Re: [ccp4bb] Planar restraints in Refmac

2012-11-29 Thread Robert Nicholls
In the meantime, you can compact the line by replacing "external" with "exte" and "residue" with "resi". Not a general solution, but may help in the short term. Regards, Rob On 29 Nov 2012, at 11:10, Garib N Murshudov wrote: > Yes, it can be done. I may be able to do it soon. I have to find a

Re: [ccp4bb] Planar restraints in Refmac

2012-11-29 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Yes, it can be done. I may be able to do it soon. I have to find a better delimiter, + may not be good becuase it may be part of atom names. Another way would be: if you have more than 10-15 atoms then you can divide planes into several overlapping planes And yet another way (perhaps better way f

Re: [ccp4bb] Planar restraints in Refmac

2012-11-29 Thread Andrea Pica
Thank you very much to all of you for your replies. The external restraints mechanism works perfectly as far as you do not exceed 468 characters in a string. If one wants to restraint more than let's say 15 atoms it is not feasible! Is it possible to list the atoms in a more compact way? I h

Re: [ccp4bb] Planar restraints in Refmac

2012-11-28 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Andrea There are two ways as they were mentioned by Tim and Ian: 1) Using external restraints mechanism. You define something like (it is an example): external plane first atom CA chain A residue 25 next atom CB chain B residue 50 next atom OG chain B residue 100 next atom CC chain C resid

Re: [ccp4bb] Planar restraints in Refmac

2012-11-28 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Andrea You need to have an appropriate LINK record in the PDB file but you also need to specify the link restraints in the CIF file, for example: data_comp_list loop_ _chem_comp.id _chem_comp.three_letter_code _chem_comp.name _chem_comp.group _chem_comp.number_atoms_all _chem_comp.number_atom

Re: [ccp4bb] Planar restraints in Refmac

2012-11-28 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Andrea, Have a look at the section "External restraints" -> "Torsion angle restraints" at the refmac documentation http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/groups/murshudov/ You need to find out whether the 'similar type of keywords' for planar restraints

[ccp4bb] Planar restraints in Refmac

2012-11-27 Thread Andrea Pica
Hi everybody! Is there a simple way in REFMAC to restraints a group of atoms belonging to different residues to lay on a plane? Of course I would like to set the sigma! Do I have to add any line in the PDB header? Is it that simple? Thank you very much! Andrea Andrea Pica, Ph.D. student