Re: [ccp4bb] About dry dewars

2024-10-21 Thread Mitchell D. Miller
Hi Pedro, Back when we were developing the Stanford Automouting robot, I ran several tests with thermocouples mounted in Hampton Cu Pins and loaded into SSRL cassettes. These were placed in a shipping dewar and the temperature at the bottom and top of two stacked cassettes was monitored over ti

Re: [ccp4bb] About dry dewars

2024-10-21 Thread Weiss, Manfred
. I am not sure, if this thing still exists, but you could use it as a starting point to search. Best, Manfred From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Pedro Matias Sent: Monday, October 21, 2024 10:41:33 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] About

Re: [ccp4bb] About dry dewars

2024-10-21 Thread Pedro Matias
My thanks to Mitchell and Artem for their replies and suggestions. Our dewars are all CX100. We are using the weighing method but my concern is that the temperature at the top of the dewar can reach above 150K even with some LN2 present, which can lead to the recrystallization of the amorphous

Re: [ccp4bb] About dry dewars

2024-10-18 Thread Mitchell D. Miller
Another good way to test the dry shipping dewar is to its dry/empty weight. If you don't know your "as new" mass, you can weigh it, then purge with dry air/nitrogen for 24 hours and check the weight again, if it is unchanged, then you can use that as your dry/empty weight. Next you can charge the

Re: [ccp4bb] About dry dewars

2024-10-18 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Cheapest possible system to check dry shipper would be a wooden stick lowered into the shipper then taken out and exposed to moist air. Condensation would indicate a cold zone... Second cheapest option is a red LED on a pair of long thin wires. If it changes to green as it dips into the dewar, aga

[ccp4bb] About dry dewars

2024-10-18 Thread Pedro Matias
Dear All, I'm looking for a low temperature measuring system to check our dry dewars, preferably one that is not very expensive. Any recommendations ? Also, I was told that it is possible to regenerate the vacuum in those vessels. Does anybody have any experience with this? If so, how can it