Re: In Memoriam: Gene Amdahl 1922-2015

this wound up in my spam box On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Christian Liendo < christian_lie...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > http://m.cacm.acm.org/news/194192-in-memoriam-gene-amdahl-1922-2015/fulltext > > > Gene Amdahl, who formulated Amdahl's Law and worked with IBM and others on > development

Re: To Al Kossow at bitsavers

Naturally, Internet Archive will gladly host the files in any form. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Jay West wrote: > I think bitsavers is the best spot for that type of thing. > > But if for whatever reason Al doesn't wish to, I'd be happy to put them at: > > http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/

Re: new message

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:25:58 -0600 "Jay West" wrote: > Apologies, not sure how that got through. > > Maybe a listmember got address-book-malware. Will see if the headers reveal > anything that is easy to spot. I'm a member of spamcop and submitted all of the spam posts to spamcop (since becomi

RE: To Al Kossow at bitsavers

I think bitsavers is the best spot for that type of thing. But if for whatever reason Al doesn't wish to, I'd be happy to put them at: http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/ in the RT11 directory. There are already files and distributions of interest there. J

To Al Kossow at bitsavers

I sent the following post to Al on November 10th at 9:22 P.M. EST. Al did not reply or I did not see his reply, so I presume that he is just ignoring my request although Al did ask Jay Jaeger to respond. Al, if you have changed your mind, please reply with the name of the incoming directory as a

Re: Fw: new message

>Jay West wrote: Apologies, not sure how that got through. Maybe a listmember got address-book-malware. Will see if the headers reveal anything that is easy to spot. So few get through that the VERY rare exception is a credit to your diligence and choice of a great filter. And as many of us

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

On 11/12/15 4:00 PM, Mouse wrote: However, I _think_ some old Sun and MicroVAX machines play in that space; I've seen Qbus hardware that talks to drives with card-edge connectors and I've seen SCSI-to-cardedge interfaces on Suns of Sun-3/260 vintage. I don't know the details of ST506, ESDI, and

RE: Fw: new message

Apologies, not sure how that got through. Maybe a listmember got address-book-malware. Will see if the headers reveal anything that is easy to spot. J

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

>Eric Christopherson wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2015, Jules Richardson wrote: As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options exist) I'm n

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Mouse wrote: However, I _think_ some old Sun and MicroVAX machines play in that space; I've seen Qbus hardware that talks to drives with card-edge connectors and I've seen SCSI-to-cardedge interfaces on Suns of Sun-3/260 vintage. I don't know the details of ST506, ESDI, and

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015, Jules Richardson wrote: > > > As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 > PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote > system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options exist) > > I'm not finding anything

Re: DECtape reliability?

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Rich Alderson > wrote: > > ... >> However, more "intelligent" controllers do all this processing of the >> mark track to identify start and end of block/tape, and all other >> processing, in the controller. Can you make them read out the contents >> and do the pro

Re: Fw: new message

On 11/12/2015 09:11 PM, wulfman wrote: On 11/12/2015 7:04 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: On 11/12/2015 06:40 PM, wulfman wrote: On 11/13/2015 8:26 AM, kateli...@trouts.org wrote: Hey! New message, please read kateli...@trouts.org dont open this li

In Memoriam: Gene Amdahl 1922-2015

http://m.cacm.acm.org/news/194192-in-memoriam-gene-amdahl-1922-2015/fulltext Gene Amdahl, who formulated Amdahl's Law and worked with IBM and others on developments related to mainframe computing, died recently from complications of pneumonia. American computer architect and high-tech ent

Re: Fw: new message

its a bad place to go. but feel free to ignore good advice any time you wish. On 11/12/2015 7:04 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: > On 11/12/2015 06:40 PM, wulfman wrote: >> dont open this link. >> >> >> On 11/13/2015 8:26 AM, kateli...@trouts.org wrote: >>> Hey! >>> >>> >>> >>> New message, please rea

Re: Fw: new message

On 11/12/2015 06:40 PM, wulfman wrote: dont open this link. On 11/13/2015 8:26 AM, kateli...@trouts.org wrote: Hey! New message, please read kateli...@trouts.org Why not? -- --- Dave Woyciesjes --- ICQ# 905818 --- CompTIA A+ Certified IT T

RE: DECtape reliability?

From: Johnny Billquist Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:44 PM > However, that is still dealing with DECtapes. I'm curious about the > ability to deal with LINCtapes, that don't use the same codes on the mark > track (or whatever it was called, my memory fails me at the moment). Yes, "mark trac

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

>> Bring up a liveCD or moral equivalent and run SLIP, then do any of >> many networked-backup variants? > Hmm, was SLIP an option for DOS TCP/IP stacks? I meant for the livecd to be on the usually-running-DOS machine. But see below. Of course, if you have the ability to add hardware, you might

RE: DECtape reliability?

From: Ian S. King Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:27 PM > PIP10 will let you read (and ISTR, write) PDP-10 formatted tapes on a > PDP-8/TC08. Been there, done that. I don't know if there would be a > problem on a TD8E setup. -- Ian PIP10 explicitly includes code to use the TD8E instead of

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

On 11/12/2015 01:54 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options exist) I'm not finding anything via Google

Re: DECtape reliability?

On 2015-11-13 00:27, Ian S. King wrote: PIP10 will let you read (and ISTR, write) PDP-10 formatted tapes on a PDP-8/TC08. Been there, done that. I don't know if there would be a problem on a TD8E setup. -- Ian No, PIP10 knows of both the TC08 and TD8E. If you ever read the PIP10 source code

Re: Fw: new message

dont open this link. On 11/13/2015 8:26 AM, kateli...@trouts.org wrote: > Hey! > > > > New message, please read > > > > kateli...@trouts.org > > -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the named addres

Fw: new message

Hey! New message, please read kateli...@trouts.org

Fw: new message

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Re: DECtape reliability?

PIP10 will let you read (and ISTR, write) PDP-10 formatted tapes on a PDP-8/TC08. Been there, done that. I don't know if there would be a problem on a TD8E setup. -- Ian On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Nov 12, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > > > On

Fw: new message

Hey! New message, please read kateli...@trouts.org

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

On 11/12/2015 04:05 PM, Mouse wrote: As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options exist) Bring up a liveCD or moral equivalent and run

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Mouse wrote: > > As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up > > an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to > > a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options > > exist) > > Bring up a liveCD

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

> As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up > an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to > a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options > exist) Bring up a liveCD or moral equivalent and run SLIP, then do any of many netwo

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

This may also be of use: https://www.briggsoft.com/fmdos.htm On 12 November 2015 at 21:58, Tom Moss wrote: > I've never seen anything works on the sector level, but there are plenty > of terminal emulators that can backup entire directorties with YMODEM batch > or Kermit. > > Is there any paricu

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

I've never seen anything works on the sector level, but there are plenty of terminal emulators that can backup entire directorties with YMODEM batch or Kermit. Is there any paricular reason you want disk imaging capability? Bootsectors on DOS can be re-written with the SYS command, so a boot flopp

Re: 8 inch media

I also have a box of the DEC 8-inch if needed. Fun story to go along with this topic. As part of the VMS engineering team that dealt with a number of customer issues the following happened. We got a call from a customer who had not made a back up of his system disk and they needed an ancient v

RE: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

We used to back up to serial attached devices, such as tape drives or a serially attached hard drive, but I never did it to a different operating system, sorry. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules Richardson Sent: Thursday, November 12,

RE: 8 inch media

Diskettes are sold! That was fast! Cindy -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Croxton Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:29 PM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: 8 inch media Several people were asking fo

x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options exist) I'm not finding anything via Google, but it seems like the sort of thing that s

Re: DECtape reliability?

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2015-11-12 19:49, Al Kossow wrote: >> >> >> On 11/12/15 7:27 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >> >>> LINCtape is essentially identical to DECtape. I think the directory >>> format is different, but I think the block format is the same. I thi

Re: DECtape reliability?

On 2015-11-12 19:49, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/12/15 7:27 AM, Jon Elson wrote: LINCtape is essentially identical to DECtape. I think the directory format is different, but I think the block format is the same. I think the tapes are wound in reverse order and the order of increasing block numbe

8 inch media

Several people were asking for 8" floppy diskettes. I found some new at the recycle center. Maxell FD1-128 single sided, single or double density, soft-sectored. Total of 17 disks. Asking $2 each plus shipping. Cindy --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.

Re: DECtape reliability?

On 2015-11-12 16:27, Jon Elson wrote: LINCtape is essentially identical to DECtape. I think the directory format is different, but I think the block format is the same. I think the tapes are wound in reverse order and the order of increasing block numbers is reversed. The directory format is

RE: Uploaded: ISA Pertec Controller MS-DOS drivers + manual. (Catamount/Electrovalue ATC-8, ATC-16, PCT-9 MTC-16)

> I've just archived my Catamount Pertec Controller software and manuals > as I couldn't find a copy anywhere else. Tom, Thanks for doing this. I am sure it will come in handy at some point. I am always amazed at how often you can find old HW but no SW or manuals to make it work. -Ali

Uploaded: ISA Pertec Controller MS-DOS drivers + manual. (Catamount/Electrovalue ATC-8, ATC-16, PCT-9 MTC-16)

Hi All, I've just archived my Catamount Pertec Controller software and manuals as I couldn't find a copy anywhere else. The ATC-8 and ATC-16 series of Pertec controllers are still being sold by Electrovalue, but with a different software package. I personally find the Catamount software much more

RE: ICL Quattro

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of supervinx > Sent: 12 November 2015 07:21 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: ICL Quattro > > Hi! > I found an ICL Quattro desktop computer. > It looks in good shape, I had to repair only the PSU. >

Re: DECtape reliability?

> From: Tom Moss > I guess I'll have to get myself a TU56 at some point. Good luck with that! They are rare _and_ expensive; I'm trying to find one myself! Do you have a TC11 or TC08 (not sure which kind of system you're working with) already? If not, those are even rarer! :-) N

Re: DECtape reliability?

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > > ... > Also DECtape does not have a specific directory format. It depends on > what computer line you are using (12-bit, 16-bit, 18-bit, or 36-bit), > and in some cases on which operating system you are running. Some > systems have software to

Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 Web Browser

The two MegaPixel displays I have are both functional with some burn in, but they still seem pretty bright. However, one has a very apparent warble, but it was getting better after leaving it on for a while. I'm sure it had been a long time since it was powered up. Replace all of the electroly

Re: DECtape reliability?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > LINCtape is essentially identical to DECtape. I think the directory format > is different, but I think the block format is the same. No, the block format is different, as the mark track symbols are different. It's similar, but DECtape made impr

Re: DECtape reliability?

On 11/12/15 7:27 AM, Jon Elson wrote: LINCtape is essentially identical to DECtape. I think the directory format is different, but I think the block format is the same. I think the tapes are wound in reverse order and the order of increasing block numbers is reversed. Actually the block f

Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 Web Browser

On 2015-11-12 12:45 PM, Alan Perry wrote: On 11/11/15 6:50 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: ... [not sure who wrote] >> Licensing will be a *real* issue, but a version of Mathematica 3 will also run on that system. No idea where you could possibly find a copy of that, but it’s pretty cool and remar

Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 Web Browser

On 11/11/15 6:50 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Kyle Owen wrote: Good to know. Thanks for the confirmation! And you're running NeXTSTEP 3.3, correct? Correct. The two MegaPixel displays I have are both functional with some burn in, but they still seem pretty bright. How

Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 Web Browser

On 2015-11-11 11:49 PM, Kyle Owen wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: You know about the Lighthouse Design suite of applications, right? Presentation, spreadsheet, word processor, drawing program, etc. http://download.ithinksw.com/lighthouse/ Don’t forget the license

Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 Web Browser

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, David Brownlee wrote: > Does OmniWeb support using a web proxy - if so you might find it > easier to setup a proxy on another box on your local net and have it > handle all the SSL (faster too :-p) > Good question; I'll have to look into that tonight! Here's so

Re: IBM PS/2 memory

On 11/11/2015 10:03 PM, Gary Sparkes wrote: My model 70 (386 version) wants 85ns 2MB modules. My blue lightning 70 (486) won't accept those. It demands 2MB 80ns modules. Hmm, both of the ones that were originally in this machine (a 2MB and 4MB) were 85ns. The 2MB was snafu, but now the 4MB has

Re: DECtape reliability?

On 11/12/2015 05:24 AM, Tom Moss wrote: I've had very mixed (about 50/50) success with 9-track, but after reading a bit about DECtape it looks like they should still be holding up nicely. Anyone care to share their experiences? Long, long time ago I had a DECtape that had been severely 'stret

Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 Web Browser

On 12 November 2015 at 04:49, Kyle Owen wrote: > > Also trying to get SSL working better with OmniWeb. I still can't go to > Gmail from it as it's complaining about cookie issues, and other sites, > like reddit.com, fail to load altogether. :( Does OmniWeb support using a web proxy - if so you m

Re: DECtape reliability?

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2015-11-12 14:24, Tom Moss wrote: >> I've had very mixed (about 50/50) success with 9-track, but after reading a >> bit about DECtape it looks like they should still be holding up nicely. >> >> Anyone care to share their experiences?

Re: DECtape reliability?

Excellent, I guess I'll have to get myself a TU56 at some point. On 12 November 2015 at 15:39, Doug Ingraham wrote: > I've got over 200 DEC tapes written before 1973 and there are just a couple > where there is any issue. Those with issues have severe wear of the tape > surface. They were syst

Re: DECtape reliability?

I've got over 200 DEC tapes written before 1973 and there are just a couple where there is any issue. Those with issues have severe wear of the tape surface. They were system tapes that were in constant service. Usually you get a couple of cycles of shoe shine and it manages to read anyway. It

Re: DECtape reliability?

On 11/12/2015 07:24 AM, Tom Moss wrote: I've had very mixed (about 50/50) success with 9-track, but after reading a bit about DECtape it looks like they should still be holding up nicely. Anyone care to share their experiences? Some guys at Washington University restored a LINC that had been s

Re: DECtape reliability?

On 2015-11-12 14:24, Tom Moss wrote: I've had very mixed (about 50/50) success with 9-track, but after reading a bit about DECtape it looks like they should still be holding up nicely. Anyone care to share their experiences? Not sure what there is to share. I've yet to encounter a DECtape I c

DECtape reliability?

I've had very mixed (about 50/50) success with 9-track, but after reading a bit about DECtape it looks like they should still be holding up nicely. Anyone care to share their experiences?

Re: Unusual Altair 8800 power supply. Upgrade kit, factory error, or something else?

Perhaps "card cage" is overstating what MITS did. Plastic guides screwed to a PCB is far more accurate. Joe > On Nov 11, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> On 11/11/2015 12:05 PM, Joseph Lang wrote: >> Rev 0 used a small (too small;-) transformer and suffered. The later >> PS used a l