Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread Colbert, Christopher
From: , Thierry mailto:thierry.fischm...@merck.com>> Reply-To: "Fischmann, Thierry" mailto:thierry.fischm...@merck.com>> Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:15 AM To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>" mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] So

Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of R. M. Garavito Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:56 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy Evette, I think the primary issue is what kind of analysis was being reported on

Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread Radisky, Evette S., Ph.D.
Yes, I think this is reasonable. From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of R. M. Garavito Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:56 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy Evette, I think the primary issue

Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread R. M. Garavito
Evette, I think the primary issue is what kind of analysis was being reported on. That is what I look for when I review a manuscript. If the authors are doing a broad structural analysis (homology of TIM barrels, X-ray refinement protocols, etc.), I wouldn't expect citations beyond stating th

Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread Radisky, Evette S., Ph.D.
AM To: Radisky, Evette S., Ph.D. Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Evette, the PDB lists the citation when you enter the PDB-ID in the search mask of any of the web-interfaces, which is

Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread Demetres D. Leonidas
I think that people who do this are not really crystallographers (at least to me) since they do not give credit to the effort that produces a structure. That is why that I always insist on proper refereeing when I review a manuscript. Maybe it is time for this community to ask journals to put i

Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Evette, the PDB lists the citation when you enter the PDB-ID in the search mask of any of the web-interfaces, which is much easier for the reader than typing the information from the list of references, i.e. all information is in the article by m

Re: [ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread Bosch, Juergen
In the least case the PDB DOI number should have been cited. Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Phone:

[ccp4bb] Somewhat OT: question of professional courtesy

2012-07-25 Thread Radisky, Evette S., Ph.D.
Dear bb, This morning as I scanned an accepted manuscript from a well-respected-but-not-particularly-glamorous journal that publishes many macromolecular structures, I came across a brief mention of homology and rmsd with a published structure listed by PDB accession number, but no citation of the