Re: PDP-8 GTF question

2015-07-26 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Brian L. Stuart: Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:51 PM I need to pick the brains of some PDP-8 experts. According to the references I can find, especially the Small Computer Handbook, the GTF instruction should include the M837 interrupt inhibit bit in AC3. I can see where this happens in the M8

PDP-8 GTF question

2015-07-26 Thread Brian L. Stuart
I need to pick the brains of some PDP-8 experts. According to the references I can find, especially the Small Computer Handbook, the GTF instruction should include the M837 interrupt inhibit bit in AC3. However, maindec 8E-D1HA test 05 seems to depend on this not being true. Running the GTF inst

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Ian S. King
Oops, misremembered: Altair 680. On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Ian S. King wrote: > I don't remember the exact date, but I was in high school which places it > in the mid-1970s: there was a storefront called "The Retail Computer Store" > that sold Altairs, IMSAIs, Chromemco and SWTPC. I real

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Ian S. King
I don't remember the exact date, but I was in high school which places it in the mid-1970s: there was a storefront called "The Retail Computer Store" that sold Altairs, IMSAIs, Chromemco and SWTPC. I really wanted the little SWTP 680 - now, of course, they're sky high if you can find one. Interest

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/26/2015 03:01 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: Yes, but they don't seem to sue folks who just create clones of someone else's VID/PID. I suspect the problem is more of trying to avoid the costs of developing/adapting S/W for their particular device, which is why they "clone" an existing device ra

RE: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Ali
> Well, given the difficulty of getting official values (USD 4k, per > year(!), seems to be the cheapest option at the moment - certainly > completely out of reach for anything hobbyist), this is hardly > surprising. Ahhh! So it is not a gentleman's agreement but a licensing scheme.

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On 7/26/15 2:12 PM, Dave G4UGM wrote: -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ali Sent: 26 July 2015 21:53 To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: First Computer Store The whole VID & PID works because of "gen

RE: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ali > Sent: 26 July 2015 21:53 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Subject: RE: First Computer Store > > > > The whole VID & PID works because of "gentleman's agreements" (i

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/26/2015 01:52 PM, Ali wrote: The whole VID & PID works because of "gentleman's agreements" (ie use your own VID and don't pretend to be someone else's). It's not clear how to solve this for folks that don't follow the rules. If it is a gentleman's agreement (i.e. no licensing/certifica

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Mouse
>> [USB] > And the proliferation of unofficial VID and PIDs seems to be an > issue, [...] Well, given the difficulty of getting official values (USD 4k, per year(!), seems to be the cheapest option at the moment - certainly completely out of reach for anything hobbyist), this is hardly surprising.

RE: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Ali
> The whole VID & PID works because of "gentleman's agreements" (ie use > your own VID and don't pretend to be someone else's). It's not clear > how to solve this for folks that don't follow the rules. If it is a gentleman's agreement (i.e. no licensing/certification fees) why wouldn't people u

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On 7/26/15 12:15 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 07/26/2015 06:12 AM, tony duell wrote: Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after it was introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2 years after it was introduced that I began to notice peripherals designed for it. I still call it

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/26/2015 06:12 AM, tony duell wrote: Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after it was introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2 years after it was introduced that I began to notice peripherals designed for it. I still call it 'Useless Serial Botch' most of the time. I

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread COURYHOUSE
I find USB useful and with USB 3 pretty darn quick! only downside it does not like to run 45.5 baud to run our 60 wpm UPI Teletype machine in the Journalism Display. Hey anyone have a AP Teletype we need one in AP dress too! Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)

Re: PDP-12 at the RICM (Michael Thompson)

2015-07-26 Thread Michael Thompson
Some progress on the PDP-12. We borrowed a TU56 tape head from the TU56 in the warehouse and replaced the broken right head. We reran ran MAINDEC-12-D3AE-PB PDP-12 TAPE CONTROL TEST, PART 1 OF 2. The diag runs OK, so at least the timing track in the borrowed tape head is OK. We reran MAINDEC-12-D3

RE: Mysterious S100 SRAM card

2015-07-26 Thread dwight
Looking at the flicker for Larry Niven's machine, I see it hada Polymorphic video card. The machine would have had a parallelkey board. You can see it had the keyboard connector wiredto it.The drive has the controller built into it, similar to the Digital Systemsdrive. It would have had a bus

Re: ISO: XT Compatible Keyboard

2015-07-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Chuck Guzis [150726 01:19]: > On 07/25/2015 08:12 PM, Steven Landon wrote: > > Yeah id rather not pay that much for one.. Looking for one used.. Doesnt > > have to be fancy. > > Non-IBM switchable keyboards should still be very much around; I've even > got a couple. > > There's also the AT/PS

Free For Shipping Commodore 16- No Video

2015-07-26 Thread Steven Landon
Just tested the C16, Its free to anyone who wants it and can fix it. Just pay shipping, Or if you are attending VCFMW I can put it in the pile of stuff to come.

RE: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread tony duell
> > Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after it was > introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2 > years after it was introduced that I began to notice peripherals designed for > it. I still call it 'Useless Serial Botch' most of the time. It's not a bus, after all. -ton

Re: First Computer Store

2015-07-26 Thread Geoff Oltmans
Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after it was introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2 years after it was introduced that I began to notice peripherals designed for it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > ---and a USB port. :) >

Re: IBM RT memory boards

2015-07-26 Thread Sean Caron
If you're going to toss them otherwise, I'd be happy to keep them and give them a good home until someone came along who could use them ... but I'll take a backseat to anyone who's actually got one of those systems. Best, Sean On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Mike Stein wrote: > Hello, > > Th