Re: [ccp4bb] Difference map

2010-09-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
That seems the right procedure. I presume the two crystals have similar cell, etc? What is the Riso plot from scaleit look like - if it is 55% + then there is no isomorphism, but if it is < 30% then the map should be reasonable. which phase did you use for the map calculation? Eleanor intekh

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference map

2010-09-29 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Intekhab Alam, an Fobs-Fobs' map usually works only if the two crystals are isomorphous, which means that there are neither large cell constant changes nor any other larger structural changes (like overall rotations, domain movements, other rearrangements) than the bound compound (ligand,

[ccp4bb] Difference map

2010-09-29 Thread intekhab alam
Hi Folks I have a query regarding the difference map between the two structures ligand bound data (2.5A) and native (2.8A). I tried to calculate the fourier difference map between two data sets ligand bound- native. The protocol in CCP4 that i used is as: 1.merge the mtz file of native nad ligand b

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-18 Thread Tim Gruene
in board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tim Gruene Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:39 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images I know that sometimes Fo(complex)-Fo(apo) cannot be done because of nonisomorphism. We've had a lot of success with this with the d

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-18 Thread Doug Ohlendorf
map (from first F's) is cleaner. Doug -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tim Gruene Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:39 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images > I know that sometimes Fo(complex)

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Gruene
I know that sometimes Fo(complex)-Fo(apo) cannot be done because of nonisomorphism. We've had a lot of success with this with the dioxygenases because there is no large scale alteration in the active site. As for the technique itself, Brian Matthews drilled this into me when I was a postdoc in his

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Doug Ohlendorf
a Lab web site: http://biosci.cbs.umn.edu/bmbb/ohlen_lab/index.html -Original Message- From: Ian Tickle [mailto:i.tic...@astex-therapeutics.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:08 PM To: Doug Ohlendorf Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images Hi Douglas Do

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Ian Tickle
te the beam to reduce radiation damage to an acceptable level. Cheers -- Ian > -Original Message- > From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On > Behalf Of Doug Ohlendorf > Sent: 17 June 2009 16:41 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: RE

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread ANDY DODDS
Wow, you can read too! Impressive. Indeed, it seems Larson et al did use Pymol, as have I. The question to the board was what they use, so that I might experiment with other methods. Any other helpful suggestions, please don't hesitate Jon. Thanks to all for their responses. A 2009/6/17 Jo

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread vincent Chaptal
Andy, on the practical point of view, you can create such images using Pymol and the command 'carve'. load composite_omit-ccp4.map, map-to-display, format=ccp4 isomesh mesh, map-to-display, 1.5, resi 45, carve=3 color blue, mesh this will display the map at 1.5 sigma, at 3 angstroms around the r

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Doug Ohlendorf
s.umn.edu/bmbb/ohlen_lab/index.html -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ANDY DODDS Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:30 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images Hello, I was wondering what people used to generate

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Jon Wright
There seems to be a clue in the text? "Models were displayed and figures were produced with PyMOL (Delano, 2002)", which you can read at the end of section 2 "Materials and Methods". ANDY DODDS wrote: Hello, I was wondering what people used to generate difference map images of, say, a ligan

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Andy, before answering your question, I dare say that since the rise of sigma-A-weighted maps, simple Fo-Fc or 2Fo-Fc maps are deprecated and one ought to use the appropriate sigma-A-weighted map instead. Refmac5 produces data columns required both for sigma-A-weighted data columns and a

[ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread ANDY DODDS
Hello, I was wondering what people used to generate difference map images of, say, a ligand in their structures? e.g. Figure 2a here http://journals.iucr.org/f/issues/2009/05/00/tt5012/tt5012.pdf Cheers, Andy

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread William Scott
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:55:39 + Brenda Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I am fairly new to this lark No problem. With a name like Patterson, your future is guaranteed (unless of course you see everything in the world with intensity but no phase). I have a d

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread Lijun Liu
There is another possibility that your ligand is not fully occupied, if the binding site of protein endures an apparent change when bound by ligand. Lijun On Dec 28, 2007, at 7:55 AM, Brenda Patterson wrote: Hello, I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question is un

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread Artem Evdokimov
t? A picture would help! Artem -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Patterson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:56 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure? Hell

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread David Briggs
Covalent modification?? Bias in 2fo-fc map? Can you show us a pic of offending density? Dave On 28/12/2007, Brenda Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question is > unclear, > but it is really puzzling me. > > I have used

[ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread Brenda Patterson
Hello, I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question is unclear, but it is really puzzling me. I have used phaser to generate a molecular replacement structure of my target (which has 100% identity to my template) and this particular crystal I had soaked with a ligand. I ha