Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread John Blake
Vetusware is highly unreliable and tries to charge for accounts, which isn't worth it at all because most of the things I've gotten from there haven't worked. Try: https://winworldpc.com/library Their images are tested, I've used the OS/2 Warp 4 images to install on an old thinkpad 760. I'd

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread Mark J. Blair
I tried the touch screen again. This time the mouse remained working, and it's kind of usable-ish after running the CALIBRAT.EXE utility. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread Mark J. Blair
I finally managed to get OS/2 Warp Connect 3.0 installed after a few tries. I think that messing with the SCSI2SD settings fixed things. My best guess is that with the default settings the BIOS code could access the drive, but once OS/2 switched over to its own drivers part way through the insta

HP 9845 Option ROMs

2016-01-27 Thread John Ball
So in the past few weeks I've been playing with my latest aquisition, an HP 9845A that's been upgraded at some point to a 9845B. The filter caps for the PSU are in the mail still and I have yet to actually see the system turn on so I've been working on other projects in the meantime like cleaning t

Re: M. Minsky - AI & Classic Computing

2016-01-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/27/2016 11:24 AM, Murray McCullough wrote: I learned today of the passing of a true computing visionary, Marvin Minsky He of artificial intelligence fame. We in the classic computing fraternity, and computing in general, can enjoy our ‘hobby’ because of his work. Yup, sad day! Jon

Re: Substituting DSHD for DSDD disks (or DS2D if you prefer)

2016-01-27 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/27/2016 02:07 PM, Eric Smith wrote: The double-density RX02 data fields are in a modifed MFM, which is what M2FM or MMFM stands for. It doesn't use the same encoding rules as are most commonly used for M2FM, though. ...and that was exactly my objection. This becomes a case of the Monty

Re: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

2016-01-27 Thread Eric Smith
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Rik Bos wrote: > Basic 6.2 is also on the site and can be run from flop. I was only able to find a download for BASIC 6.2 for the "Measurement Coprocessor" for the AT bus, which required its own special version, not compatible with normal Series 200/300.

Re: Substituting DSHD for DSDD disks (or DS2D if you prefer)

2016-01-27 Thread Eric Smith
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > That's exactly what I was asking. But you implied that the RX02 was MMFM, > which, in my experience is not the case. The double-density RX02 data fields are in a modifed MFM, which is what M2FM or MMFM stands for. It doesn't use the same enc

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Oltmans
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:14 PM, John Willis wrote: > everything-is-plaintext philosophy. IMO, NT offers a better kernel than > OS/2, > but nothing has ever matched the elegance and sheer power of the Workplace > Shell as a graphical abstraction. > Hmmm... agree to disagree I guess. I generally

Re: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > Sure. I've been on the support end of selling through-hole kits, but > I wouldn't want to have to support SMD kits. I have bought and > assembled many kits with SMD parts and have enjoyed success, but not > everyone's builds go smoothly (a

Re: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > >> On Jan 27, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: >> >> If you do bare boards (no connectors), I'd probably be interested in >> several sets. > > I offer parts kits as a convenience not as a requirement. The big costs > are just getting t

Re: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > If you do bare boards (no connectors), I'd probably be interested in > several sets. If you need to supply board connectors to keep your > volume up, I'll probably still be interested but perhaps not quite as > many sets. > I offer parts

Re: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: >> On Jan 27, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: >> I just did some pricing and 60-way cable is a touch pricey. Through >> cable surplus vendors, I saw one quote of $1.33/ft... > > I just ran some numbers (Digikey*, so YMMV) and here’s what

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 1/27/2016 1:14 PM, John Willis wrote: Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn't NT a descendent of DEC VMS? As I understand it - an important caveat here - Windows NT was to some extent a conceptual descendent of VMS, but that was more because the same person was i

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread Fred Cisin
Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn't NT a descendent of DEC VMS? On Wed, 27 Jan 2016, Mouse wrote: As I understand it - an important caveat here - Windows NT was to some extent a conceptual descendent of VMS, but that was more because the same person was instrument

Re: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > >>> >> >> Practically, I would not want to use 60 way connectors and cable. They are >> not as easy to get as the 40 way ones. > > I just did some pricing and 60-way cable is a touch pricey. Through > cable surplus vendors, I saw one quote

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread John Willis
> > > Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn't > > NT a descendent of DEC VMS? > > As I understand it - an important caveat here - Windows NT was to some > extent a conceptual descendent of VMS, but that was more because the > same person was instrumental in designing bot

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread Mouse
> Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn't > NT a descendent of DEC VMS? As I understand it - an important caveat here - Windows NT was to some extent a conceptual descendent of VMS, but that was more because the same person was instrumental in designing both than becaus

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 1/27/2016 8:42 AM, Liam Proven wrote: I actually bought OS/2 with my own money. I was always extremely averse to doing that. It was good for its time, but NT 3.x was technically superior, just lacking in the UI department. Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn

M. Minsky - AI & Classic Computing

2016-01-27 Thread Murray McCullough
I learned today of the passing of a true computing visionary, Marvin Minsky He of artificial intelligence fame. We in the classic computing fraternity, and computing in general, can enjoy our ‘hobby’ because of his work. Happy computing Murray :)

Re: Substituting DSHD for DSDD disks (or DS2D if you prefer)

2016-01-27 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/26/2016 09:07 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: You've lost me there. Both HP and Intel were true MMFM; There's more to it than the basic channel code. IBM 3740 and Ohio Scientific 8-inch both use "true FM" for the channel code, but they aren't

Re: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:06 AM, tony duell wrote: > DEC (also?) made a board that brought the Unibus out on 3 40-way > cahles. I don't know that I've seen that exact one, but it sounds like something they would have done. > I have removed that from my 11/730 as I just want a single-cabinet sys

RE: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread tony duell
> > Considering DEC did something like this for the DWBUA, but with 4 > 30-pin cables (by necessity because of the BI backplane), is 2x60 pins DEC (also?) made a board that brought the Unibus out on 3 40-way cahles. The 11/730 I am restoring originally had a Unibus expansion cabinet, and the arra

RE: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread Paul Birkel
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:08 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: BC11A paddle boards > From: Guy Sotomayor > I was originally t

Re: BC11A paddle boards

2016-01-27 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Guy Sotomayor > I was originally thinking twisted pair ribbon cable until I saw what > 100' spool of that would run and decided to try just the straight > "grey" ribbon cable for now. That should be fine; the DEC M9042 board (basically equivalent) used three H854 flat cabl

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread Liam Proven
On 27 January 2016 at 07:18, Mark J. Blair wrote: > That XDFCOPY.EXE from the BonusPak ISO also has the same issue under MS-DOS > 6.22 on the PS/2. However, I got an OS/2 prompt from the first two floppies > of the OS/2 Warp Connect 3.0 set (which are regular 1.44M floppies), and then > I can C

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

2016-01-27 Thread Liam Proven
On 26 January 2016 at 17:24, Mark J. Blair wrote: > That site looks a bit more challenging for an English-only speaker. :) Maybe > google translate can help me find my way around... yeah, much better now. > Thanks for the links! Yes, it certainly is. I live in the Czech Republic, but I don't sp

Re: Substituting DSHD for DSDD disks (or DS2D if you prefer)

2016-01-27 Thread Christian Corti
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: So did Intel on the MDS. I don't recall if there was any significant difference between Intel and HP MMFM encoding, however. The initial CRC value ($ vs. $) and the header (six vs. four bytes) are different, but the encoding was quite identical.

email problems

2016-01-27 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi If you have sent me an off list email in the last couple of days and have not got a response. - Apologies It seems I am loosing some but not all inbound email - ISP trying to fix it Rod Smallwood