Re: [ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-18 Thread Diana Tomchick
On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:46 AM, James Holton wrote: > > I am willing to bet that the earliest "no method" entries (particularly the > ones that lack a REMark 200 record) were probably MIR, since that was the > "obvious" method to solve a structure for some time. Modern "NULL" entries > seem to b

[ccp4bb] Nomenclature Re: [ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-17 Thread Jrh
Dear James, Thankyou for this interesting summary analysis. Just at the end of your message I would remark about "nomenclature". I meant to reply before in a recent thread about resolution terminology issues but was focussed on CCP4. So, just to say that as a community we have three categories o

Re: [ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-17 Thread James Holton
On 1/15/2011 12:28 PM, REX PALMER wrote: Does anyone know of a statistical breakdown of successful protein structure determinations in terms of the method used? Rex Palmer Birkbeck College I think this was discussed back in April under "Proportion of MR in PDB": https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cg

Re: [ccp4bb] See Jiang and Sweet ......Re: [ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-16 Thread Robert Sweet
Thanks, John. Of course whatever Jiang and I put in that paper is pretty old. The PDB have been taking care of the Jiang and Sweet archive for some years. They completely rewrote the code, and they have added some searches. The catch in this case is that they are only synchrotron-based struct

[ccp4bb] See Jiang and Sweet ......Re: [ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-16 Thread Jrh
Dear Rex, A very informative and careful analysis to help your question be answered can be found In Jiang and Sweet JSR 2004, 11, 319-327. Greetings, John Prof John R Helliwell DSc On 15 Jan 2011, at 20:28, REX PALMER wrote: > Does anyone know of a statistical breakdown of successful protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-15 Thread Bosch, Juergen
I think he wants to know SeMet / HA / MR / ab initio / fabricated* which is not readily available from the pdb I think. Jürgen *[sarcasm on]this type of structure determination seems to become more popular [/sarcasm off] - Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department o

Re: [ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-15 Thread Thomas Juettemann
Is this: http://www.pdb.org/pdb/statistics/holdings.do what you are looking for? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 21:28, REX PALMER wrote: > Does anyone know of a statistical breakdown of successful protein structure > determinations in terms of the method used? > > Rex Palmer > Birkbeck College >

Re: [ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-15 Thread David Briggs
Rex, the PDB statistics page at the RCSB may contain the information you seek. http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/static.do?p=general_information/pdb_statistics/index.html HTH, David David C. Briggs PhD Father, Structural Biologist and Sceptic Uni

[ccp4bb] Structures determined: breakdown of methods

2011-01-15 Thread REX PALMER
Does anyone know of a statistical breakdown of successful protein structure determinations in terms of the method used?   Rex Palmer Birkbeck College