Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-18 Thread Jon Cooper
I re-read this thread because I was confused by it, esp. the discussion on having to use the command line to run old programs! I assumed therefore that the old ccp4i gui had finally disappeared. Anyhow, I just installed 7.1 and it's still there, complete with the Program List dropdown! In case a

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
rom: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Dodson Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:25 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2 Yes - there are things I use all the time whi

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread Boaz Shaanan
<CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Eleanor Dodson Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:25 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2   Yes - there are things I use all the time which are not part of the CCP4I2 list pdbset to generate

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread Lau Kelvin
20 12:25 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2 Yes - there are things I use all the time which are not part of the CCP4I2 list pdbset to generate symmetry equivalents or find the centre of mass etc etc c

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread Christian Roth
> Herman >> >> >> >> *Von:* CCP4 bulletin board *Im Auftrag von >> *Oganesyan, >> Vaheh >> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 8. Juli 2020 16:23 >> *An:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> *Betreff:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in >> CCP4I2

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread David Waterman
k to your mailbox, > > Herman > > > > *Von:* CCP4 bulletin board *Im Auftrag von *Oganesyan, > Vaheh > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 8. Juli 2020 16:23 > *An:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Betreff:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in > CCP4I2 > >

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
. Juli 2020 16:23 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2 EXTERNAL : Real sender is owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk> Thank you for explanation. There are many small programs in CCP4 that have not

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread Oganesyan, Vaheh
: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2 I understand that one is used to the programs one is familiar with and Eleanor especially is very fond of these things, but there are several things which can be done for example in Coot (symmetry coordinates etc) . It is just another way to do it

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread Palm, Gottfried
justified?   From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Eleanor Dodson Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:25 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2   Yes - there are things I use all the time which are not part of the CCP4I2 list pd

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
There seems to be a list of the 7.0 programs (and documentation!) still available: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/FUNCTION.html I hope this is not going away! eab On 07/07/2020 12:09 PM, Tim Gruene wrote: Dear Kelvin, the command 'ls $CBIN' lists the majority of CCP4 programs on your system. This

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
om> wrote: >> >>> ... and how all these changes being justified? >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board * On Behalf Of *Eleanor >>> Dodson >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:25 PM >>> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMA

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Dominika Borek
for that. > Just my 2 cents. > > Cheers > Christian > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 6:30 PM Oganesyan, Vaheh > wrote: > > ... and how all these changes being justified? > > FROM: CCP4 bulletin board ON BEHALF OF Eleanor Dodson > SENT: Tuesday, July 7, 202

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
ulletin board * On Behalf Of *Eleanor >> Dodson >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:25 PM >> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2 >> >> >> >> Yes - there are things I use all the time which

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Christian Roth
vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com> wrote: > … and how all these changes being justified? > > > > *From:* CCP4 bulletin board * On Behalf Of *Eleanor > Dodson > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:25 PM > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Oganesyan, Vaheh
… and how all these changes being justified? From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Eleanor Dodson Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:25 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2 Yes - there are things I use all the time which are not part of the

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Yes - there are things I use all the time which are not part of the CCP4I2 list pdbset to generate symmetry equivalents or find the centre of mass etc etc coordconv to turn orthogonal coordinates to fractional - after all we are crystallographers and need to relate models to unit cells.. distang t

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Palm, Gottfried
For occasions like Laus, it would be useful to further on have access to the CCP4 v7.0 Program Documentation, even if the programs are not updated as Christian explained. I was for instance looking for translating coordinates as in pdbset, but couldn't find a replacement in the ccp4i2 gui. Gr

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Kelvin, the command 'ls $CBIN' lists the majority of CCP4 programs on your system. This probably even works under Windows 10, since the powershell acts like a linux/unix shell. Best regards, Tim On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:00:18 + Lau Kelvin wrote: > Ah I see! Great I can run it that way >

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Lau Kelvin
Ah I see! Great I can run it that way And yes, Eleanor, after I realized that list was gone, I was panicking that there are some random things I used to do with those programs would no longer be possible. Good to know that the command line versions are still there in the 7.1 distro. Best, Kel

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Christian Roth
yes Eleanor is right. command line still works.:-) fft is also in 7.1 distribution. On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:43 PM Eleanor Dodson wrote: > Oh Lau - how I miss that list! > But if you just run fft online it is still distributed..wombat:Downloads > eleanor$ > > fft hklin mapout > >

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Oh Lau - how I miss that list! But if you just run fft online it is still distributed..wombat:Downloads eleanor$ fft hklin mapout LABIN FP= and so on.. On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 14:22, Christian Roth wrote: > Hi Kelvin, > well fft as single program is kind of not longer supported as is

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Christian Roth
Hi Kelvin, well fft as single program is kind of not longer supported as is not ccp4i. In i2 internally, as well in communication with mg or coot, everything is done using map coefficients. Their are two options: First via i2: Use the unusual map coefficients Task and choose not to compare maps, bu

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Lau Kelvin
Hi Christian, I was in particular looking for the fft program (I couldn’t find that using the method you described) just to convert an mtz into a .map. Before in version 7.0 I could just browse all programs, now it seems like I cannot do that (other than using the filter, and some seem to be mi

Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-06 Thread Christian Roth
Hi Kelvin, not quite sure if I understand you correctly, but if you press the Task Manager button you get on the right sight a list of topics (import data, Molecular Replacemnt etc.) each point can be open up like a file tree to see all programs or pipelines available. You can search with the sear

[ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-06 Thread Lau Kelvin
Hello, I am looking for a way to find the list of programs accessible using the new 7.1 CCP4I2 interface? Is this still possible or do I have to revert back to version 7.0? Best regards, Kelvin -- Kelvin Lau https://people.epfl.ch/kelvin.lau Protein production and structure core facility - P