Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-15 Thread Pius Padayatti
26 and 33 tells me you are over fitting your structure the spread is more than 5% If there is a ligand added and it really doesn't look like a good fit i would try work on it (remove it and look at alternatives) When you refine you may use NCS if you have (NCS in your structure) If there is a bett

[ccp4bb] Antw: Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread Matthias Barone
CMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values es - look carefully at your data quality indicators - batch scales, Wilson plot - moments etc.. tHese can show up if there is a problem with ice rings or crystal decay or whatever. Then I always look at the REFMAC plot of v

Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread Sudipta Bhattacharyya
y the first time). >>> However, once begun, it is often less painful than expected. SA/composite >>> omit maps can help. >>> -- >>> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of >>> Eleanor Dodson [eleanor.dod...@y

Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread Prem Prakash
use they are >> difficult (if they weren't we would have built correctly the first time). >> However, once begun, it is often less painful than expected. SA/composite >> omit maps can help. >> -- >> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@J

Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread Ashok Nayak
--- > *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Eleanor > Dodson [eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk] > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:49 AM > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values > > es - look carefully at your

Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread Morais, Marc C.
t: Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values es - look carefully at your data quality indicators - batch scales, Wilson plot - moments etc.. tHese can show up if there is a problem with ice rings or crystal decay or whatever. Then I always look at the REFMAC plot of v If they overlap well - good - but problems

Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread Eleanor Dodson
es - look carefully at your data quality indicators - batch scales, Wilson plot - moments etc.. tHese can show up if there is a problem with ice rings or crystal decay or whatever. Then I always look at the REFMAC plot of v If they overlap well - good - but problems with scaling will show up ther

Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread Mark J van Raaij
Dear Rohit, I wouldn’t judge a structure just by the Rwork and Rfree values, but also by the validation and other statistics (bond lengths, angles, Ramachandran plot, map quality, fit to map, average B values). If these are all ok, you should be able to “get away with” an Rfree of 33%. In your

Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Dear Rohit, Try to run sfcheck or XTRIAGE and check, if your data is fine. Check for twinning or pseudo-translation. You can send your processed mtz to me and I would be more than happy to help you. You can look into cumulative intensity distribution (if you processed with XDS, it will be in CORR

[ccp4bb] R/Rfree values

2016-12-14 Thread rohit kumar
Dear All, I am solving a data of 2.5 A (C121 space group). Right now the R/Rfree values are 26/33, after many cycles of refinements (With or With out water) the R/Rfree values still same. Zanuda suggests that the space group seems to be correct and the model is looking fine in coot. Some one sugge