Re: [ccp4bb] Vivaspin vs Amicon Ultra

2011-10-06 Thread Claudia Binda
Hi, we currently use Amicon Ultra with some proteins, but with some others we also have seen precipitation problems. In those cases we were happy with Vivacon (from Sartorius as well). They are thought for DNA but they work also with proteins. They resemble the Centricon devices which were previous

Re: [ccp4bb] Vivaspin vs Amicon Ultra

2011-10-05 Thread Ho Leung Ng
Hello Jan, I've used both with soluble and membrane proteins happily. I haven't seen significant differences with protein behavior or performance in one or the other, but of course, your favorite protein may differ. I've found that buffer condition is a more important variable than membrane t

Re: [ccp4bb] Vivaspin vs Amicon Ultra

2011-10-05 Thread Roger Rowlett
The vivaspins are the best thing in ultrafiltration since sliced bread. I learned about them while I was at the NIH several years ago and haven't looked back. Fast and low-binding. PES membranes are superior for minimizing protein binding, and are also less subjec

Re: [ccp4bb] Vivaspin vs Amicon Ultra

2011-10-05 Thread Peter Gutte
Hi Jan, In our lab we use both the Amicon Ultras and the Vivaspins (soluble and membrane proteins). What I can tell you is that me and a few other colleagues had the experience (and still do) of specific soluble proteins precipitating on the Cellulose membrane of the Amicon. By switching to

Re: [ccp4bb] Vivaspin vs Amicon Ultra

2011-10-05 Thread Florian Brückner
Hi Jan I have used Vivaspins for membrane proteins and they generally work fine. The exact pore size might be different though between Vivaspin and Amicon with the same specifications, say e.g. 100,000 MWCO. So you might find that your protein is retained in one of them, while it is in the flow

Re: [ccp4bb] Vivaspin vs Amicon Ultra

2011-10-05 Thread David Briggs
Hi Jan, I've used both, and I've used them on membrane binding proteins, extracellular matrix proteins and intracellular proteins. I know of some cases where protein loss is very severe, but that varies on a case-by-case basis. A general observation is that proteins with which losses are bad, are

[ccp4bb] Vivaspin vs Amicon Ultra

2011-10-05 Thread Jan Gebauer
Dear all, sorry, for the slightly off-topic theme, but I wonder if anyone has compared the above mentioned ultracentrifugation devices, thoroughly. Currently, we are using the Amicon Ultra, but as the Vivaspins are considerably cheaper we are considering to change. I used both with extracellula