Re: QNX - was Re: Minix 3 vs portability

2016-02-24 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-02-25 0:05 GMT+01:00 John Wallace : > [snippage for brevity, sorry] > > Some readers may remember (but most won't) that in 1999, QNX released a > freely distributable demo containing their QNX kernel, their Photon > MicroGui, an IP stack including Internet connectivity capability, and a > gra

Re: AIX Dev CD

2016-02-24 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Benjamin Huntsman wrote: > By any strange chance, does anyone have a really old 2-CD set called > "Software Development Solutions for AIX Version 4", Fifth Edition? I guess > they were fairly common at one point. If anyone has one they can spare, I'll > pay...

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Richard Loken
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: My brain is cooked. I left AU in the fall of 1991, no? At that time I was pretty sure the 8650 was still in play. I'm sure I would have remembered the Digital Road Crew showing up with a semi-trailer full of new hardware. You have forgotten at

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Richard Loken wrote: > >AU purchased an 8600 some time around 1985? >The 8600 was upgraded in place to an 8650 >The 8650 was traded in on an 8820 for $1.2 million >Some time in the very late 80s a VAX 4000-300 was purchased >Circa 1990 the 8820

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Richard Loken
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, william degnan wrote: How does one send mail INBOUND to this kind of VAX mail from a modern email like gmail? Is it possible to format the header somehow to get the message through? You can't simply send a message to Perhaps VMS cannot reach your mailbox? In another mes

Re: R: QNX - was Re: Minix 3 vs portability

2016-02-24 Thread Ian S. King
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 02/24/2016 03:43 PM, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: > >> I do remember, and I had (still have) that floppy. I've also tried >> the full qnx, and it's the best thing I ever tried, likely >> > > There were actually a couple of versions of this. O

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Richard Loken
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Good grief, Charlie Brown! AllIn1 had it's own Bitnet-style routing syntax on VMS? I am so glad I never knew that. I don't remember the details of all-in-one at all. It is possible that all-in-one just used the standard VMS mailbox but I do not r

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Richard Loken wrote: > > Multinet has an SMTP listener and it expects standard SMTP addresses. > If you cannot deliver such an address locally then you must look at how > you have configured the Multinet email server, if you want to forward > to a decnet only machi

AIX Dev CD

2016-02-24 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
By any strange chance, does anyone have a really old 2-CD set called "Software Development Solutions for AIX Version 4", Fifth Edition? I guess they were fairly common at one point. If anyone has one they can spare, I'll pay... Thanks! -Ben

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Richard Loken
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, william degnan wrote: Assuming I want to send an email message to an older VAX server (Process Software MultiNet V4.1 Rev A, MicroVAX 3100, VAX/VMS V5.5-2 ) that requires one to format their OUTBOUND emails like this: To: SMTP%"b...@myemail.net" How does one send mail INBO

Re: R: QNX - was Re: Minix 3 vs portability

2016-02-24 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 02/24/2016 03:43 PM, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: I do remember, and I had (still have) that floppy. I've also tried the full qnx, and it's the best thing I ever tried, likely There were actually a couple of versions of this. One with NIC support and another with modem support. There was app

R: QNX - was Re: Minix 3 vs portability

2016-02-24 Thread Mazzini Alessandro
I do remember, and I had (still have) that floppy. I've also tried the full qnx, and it's the best thing I ever tried, likely -Messaggio originale- Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di John Wallace Inviato: giovedì 25 febbraio 2016 00:05 A: cctalk@classiccmp.org O

Re: QNX - was Re: Minix 3 vs portability

2016-02-24 Thread John Wallace
[snippage for brevity, sorry] Some readers may remember (but most won't) that in 1999, QNX released a freely distributable demo containing their QNX kernel, their Photon MicroGui, an IP stack including Internet connectivity capability, and a graphical web browser which even does JavaScript. So

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Anderson
The 11/05 and 11/10, or whatever you want to call them are rather unique. I believe they are the only cpu in the PDP11 family with the slu built onto the cpu boards, and have the the same cpu, M7260 and M7261, use about 6 different backplanes, most of then listed in the Unibus Troubleshooting Guide

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

2016-02-24 Thread Don North
On 2/24/2016 1:11 PM, Mike Ross wrote: Why are you using MRSP mode (-m switch)? Do you know that is absolutely required? For VAX-11/730 console yes it is absolutely required as far as I know; everything I've read about people using emulation there says that it is. Mike Yes it appears that is

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread william degnan
> > >> > >> > With the /05 being the OEM machine, and the /10 end user one, we (and >> DEC) >> > seem to have picked the OEM variant in one as the 'canonical' model, >> and in >> > the other, the end-user variant. >> >> Interesting point. FWIW, I have always heard 11/05 and 11/40 >> respectively.

Re: Offer: HP 1611A logic state analyser with option A80 for 8080 microprocessors

2016-02-24 Thread Michael Fritsch
Oh sorry, it was not intended that this reply goes to the list. Micha Michael Fritsch wrote: Hat er außer dem 8080-Adapter nur die eine 8-Kanal-Probe dabei? Das ist ein bischen wenig.

Re: Offer: HP 1611A logic state analyser with option A80 for 8080 microprocessors

2016-02-24 Thread Michael Fritsch
Hat er außer dem 8080-Adapter nur die eine 8-Kanal-Probe dabei? Das ist ein bischen wenig. Holz, Andreas wrote: Peter, entschuldige bitte die vorherige Leermail. Ich habe zwar bereits einen solchen, bin jedoch an einem weiteren interessiert. Biete EUR 50,-, den Betrag, den ich für meinen Er

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

2016-02-24 Thread Mike Ross
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Don North wrote: > On 2/24/2016 3:43 AM, Mike Ross wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote: > Actually I do have a Ma

Re: Offer: HP 1611A logic state analyser with option A80 for 8080 microprocessors

2016-02-24 Thread Holz, Andreas
Peter, entschuldige bitte die vorherige Leermail. Ich habe zwar bereits einen solchen, bin jedoch an einem weiteren interessiert. Biete EUR 50,-, den Betrag, den ich für meinen Ersten bezahlt hatte. Ich würde ihn im April abholen, da ich am 7.4 einen Termin in Bad Neuenahr wahrnehmen werde. -

Re: Offer: HP 1611A logic state analyser with option A80 for 8080 microprocessors

2016-02-24 Thread Holz, Andreas
> Am 24.02.2016 um 10:18 schrieb P Gebhardt : > > Hello list, > > I've had this HP logic state analyzer for many years now, but never found > actual use for it and thus never used it. So I decided that a new home would > be more suitable for it. The analyzer comes with the option to debug and

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Feb 24, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Noel Chiappa > wrote: > > > > So, what's the best short name for the pair of machines, the PDP-11/05 > and > > PDP-11/10 (which differ only in the nameplate)? > > > > I have generally been calling them the '11

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

2016-02-24 Thread Don North
On 2/24/2016 3:43 AM, Mike Ross wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote: Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me a favour and throw a prebuilt OSX

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > So, what's the best short name for the pair of machines, the PDP-11/05 and > PDP-11/10 (which differ only in the nameplate)? > > I have generally been calling them the '11/05's, since that's what's on many > of the extant drawings, manuals,

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

2016-02-24 Thread jwsmobile
On 2/24/2016 10:59 AM, Eric Smith wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:52 PM, jwsmobile wrote: For serial I use a Saleae 8 bit analyzer. [...] You do have to use a level shifter with the thing because it is designed for 3.3v logic and needs to be adjusted accordingly. The Saleae Logic Pro 16 (

Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread Noel Chiappa
So, what's the best short name for the pair of machines, the PDP-11/05 and PDP-11/10 (which differ only in the nameplate)? I have generally been calling them the '11/05's, since that's what's on many of the extant drawings, manuals, etc - and DEC seems to prefer the '05' in manual ID's, even when

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

2016-02-24 Thread Eric Smith
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:52 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > For serial I use a Saleae 8 bit analyzer. [...] > You do have to use a level shifter with the thing because it is designed for > 3.3v logic and needs to be adjusted accordingly. The Saleae Logic Pro 16 (and probably the Logic Pro 8, but I haven'

Re: Wes Clark died yesterday

2016-02-24 Thread Evan Koblentz
Now I'm triply bummed that he was sick, and didn't manage to make it to the last VCF East. If it's any consolation, Wes backed out a few weeks before the show. His pinch-hitter was Brian Kernighan. He was one of the giants - somewhat unsung, but a giant. Exactly.

RE: Dumb Terminal games (was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine)

2016-02-24 Thread Bob Brown
A big favorite around our campus was Conquest (multi player space battle) on a vax. -Bob -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ethan Dicks Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:23 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject:

Re: Minix 3 vs portability - was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine

2016-02-24 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 February 2016 at 16:46, Toby Thain wrote: > So where does QNX come in? Isn't that embedded rather than > desktop/laptop/tablet? It's also the basis of Blackberry 10, the OS on my Passport. There is a desktop version -- I wrote about it a few years ago: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11

Re: Minix 3 vs portability - was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine

2016-02-24 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 February 2016 at 20:15, Charles Anthony wrote: > > And let us not forget the wombat, beloved of the VMS RDBMS. > > "PLOT WOMBAT" I remember discovering WOMBAT in the Help command for RDB, and sitting there, increasingly bemused, exploring the various options within HELP WOMBAT... wondering

Re: Minix 3 vs portability - was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine

2016-02-24 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 February 2016 at 23:41, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > Are you sure? I've seen plenty of Freescale cores going pretty low as > far as power consumption goes, like their whole e200 line to start from > the very low end, but there's also e6500 for example if you want 64 bits > and more process

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread william degnan
I am confident DNS is set up correctly. I have another vax server sitting next to the microvax3100 that is using a diff. subdomain on vintagecomputer.net and this vax sends and receives mail without issue. The only diff between the 3100 and the other vax server is the other is running a newer ver

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

2016-02-24 Thread Mike Ross
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: >> >>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote: >>> Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me >>> a favour and throw a prebuilt OSX binary somewhere I can gr

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > How does one send mail INBOUND to this kind of VAX mail from a modern email > > like gmail? Is it possible to format the header somehow to get the message > > through? You can't simply send a message to > > > > sys...@microvax3100.vintagecomputer.net > > > > how would I format the email ad

Re: Who, on this list, Owns / Collects / Plays with an HP1000 A or L series ??

2016-02-24 Thread COURYHOUSE
We will be up for getting one to round out the HP display here When I was in the biz they were out there but we did not sell any parts for them, I remember some developer friends complaining that the A version of RTE version of the os did not have SESSION Let us know if yo

Offer: HP 1611A logic state analyser with option A80 for 8080 microprocessors

2016-02-24 Thread P Gebhardt
Hello list, I've had this HP logic state analyzer for many years now, but never found actual use for it and thus never used it. So I decided that a new home would be more suitable for it. The analyzer comes with the option to debug and analyze 8080 microporcessors. Probes are provided, but no m

Fleet Sheet 2+ 1990

2016-02-24 Thread Mike
On 02/23/2016 07:51 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> I'm occasionally called on to transfer some of the C64 floppies. I have a >> 1571 and have cobbled up the XM interface connected to a DB25F permanently >> mounted on the drive. That way, I

Re: NeWS video(s) with James Gosling?

2016-02-24 Thread Mike
On 02/23/2016 04:46 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: > deo(s) when I get home, but > it's been dead for a long time now. That would be fun to watch!

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Guy Dawson
A quick surf and I see that MultiNet is a TCP/IP and associated utilities stack for VAX/VMS. So, I assume your VAX has TCP/IP connectivity to a bigger network ( vintagecomputer.net) and you can ping to and from the VAX. Is an SMTP server running on the VAX? If so, from the bigger network can you

Re: PDP-11/20 vd one that just says pdp 11 what are the date differences?? OEM?

2016-02-24 Thread william degnan
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Michael Thompson < michael.99.thomp...@gmail.com> wrote: > The PDP-11 at the RICM says "dec pdp 11" on the system configuration paper > label on the back, and "M11 15" and "4720" on the metal tag. Unfortunately > it has an OEM front panel. > > -- > Michael Thompson

Re: Who, on this list, Owns / Collects / Plays with an HP1000 A or L series ??

2016-02-24 Thread brian
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 23:48:52 +0100, you wrote: > >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- >> Van: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] Namens Jay West >> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 februari 2016 21:09 >> Aan: 'GerardCJAT'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' >> Onderwerp: RE: Who, on this list, Own

RE: Who, on this list, Owns / Collects / Plays with an HP1000 A or L series ??

2016-02-24 Thread Rik Bos
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] Namens Jay West > Verzonden: dinsdag 23 februari 2016 21:09 > Aan: 'GerardCJAT'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' > Onderwerp: RE: Who, on this list, Owns / Collects / Plays with an HP1000 A or L > series

Re: PDP-11/20 vd one that just says pdp 11 what are the date differences?? OEM?

2016-02-24 Thread Michael Thompson
The PDP-11 at the RICM says "dec pdp 11" on the system configuration paper label on the back, and "M11 15" and "4720" on the metal tag. Unfortunately it has an OEM front panel. -- Michael Thompson

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > Assuming I want to send an email message to an older VAX server (Process > Software MultiNet V4.1 Rev A, MicroVAX 3100, VAX/VMS V5.5-2 ) that requires > one to format their OUTBOUND emails like this: > > To: SMTP%"b...@myemail.net" > > How does one send mail INBOUND to this kind of VAX mail fro

Re: Who, on this list, Owns / Collects / Plays with an HP1000 A or L series ??

2016-02-24 Thread Glen Slick
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:43 AM, GerardCJAT wrote: > Just curious. > It seems ( at first ) that most collections stops at 21MX ( M/E/F ) era. > Am I correct in my view ? I have an HP 1000 A900, the second fastest A Series after the A990. I need to get RTE-A running on it sometime. I also have a

RE: Who, on this list, Owns / Collects / Plays with an HP1000 A or L series ??

2016-02-24 Thread Jay West
GerardCJAT wrote... --- It seems ( at first ) that most collections stops at 21MX ( M/E/F ) era. Am I correct in my view ? --- Not to minimize those that love the A/L stuff but I suspect you are correct in general terms, statistically. But I do know there are some folks lurking t

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 23, 2016, at 1:46 PM, william degnan wrote: > > Assuming I want to send an email message to an older VAX server (Process > Software MultiNet V4.1 Rev A, MicroVAX 3100, VAX/VMS V5.5-2 ) that requires > one to format their OUTBOUND emails like this: > > To: SMTP%"b...@myemail.net" > > H

OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

2016-02-24 Thread william degnan
Assuming I want to send an email message to an older VAX server (Process Software MultiNet V4.1 Rev A, MicroVAX 3100, VAX/VMS V5.5-2 ) that requires one to format their OUTBOUND emails like this: To: SMTP%"b...@myemail.net" How does one send mail INBOUND to this kind of VAX mail from a modern ema

Re: VMS 5.5 and multinet 4.1 SMTP Question

2016-02-24 Thread william degnan
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Peter Coghlan wrote: > > > > Thanks for your reply. My error I meant send email to > > sys...@microvax3100.vintagecomputer.net > > > > Multinet is an excellent TCP/IP stack but the SMTP server included with it > is a bit limited and V4.1 is old. If you allow it

Who, on this list, Owns / Collects / Plays with an HP1000 A or L series ??

2016-02-24 Thread GerardCJAT
Just curious. It seems ( at first ) that most collections stops at 21MX ( M/E/F ) era. Am I correct in my view ?