Re: SCSI Tape to TAP utility

2015-08-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/08/2015 08:14 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: If anyone is interested, I have code for a Linux SCSI tape to AWSTAPE program, and a program that translates aws format to a raw byte stream. Not sure if I have one that translates to the SimH .tap format, though. GNU C. I've got a Linux utility to tran

Re: OT: Slow booting,

2015-08-08 Thread Fred Cisin
Did you say that the slow boot problem that you were having was a machine with ISA? Would it make sense to put in a POST card, and make a new [temporary] BIOS with its POST peppered with OUTs? Just seeing any output that would let you know WHERE in the process it was getting bogged down might

Re: SCSI Tape to TAP utility

2015-08-08 Thread Jay Jaeger
If anyone is interested, I have code for a Linux SCSI tape to AWSTAPE program, and a program that translates aws format to a raw byte stream. Not sure if I have one that translates to the SimH .tap format, though. GNU C. JRJ On 8/8/2015 7:57 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > A couple of weeks ago, I off

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 8/8/2015 5:47 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 08/08/2015 12:13 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> I have always felt that the language name is SNOBOL, with multiple >> versions, kind of like FORTRAN II (which is what the 1410 had), >> FORTRAN IV, FORTRAN V, etc., but Griswold seems to think otherwise. >> ;)

Re: OT: Slow booting, was re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

2015-08-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/08/2015 05:56 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: It probably is not this, but maybe you can try it. For a while HP servers had the extremely annoying property of the boot being rate-limited by the serial console speed if you had been unfortunate enough to enable it by default. You would not notice a

SCSI Tape to TAP utility

2015-08-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
A couple of weeks ago, I offered to share the source and executable for a SCSI tape-to-SIMH .TAP file utility for MSDOS. To run it, you'll need an ASPI driver for your SCSI adapter. It was compiled using MSC 8.00C. Find it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x6qiudlpyitgxom/STP2T02.ZIP?dl=0 Enjo

Re: OT: Slow booting, was re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

2015-08-08 Thread Mark Linimon
It probably is not this, but maybe you can try it. For a while HP servers had the extremely annoying property of the boot being rate-limited by the serial console speed if you had been unfortunate enough to enable it by default. You would not notice anything other than the slowness on a video mon

RE: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Kip Koon
Hi Mike, Thanks a bunch for the offer! That would be great! I appreciate it. Kip Koon computer...@sc.rr.com http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mike Stein > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/08/2015 12:13 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: I have always felt that the language name is SNOBOL, with multiple versions, kind of like FORTRAN II (which is what the 1410 had), FORTRAN IV, FORTRAN V, etc., but Griswold seems to think otherwise. ;) I think the test would be "Can language x+1 run, wi

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Mike Stein
I think I've got a 68HC11 development kit somewhere if you're interested; I'll dig for it and contact you privately if I find it. m On 8/8/15, Kip Koon wrote: > Hi Noel, > Thank you for correcting me. I was quite sleepy when I first read the > original email and missed the point that MCPL came

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Sean Caron once stated: > I love this list, I always learn so many interesting things ... reading the > article on SynthesisOS now; a few pages in, it sounds like an early attempt > at building a reflective operating system? Neat. I wonder if the Quamachine > still e

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Peter Coghlan
Holm Tiffe wrote: > > It seems that the disk has some problems, or better the two RF31 disks. > If I try to install VMS on the disks there is some ratteling and data where > copied to them, after a while I get those infamous "volume is not software > enabled" errors. > There are no problems detecte

Re: OT: Slow booting, was re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

2015-08-08 Thread Ken Seefried
Supermicros (and to a similar degree Tyan) are mostly in the "server class" of motherboards. That apparently means they put a *lot* of self-test code in there somewhere. I've had literally thousands of Supermicro machines of a dozen different types at various times, and they all took an inordinate

RE: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Kip Koon
Hi Noel, Thank you for correcting me. I was quite sleepy when I first read the original email and missed the point that MCPL came later. I have just finished reading " The Development of the C Language" and I must say that it was very interesting reading. I'm waiting on the Revised R&R C book to

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
Antonio Carlini wrote: > On 08/08/15 12:50, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > No the thing is that I know almost nothing about VMS (and RSX11), I'm > >a unix guy as you know. P > > > >Have you an VMS mount command handy that I should try? Regards, Holm > > It sounds like you have VMS installed on one dis

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Sean Caron
Hi Phil, I checked out your SNOBOL4 page and I just wanted to note for your list of historical platforms that SNOBOL4 and SPITBOL were also implemented on the Michigan Terminal System (MTS) on S/360 ... this is actually the incarnation I've been playing with recently ... along with numerous other

Re: OT: Slow booting, was re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

2015-08-08 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 07/08/15 19:35, Chuck Guzis wrote: I think that supermicro still has the specs for the board up: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/archive/PentiumIII/440GX/P6DGE.cfm As you can see, it's pretty basic. It's pretty hard to find reasonably fast boards with fully-functional IS

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 08/08/15 12:50, Holm Tiffe wrote: No the thing is that I know almost nothing about VMS (and RSX11), I'm a unix guy as you know. P Have you an VMS mount command handy that I should try? Regards, Holm It sounds like you have VMS installed on one disk and at least one other disk doesn't s

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Jay Jaeger
I have always felt that the language name is SNOBOL, with multiple versions, kind of like FORTRAN II (which is what the 1410 had), FORTRAN IV, FORTRAN V, etc., but Griswold seems to think otherwise. ;) >From a CACM article "A history of the SNOBOL programming languages" from R. E. Griswold, the a

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/08/2015 08:44 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: If you like to play with classics like SNOBOL in their original form, then you can run SNOBOL and SPITBOL under the Hercules IBM mainframe emulator. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hercules-390/files/SNOBOL4/ http://www.snobol4.com/spitbol360/ (Thes

RE: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Sat, 8/8/15, Kip Koon wrote: > I have often wondered what the inspiration for the C Language was.  BCPL -> > MCPL -> B -> c, quite an interesting list of languages. Kip, As Noel mentioned, MCPL wasn't part of the evolution; it actually is pretty recent compared to the other three. >  I had he

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Jay Jaeger
If you like to play with classics like SNOBOL in their original form, then you can run SNOBOL and SPITBOL under the Hercules IBM mainframe emulator. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hercules-390/files/SNOBOL4/ http://www.snobol4.com/spitbol360/ (These days I use Perl for the stuff I used to do

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Phil Budne
> Is there a subset of this group for people who like to program in > languages or language implementations or libraries that are no longer > in common mainstream use? Or other groups for such a thing? I don't think of it as "retrocomputing" per se, but I maintain a SNOBOL4 implementation: http://

Re: PDP-12 at the RICM (Michael Thompson)

2015-08-08 Thread Michael Thompson
Yesterday we started disassembling the CRT from the VR12. We picked out the silicone that attached the metal bezel to the front of the CRT. The exposed PVA was about 1/8" thick so we picked at the edges to remove as much as possible. We found that the shield was actually loose and were able to remo

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Kip Koon > I have often wondered what the inspiration for the C Language was. BCPL > -> MCPL -> B -> c, quite an interesting list of languages. I don't think MCPL is in there; B was directly inspired by BCPL. See Dennis M. Ritchie, "The Development of the C Language": http

RE: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Kip Koon
Hi Brian, I have often wondered what the inspiration for the C Language was. BCPL -> MCPL -> B -> c, quite an interesting list of languages. I had heard of B, but not BCPL and MCPL. Are there any write-ups, manuals or articles on those three languages still around? I'm currently trying to teac

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-08 13:50, Holm Tiffe wrote: Johnny Billquist wrote: [..]i Now I'll be snarky, but just for a single paragraph, Holm... :-) Did you ever actually read the full ISE Users Guide manual? Check page 3-7 to 3-12. There you actually have the manual talk about both the software write protec

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
Johnny Billquist wrote: [..]i > > Now I'll be snarky, but just for a single paragraph, Holm... :-) > Did you ever actually read the full ISE Users Guide manual? Check page > 3-7 to 3-12. There you actually have the manual talk about both the > software write protect and the hardware write prote

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-08 12:43, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-08-08 12:21, Holm Tiffe wrote: Holm Tiffe wrote: Peter Coghlan wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote: I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI disks are "not software enabled". I

Re: ISA Pertec controllers available

2015-08-08 Thread Tom Moss
On 8 August 2015 at 05:35, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > I recall that some years ago, I spoke with a fellow from Chi Corp, who > barely remembered the thing. (Chi did not make them--they were done by a > Canadian outfit). He did warn that the cards are somewhat sensitive to CPU > speed, so you may wa

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-08 12:21, Holm Tiffe wrote: Holm Tiffe wrote: Peter Coghlan wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote: I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI disks are "not software enabled". I'm not sure but I think I recall getting that

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-08 12:00, Holm Tiffe wrote: Peter Coghlan wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote: I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI disks are "not software enabled". I'm not sure but I think I recall getting that error when trying to

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-08-08 08:21, Holm Tiffe wrote: Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-08-07 18:22, Holm Tiffe wrote: Hmm.. it seems that the pdf is containing thestuff that I've already read somewhere on HP's website. There are two possibilities: [>>> B/R5:1000 DKA400: [ [ [If you are booting from an

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
Holm Tiffe wrote: > Peter Coghlan wrote: > > > On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI > > > disks > > > are "not software enabled". > > > > > > > I'm not sure but I think I recall gett

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
No Jerry, I don't think that the problems are related to the SCSI Bus or the CDR. I can't write to the DSSI disks, that is the problem. If thast problem persists I'll try to install to an additional SCSI disk next.. Regards, Holm Jerry Weiss wrote: > If the saveset restoration and the complex b

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
Peter Coghlan wrote: > On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > > > > I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI disks > > are "not software enabled". > > > > I'm not sure but I think I recall getting that error when trying to mount a > disk that h

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Jerry Weiss
If the saveset restoration and the complex bootstrap both fail, suggest you investigate the following. 1) Make sure the SCSI bus that is used by the CD-ROM has proper termination and termination power. 2) Create/obtain a new image CD. Your image may be corruption or the CD-ROM may have trou

Re: Classic programming

2015-08-08 Thread Peter Coghlan
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 at 18:11:09 -0400, Sean Conner wrote: > > But I'm also interested in older software as well. One of my "when I get > around to it" projects is playing with the Viola web browser [4]. Written > in the early 90s, it *barely* compiles on a 32-bit Unix system and while it > ma

Re: VAX4000/300 MNS7.3 isntallation from CDROM

2015-08-08 Thread Peter Coghlan
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 at 08:21:07 +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > I'm starting the image restore and now I have a problem that the DSSI disks > are "not software enabled". > I'm not sure but I think I recall getting that error when trying to mount a disk that had media problems :-( It probably doesn