Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-05-01 Thread Simon Kolstoe
It's also easier to fish the crystals out of the solution with a hanging drop. Simon On 1 May 2009, at 06:35, Debajyoti Dutta wrote: Hi, >From the experiance of mine I can tell you that the crystal size sometimes matters between these two methods. Hanging drop may yield bigger crysta

Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-05-01 Thread Frank von Delft
Sorry, disagree again: with the right plate type (e.g. SwissCi plates), it's far far easier from sitting drop, because: 1. you don't have to muck around with flipping over the cover slip, instead just cut the seal 2. you have more time, because your drop does not evaporate as quickly (see earli

Re: [ccp4bb] Peptide on two-fold axis - was:[ccp4bb] PEG molecule crossing a two-fold crystallographic symmetry axis

2009-05-01 Thread lidefeng
Dear Herman.Schreuder, Perhaps there is some misunderstanding about my question. There is one molecule in the asymmetric unit (showed as symbos A). After the 2nd crystallographic symmetric operation, another molecule appears (symbol B). However, the density show that there is one

Re: [ccp4bb] Peptide on two-fold axis - was:[ccp4bb] PEG molecule crossing a two-fold crystallographic symmetry axis

2009-05-01 Thread Kris Tesh
A trick that small molecule crystallographers use is to make a packing diagram where the volume includes both molecules A and B, or maybe even two of each. In this case, it would display all of C (or maybe even 2 of C either twisted back on itself (symmetry element near molecule C) or extendin

[ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-05-01 Thread Marcus Winter
Further to the other contributions to this discussion, please note that the Oxford Diffraction PX Scanner system - for diffraction quality assessment of crystals in situ in the crystallisation plate, can also play a powerful role in all of this. Thus, in addition to differentiating salt from p

Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-05-01 Thread Joe
Sure, there are differences between these two methods, but no systematic study has been reported showing one is better than the other in terms of getting initial hits. Since we have a crystallization robot, I routinely set up sitting drops for initial screens and hanging drops (manually) for op

[ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Link,Todd M
My home institution, in effort to cut costs, is making an effort to push those of us on Macs onto PCs. Up till now they have been very generous via a lease program for computer hardware, but that is changing given the current economics. The institution currently does not support Linux so we ar

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Roger Rowlett
Title: Computer hardware and OS "survey" Well, Coot, O, Pymol, CNS, and CCP4i, as well as Open-EPMR all have Windows versions. The main issues with a Windows workflow are (1) jobs will run significantly slower than in Linux, and (2) the DOS command shell is not as powerful as Linux, although it

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Engin Ozkan
If you have found Bill Scott's pages on Macs useful, you may find his Ubuntu pages similarly useful: another reason to go with linux over windows. There are also people creating rpm packages to easily install the likes of coot on Fedora/RHEL/Centos, another well supported option. Also, phenix,

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday 01 May 2009, Link,Todd M wrote: > My home institution, in effort to cut costs, is making an effort to push > those of us on Macs onto PCs. Up till now they have been very generous via a > lease program for computer hardware, but that is changing given the current > economics. The ins

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread harry
Hi Most of the software for macromolecular crystallography data analysis will run happily on Linux, OS X or Windows. However, Windows is much more GUI-based and much less open to shell scripting than UNIX based systems like Linux or OS X (DOS-Shell is very inflexible, even compared to sh or csh, l

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Jacob Keller
I have found that cygwin works quite well for doing unix-type things on windows--one can use whatever shell one likes, run perl scripts, etc. Have people had problems with cygwin? I used to run CNS on it all the time. Jacob *** Jacob Pearson Keller North

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Todd: One option on Windows is to install Ubuntu in a mode that lets it run nested as a guest in a window within the host operating system. This is now one of the options on the (free) Ubuntu install CD. I've actually not tried it, so I can't tell you how good it is, but my guess is

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Partha Chakrabarti
Cygwin has problems with Vista.. you need to run it as administrator.. works fine with XP though. Moreover, Cygwin is not very well supported anymore, as the developer works for Red Hat now. If it is just the X, there are other free programs.. XMing is quite good. You can indeed install Ubuntu und

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread harry
I used to have a Mosflm executable running under Cygwin. It ran just like it does on other platforms (as far as I can recall). So did the CCP4 I built. But the bash it (Cygwin) came with seemed to be incomplete, and the tcsh (that I prefer to use) also didn't seem to be implemented terribly well. T

Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-05-01 Thread Bernhard Rupp
> no systematic study has been reported We had a ACA poster many years ago, comparing same drops of various proteins in linbro plates, 98 conditions hanging and sitting drop, on sitting posts, and with added glass shards (attached gif). In summary, comparable overall success rate, but variation

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread mjvdwoerd
Todd, Once upon a time I studied at an institution of higher learning. Its specialty is (and was) the education of and participation in medical sciences (I guess that?could be?an oxymoron, sorry). With that comes the securely keeping and sharing (as needed) of patient data. The institutional bu

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Simon Kolstoe
Hi Todd, I've found, in two institutions I have now worked for, that the tradeoff is between IT support and the hardware/software you want to use. When our group moved institutions recently our new IT department told us that they would only support managed desktops on windows machines. We

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Jon Wright
Link,Todd M wrote: ... I did not find an equal web support page for Windows. It just isn't needed. If there is a windows version of a program you get to "download, install, run" and then get on with your life. Jon

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Warren DeLano
My advice: Embrace virtualization for all tasks except interactive 3D visualization. If you're not yet familiar with VMware, Parallels, or open-source work-alikes, then it is high time you joined the revolution --- the rest of us have been running Mac OS X, Linux, and Windows on the same ha

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Link,Todd M
Not to surprisingly much of the response had been go linux. I was trying to head off that advice with the "university doesn't support Linux". And if I was more of a real man (but sadly it is not so, but I try to wear my girly-man credentials with as much pride as I can muster) I would go com

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Christopher Bahl
I'm surprised that dual booting hasn't been brought up yet. A dual boot machine has two (or more if you like) operating systems installed to different hard drive partitions, and switching between them is as simple as restarting. All major distributions of linux nowadays come with the option t

Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"

2009-05-01 Thread Andreas Forster
As Warren pointed out, dual-boot is so 20th century it's surprising people still bother with it. For me, dual boot (never mind it was on a fantastic Thinkpad) was the major reason to go for OSX. I was simply too sick of it.. It might sound like heresy to true Macolytes but I feel I have now the

[ccp4bb] bacculovirus pellet service

2009-05-01 Thread Pius Padayatti
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