drive and > controller card in the uk? The shipping costs from the US are a too much. >

Apple Disk II

2016-03-13 Thread Peter Chatt
Hi, Dose anybody have a reasonably priced Apple Disk II drive and controller card in the uk? The shipping costs from the US are a too much. Thanks