Re: [ccp4bb] delocalized bond or aromatic bond

2009-09-24 Thread William G. Scott
I would think that bond should be the same distance (within hundredths of an Ã…ngstrom) as the other 5 carbon-carbon bonds in the benzene ring. That whole molecule is aromatic, by the way. I can't answer the "how come" question except to say that is most likely wrong, due to making wrong as

Re: [ccp4bb] delocalized bond or aromatic bond

2009-09-24 Thread Zheng Zhou
Thanks Bill for clarifying the notion of aromatic bonds I think the C-C bond shared by the benzene and imidazole ring should be close to a double bond distance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzimidazole How come calculation from monomer sketcher and the BZI entry in the library has a distance cl

Re: [ccp4bb] delocalized bond or aromatic bond

2009-09-23 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 23, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Zheng Zhou wrote: Is there a clear definition of delocalized bond or armatic bond? Hi Zheng: Aromatic bonds only occur in planar cyclic molecules that have 4n +2 pi electrons. Aromatic interactions give energetic stabilization beyond that observed for deloca

[ccp4bb] delocalized bond or aromatic bond

2009-09-23 Thread Zheng Zhou
Dear all I ran into a problem with monomer sketcher. One of my compounds has a benzimidazole group. C12=CC=CC=C1N=CN2 When I used monomer sketcher regularizing with refmac, the C-C bond that connect the benzene ring and the imidazole has a length of 1.49 A. I defined them as delocalized bond. Wh