Re: RF08/RS08 photos and panel measurements (Re: RK11-C Panel)

2015-10-31 Thread John Wilson
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 02:07:10PM +0100, Mattis Lind wrote: >What is the plan with your RF08/ RS08? Is it possible to get it complete or >is just parts? The RS08 seems to be a DF32 on steroids. The question is if >it would be possible to have our unit working some day? Anyone tried to get >these t

State of Illinois auction website Sun SPARC server and Digital line printer

2015-10-31 Thread Joseph Zatarski
Hey everyone, I was browsing the state of illinois online auction site, iBid, and found these: https://ibid.illinois.gov/item.php?id=155511 https://ibid.illinois.gov/item.php?id=155521 Maybe someone can give one of them a home? I think they'll let a freight company pick it up for you if you can

Re: Lurker no more...

2015-10-31 Thread Corey Cohen
Guilty... That's me. corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ > On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Corey Cohen >> wrote: >> Well I finally setup a separate email address so I can receive individual >> messages from cctalk instead of the daily digest which

Re: Lurker no more...

2015-10-31 Thread Glen Slick
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: > Well I finally setup a separate email address so I can receive individual > messages from cctalk instead of the daily digest which really doesn't lend > itself to posting back. > > Just wanted to say hi. > > Cheers, > Corey Are you the Apple

Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

2015-10-31 Thread Corey Cohen
Sticking keys are normal if it's a datanetics keyboard (original). You can recover the switches usually by flushing then with 91% ISP and lots of mechanical motion. I usually pull the key cap off and use a needle nose pliers about 50 times on each switch flushing it every so often using the I

RE: Front panels

2015-10-31 Thread Dave Wade
On my Baby Baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGcAmrFoRrY I used three of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1P-x-NEW-MCP23S17-E-SP-IC-I-O-EXPANDER-SPI-16B-DIP28-A105-AR1-/181408786419?hash=item2a3cce67f3:g:PcAAAMXQh8NTceEZ that is the MCP23S17 as the inputs. A nice chip that’s 3.3v so compati

Re: Front panels

2015-10-31 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 10/31/2015 2:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 10/31/2015 03:11 PM, Charles Anthony wrote: What I don't know how to do is drive 500 or so LEDs. I am guessing a bunch of shift registers, but I've pretty much reached my design limits. I need some guidance on locating and understanding the technolog

Re: Front panels

2015-10-31 Thread Lawrence Wilkinson
On 31/10/15 21:11, Charles Anthony wrote: What I don't know how to do is drive 500 or so LEDs. I am guessing a bunch of shift registers, but I've pretty much reached my design limits. I need some guidance on locating and understanding the technology to run that many LEDs. I have made a 60x120mm

RE: Apple II Rev 2 value?

2015-10-31 Thread Brad
I had a closer look at the Rev 2. The keyboard is non functional (all the keys stick). The ROMs are applesoft, not integer basic (it has a ram add on card too). It powers up but nothing happens. Would that still have us in the $2k range? -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cct

RE: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread tony duell
> > Hi Tony > I seem to remember, certainly in OEM land there were dev. > systems with front panels and production systems without. > In other words the front panel was option and could be fitted. Sure. The PDP8/f and PDP8/m are the well-known example. Many of the Philips P800s had o

Re: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread rod
Hi Tony I seem to remember, certainly in OEM land there were dev. systems with front panels and production systems without. In other words the front panel was option and could be fitted. Rod(PanelMan)Smallwood On 31/10/15 18:40, tony duell wrote: Hi Guys Sitting here do

RE: Apple II Rev 2 value?

2015-10-31 Thread Brad
Thanks Corey. My keyboard is actually the brown single board version. Here's a picture of the hole in the back where the add on switch is (and some other pics of my unit): http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/unclefalter/library/Apple%20II%20A2S1 That tiny switch is all there is -- it was

Re: Front panels

2015-10-31 Thread Mike Stein
As Jon says, not really that complicated. Google DIY LED signs for lots of ideas; e.g. one of mine uses 75492 MOS LED drivers and 40158 shift registers plus a few current limiting resistors and driver transistors. Don't forget to share the finished project! m - Original Message - Fro

Re: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread rod
Hi Al From a panel makers point of view It would be straight forward But without at least the lamp panel its just a nice wall hanging. On 31/10/15 18:58, Al Kossow wrote: On 10/30/15 11:32 PM, rod wrote: Which computer would you nominate? here is the weirdest DEC panel I have ever come a

Re: Front panels

2015-10-31 Thread jwsmobile
On 10/31/2015 1:11 PM, Charles Anthony wrote: The front panel I want to build is for my DPS8-M (aka Honeywell 6180) emulator. http://8bitaficionado.com/2010/09/22/multics-honeywell-6180-mainframe-panel-on-ebay/ (Now it's a pretty big panel, so I'm thinking 1/4 scale.) I have one of those cour

Re: Front panels

2015-10-31 Thread rod
Hello Charles Well I have had a look and there lots to see. The switches I think are Lemo. The lights are most likely not LEDs. Probably lamps. Scaling it down is not possible. The lamps and switches are already tiny. The challenging part is the drum type rotating title changers I

Re: Front panels

2015-10-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/31/2015 03:11 PM, Charles Anthony wrote: What I don't know how to do is drive 500 or so LEDs. I am guessing a bunch of shift registers, but I've pretty much reached my design limits. I need some guidance on locating and understanding the technology to run that many LEDs. it really isn't t

Re: youtube video of a runnning XDS Sigma mainframe with lots of nice peripherals

2015-10-31 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/31/2015 11:51 AM, ANDY HOLT wrote: I remember hacking the computed goto in the Fortran so it would execute my own entered assembler. That was fun. ;) Interesting - it was a more normal hack to abuse the assigned goto - in most implementations* the variable contents were just a genuine mem

Re: youtube video of a runnning XDS Sigma mainframe with lots of nice peripherals

2015-10-31 Thread Diane Bruce
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 06:51:18PM +, ANDY HOLT wrote: > > I remember hacking the computed goto in the Fortran so it would > > execute my own entered assembler. That was fun. ;) > > Interesting - it was a more normal hack to abuse the assigned goto - > in most implementations* the variable

Re: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread Jörg Hoppe
Hmmm, There is one example: PDP11GUI has a virtual 11/70 panel in it, which can be used to operate all supported PDP-11's, including QBUS machines and SimH. As I programmed it I believed this was a "must-have", but honestly, it's more kind of a "Pimp my Eleven" joke. Personal credo now: bett

Re: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread Tom Moss
I recall a minimalist front panel board for the PC jr of all things http://www.brutman.com/PCjr/pcjr_legacy.html I'd quite like to see a fully fledged panel for Q-BUS based PDP-11s, or even a VAX. On 31 October 2015 at 15:06, Jörg Hoppe wrote: > Hmmm, > > There is one example: PDP11GUI has a v

free: Trifold folder "DIGITAL WindowsNT" floppies/CDs & DEC ServerWORKS CDs

2015-10-31 Thread J. Peterson
Been collecting dust, free for the cost of shipping. *** Item 1: Trifold folder "DIGITAL WindowsNT" Seems like an incomplete or mixed install set. Photos upon request. 3.5 diskettes: - Microsoft WindowsNT x86 V3.51 Boot Disks 1, 2, 3 - Windows NT 3.51/4.0 configuration Guide for DIGIT

Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

2015-10-31 Thread Corey Cohen
Yep. I have a spare blank datanetics PCB if you want to transfer your switches to a PCB which doesn't have repairs. This is for the version with the separate encoder daughter board. Cheers, Corey corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ > On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: > > If the keyboa

Front panels

2015-10-31 Thread Charles Anthony
The front panel I want to build is for my DPS8-M (aka Honeywell 6180) emulator. http://8bitaficionado.com/2010/09/22/multics-honeywell-6180-mainframe-panel-on-ebay/ (Now it's a pretty big panel, so I'm thinking 1/4 scale.) I'm mostly interested in the lights; having functional switches would be

Re: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/30/15 11:32 PM, rod wrote: Which computer would you nominate? here is the weirdest DEC panel I have ever come across http://bitsavers.org/mysteries/mysteryPanel_Nov74.jpg that I spotted in a lot of DEC panels that were on display at CHM in 2001 It is labeled "Special Order PDP/15 Ord

Re: youtube video of a runnning XDS Sigma mainframe with lots of nice peripherals

2015-10-31 Thread ANDY HOLT
> I remember hacking the computed goto in the Fortran so it would > execute my own entered assembler. That was fun. ;) Interesting - it was a more normal hack to abuse the assigned goto - in most implementations* the variable contents were just a genuine memory address and you could drop code

Re: Gov. & the machine(s) we love

2015-10-31 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Brent Hilpert > - ca. 1970: The well-known story of the 4004 is that Busicom .. asked > Intel to manufacture a set of ASIC LSI chips, of Busicom's design, for > a new calculator. .. Hoff, who looked at the multiple chip designs and > conceived instead of a software (fir

RE: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread tony duell
> > Hi Guys > Sitting here doing the overlays for the 8/e silk screen run. > I had a thought. Including all makes of computer old and new. > What about a front panel with lights and switches for systems > that never had one and could have done with one? > Which computer would you nominat

Re: Gov. & the machine(s) we love

2015-10-31 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning > Supposedly some of the impetus for integrated circuits came from the > space program -- but I think the first ones (at TI) predate that. "Digital Apollo" (pg. 125) says that Fairchild was first to ship commercially, in 1961 ("Journey to the Moon" puts it in the f

Re: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/30/15 11:32 PM, rod wrote: What about a front panel with lights and switches for systems that never had one and could have done with one? Which computer would you nominate? Motorola 68030

Re: youtube video of a runnning XDS Sigma mainframe with lots of nice peripherals

2015-10-31 Thread Glen Slick
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Lee Courtney wrote: > > Unfortunately George passed away a few years ago. All the HW and SW that > was in running condition was rescued by the LCM in Seattle. I know LCM has > had someone with Sigma experience working on and off on the Sigma to get it > running ag

Re: youtube video of a runnning XDS Sigma mainframe with lots of nice peripherals

2015-10-31 Thread Lee Courtney
Hi Pierre, Sorry forgot to address this in my original email... "There's also a Data General minicomputer and Honeywell mainframe equipment. Can anybody identify the Honeywell stuff? It's Level 6000 style, but it's strange to me that there seems to be just this one cabinet along the rest of the X

Re: youtube video of a runnning XDS Sigma mainframe with lots of nice peripherals

2015-10-31 Thread Lee Courtney
Pierre et al, I posted the video you linked to. The machines on the video belonged to George Plue, who ran a medical billing service bureau in Flagstaff AZ. They are now located at the Living Computer Museum (LCM) in Seattle. George originally ran the Computer Center at Anderson University in Ber

RE: "Demystification" is just as important as "Abstraction" in "Computer Science" (Was: Know any Fortran

2015-10-31 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck > Guzis > Sent: 31 October 2015 17:03 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: "Demystification" is just as important as "Abstraction" in > "Computer Science" (Was:

Re: Honeywell Alert / Re: Up for Auction: Memory from the First Computer in Space

2015-10-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/31/2015 01:40 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote: Very neat, too bad the memory is gone. Is building a new memory with modern stuff a consideration (enough documentation .. )? it is not gone. I have a VERY strong belief that the EMM memory box was made for the Honeywell Alert, but I have no docs

Re: Gov. & the machine(s) we love

2015-10-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 2015-Oct-30, at 7:25 PM, william degnan wrote: So chances are that various government programs helped at the margins, but were not drivers. (Think I got that attribution right...) Well, one BIG thing that moved LSI forward was the VHSIC project and others at DARPA. They funded a lot of w

Re: "Demystification" is just as important as "Abstraction" in "Computer Science" (Was: Know any Fortran

2015-10-31 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/31/2015 04:00 AM, Dave Wade wrote: SSE2 isn't exactly "leading edge" technology. It dates back to P4 in 2001 so is actually older than the XP. Also whilst XP would run on a small machine it was dire. I once was sent to look at a 256Mhz PII running XP to see if I could speed it up. Must hav

Re: Gov. & the machine(s) we love

2015-10-31 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Oct-30, at 7:25 PM, william degnan wrote: > On Oct 30, 2015 8:50 PM, "Paul Koning" wrote: >> >>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Murray McCullough < > c.murray.mccullo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What is the role played by the U.S. gov. in helping to create the >>> microcomputer? What mone

Honeywell Alert / Re: Up for Auction: Memory from the First Computer in Space

2015-10-31 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Oct-29, at 10:22 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >> - Another topic: what is a Honeywell Alert machine? Searches are just >> bringing up some current-day "Honeywell Instant Alert" messaging system. > It was a 24-bit DTL machine designed for the X-15 project, and then used in a > number of other pro

Re: Up for Auction: Memory from the First Computer in Space

2015-10-31 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Oct-29, at 10:22 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 10/28/2015 11:48 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: >> Very interesting to hear of another scheme, but it's not clear whether it >> applies to the Gemini auction memory. The BiAX scheme shows cores with the >> holes (apertures as they're called in the busi

Source for 360k drives?

2015-10-31 Thread Steven Hirsch
I need to pickup a few more 360k drives. Does anyone know of a source besides eBay - or, have a few they can part with? At this point, form-factor is not critical. I could actually use both full-height and half-height units. --

Re: youtube video of a runnning XDS Sigma mainframe with lots of nice peripherals

2015-10-31 Thread Diane Bruce
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:15:18AM +, P Gebhardt wrote: > Hello list, > > spotted this video recently on youtube: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzDSOXHd70 > > It's a Xerox Digital Systems mainframe! Wow, I didn't know that such > installations were still running as of 1997! > > The

youtube video of a runnning XDS Sigma mainframe with lots of nice peripherals

2015-10-31 Thread P Gebhardt
Hello list, spotted this video recently on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzDSOXHd70 It's a Xerox Digital Systems mainframe! Wow, I didn't know that such installations were still running as of 1997! The computer room is quite untidy. Andybody has an idea, where with was filmed? Th

RE: "Demystification" is just as important as "Abstraction" in "Computer Science" (Was: Know any Fortran

2015-10-31 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck > Guzis > Sent: 31 October 2015 01:12 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: "Demystification" is just as important as "Abstraction" in > "Computer Science" (Was:

Re: Front Panels - Thoughts

2015-10-31 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: rod Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 7:32 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Front Panels - Thoughts Hi Guys Sitting here doing the overlays for the 8/e silk screen run. I had a thought. Including all makes of comp