Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-20 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Thanks to everyone who responded to my post (especially, John Lee and Brad Bennett) with helpful comments and suggestions. The good news is that I was able to get the Ulp1 protease cleavage step to 100% completion at 4C by using between 1:3-to-1:2 enzyme:substrate ratios and incubating the reaction

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-17 Thread Dr. Isabel De Moraes
Dear Raji, In our lab we always (1) use TCEP (2) high molar ratio of protease with gentle rocking at 4C O/N (3) keep in mind the size (KDa) of the target protein regarding to the detergent micelle size. Although has been observed that in many cases the use of SUMO tags increases expression

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-17 Thread Brad Bennett
Hi Raji- To echo what John Lee said, we found that we had to maintain a ratio between 1:2 and 1:10 Ulp1:substrate for several different target proteins, none of which were membrane proteins however. So, I would definitely try maybe a 1:5 ratio and see what happens. This wasn't too cost prohibitive

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-17 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Hi Folks, Thanks very much for your helpful suggestions. Several folks have suggested switching to TCEP. I am also going to increase the molar ratio of Ulp1 in the cleavage reaction like John Lee has suggested since I did not think of the effect of DDM on Ulp1. (Everything seemed to work in the ca

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-17 Thread John Lee
Hi Raji, I've used SUMO/Ulp1 for some of my membrane proteins. My experience is you have to add a lot of protease. Sometimes, I add 1-1 molar ratio to get the job done. Just to add, I've experienced similar results as you in 0.1%DDM, partly because Ulp1 precipitates in the detergent (worse in OG),

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-16 Thread Chen Zhao
Sorry for my typo, it is Ulp1-SMT3 complex... On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Chen Zhao wrote: > By the way, I have an unrelated question. In the crystal structures > containing yeast SUMO (including Ulp1-SMT1 complex: 1EUV), the first ~19 > residues are absent. I am curious whether people tr

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-16 Thread Chen Zhao
By the way, I have an unrelated question. In the crystal structures containing yeast SUMO (including Ulp1-SMT1 complex: 1EUV), the first ~19 residues are absent. I am curious whether people tried a SUMO tag with these residues deleted. I am using the vector from invitrogen which seems to have the f

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-16 Thread Keller, Jacob
You could also try TCEP as a reducing agent-strong and compatible with IMAC. JPK From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Raji Edayathumangalam Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:58 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-16 Thread Matthew Bratkowski
Hi Raji, I have no experience with membrane proteins, but I have used SUMO tags frequently. Unlike other proteases that cleave at a specific site (thrombin, TEV, etc.), Ulp1 recognizes the tertiary structure of SUMO for cleavage. So if only about 50% of your protein is cleaved, this may indicate

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-16 Thread Ho Leung Ng
Hi Raji, Your membrane protein should be in micelles as a protein-detergent complex. The detergent belt buries much of the protein surface area and can make a lot of biochemistry experiments less efficient. I've never worked with SUMO tags before, but if cleaving them is like with oth

[ccp4bb] Trouble cleaving SUMO tag off of membrane protein

2014-02-16 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Hi Everyone, After several attempts to cleave the SUMO tag off my membrane protein under various conditions (different reducing agents, enzyme-to-substrate ratios, etc.) and after reading the manual and troubleshooting guide, I'm reaching out to the ccp4bb community. Experiment: I dialyze the mix