[ccp4bb] Data acquisition (MX) positions at Diamond Light Source

2017-11-09 Thread Graeme Winter
Dear All, We have software engineer posts open at the moment at Diamond Light Source in the MX data acquisition team (i.e. beamline user software) - details at http://www.diamond.ac.uk/Careers/Vacancies/All/119_17_CH.html It's an exiting time at the moment, with new beamlines being built, incre

Re: [ccp4bb] Basic Crystallography/Imaging Conundrum

2017-11-09 Thread Dale Tronrud
Ethan and I apparently agree that anomalous scattering is "normal" and Friedel's Law is just an approximation. I'll presume that your "unique" is assuming otherwise and your 62,500 reflections only include half of reciprocal space. The full sphere of data would include 125,000 reflections. Si

Re: [ccp4bb] Basic Crystallography/Imaging Conundrum

2017-11-09 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday, 10 November 2017 05:29:09 Keller, Jacob wrote: > >>62500 is < 40^3, so ±20 indices on each axis. > 50Å / 20 = 2.5Å, so not quite 2.5Å resolution > > Nice--thanks for calculating that. Couldn't remember how to do it off-hand, > and I guess my over-estimate comes from most protein cryst

Re: [ccp4bb] Basic Crystallography/Imaging Conundrum

2017-11-09 Thread Keller, Jacob
>>62500 is < 40^3, so ±20 indices on each axis. 50Å / 20 = 2.5Å, so not quite 2.5Å resolution Nice--thanks for calculating that. Couldn't remember how to do it off-hand, and I guess my over-estimate comes from most protein crystals having some symmetry. I don't really think it affects the quest

Re: [ccp4bb] Basic Crystallography/Imaging Conundrum

2017-11-09 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday, 10 November 2017 00:10:22 Keller, Jacob wrote: > Dear Crystallographers, > > I have been considering a thought-experiment of sorts for a while, and wonder > what you will think about it: > > Consider a diffraction data set which contains 62,500 unique reflections from > a 50 x 50 x 5

Re: [ccp4bb] reject images based on Rmerge

2017-11-09 Thread Kay Diederichs
As Eleanor and Gerard explained - perhaps there is a reason that some frames are really bad. But it could just as well be that the crystal diffracts anisotropically, and those frames with high Rmerge correspond to a weak region of reciprocal space. In this case, it would be quite counterproduct

Re: [ccp4bb] Removing a ter line present in the middle of the chain

2017-11-09 Thread John Berrisford
If you output an mmCIF file directly from refmac this avoids the TER record problem. just add this "pdbout format mmcif" to your refmac command and it will output an mmCIF which can be used directly for deposition to the PDB see https://www.wwpdb.org/deposition/preparing-pdbx-mmcif-files R

Re: [ccp4bb] reject images based on Rmerge

2017-11-09 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Charles, Eleanor is right: look at the images, and look also at the processing output produced by XDS. If you find that too ASCII-looking, then look at the graphs produced from these numbers by programs like XDSGUI, XDSAPP and others. Our own autoPROC produces an extensive html output (c

Re: [ccp4bb] reject images based on Rmerge

2017-11-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think you need to look at the images. We found one case where the overall Rmerge didnt look too bad but there were horrendous streaks across many images. No idea what had happened but other crystals from the same batch were much better. Eleanor On 9 November 2017 at 19:26, CPMAS Chen wrote: >

Re: [ccp4bb] reject images based on Rmerge

2017-11-09 Thread CPMAS Chen
That is right. I had the data already and did not want to throw it away. On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > I think you need to worry about why that has happened, rather than get an > automated rejection criteria! > There must be some problem in the data collection for that

Re: [ccp4bb] reject images based on Rmerge

2017-11-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think you need to worry about why that has happened, rather than get an automated rejection criteria! There must be some problem in the data collection for that to happen.. Eleanor On 9 November 2017 at 19:04, CPMAS Chen wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a way to reject diffraction images based o

[ccp4bb] reject images based on Rmerge

2017-11-09 Thread CPMAS Chen
Hi All, Is there a way to reject diffraction images based on Rmerge? When I processed my data with XDS, I use AIMLESS in CCP4 to get merged, truncated data. However, there is quite some images with high Rmerge, say larger than 1. Is there a keyword I can use to reject these images based a Rmerge

Re: [ccp4bb] double cell dimensions between P2 and C2

2017-11-09 Thread Dale Tronrud
I agree with Phil. A P2 crystal with nearly perfect noncrystallographic translational symmetry (~1/2,~1/2,0) will look like a C2 cell with twice the length along a and b and weak spots between the indexed spots. Look for those spots on your "C2" images. Dale Tronrud On 11/9/2017 3:06 AM, Phi

Re: [ccp4bb] unit cell is double between 2 forms

2017-11-09 Thread Bernhard Rupp
The cells are related. You double 2 axes, giving 4x the P2 volume (not double). You gain a C (translational centering in the ab plane) so you have 2x the asu content in C2. Pointless tells you about the space group based on the indexed reflections, so you might want to look at the images to decide

Re: [ccp4bb] double cell dimensions between P2 and C2

2017-11-09 Thread Andrew Leslie
Dear Markus, I have seen something similar before, I think it was only one cell dimension that was changing (and not the lattice type), but it could double or triple the cell edge, crystals grown in very similar conditions, impossible to tell from morphology what the cell w

Re: [ccp4bb] double cell dimensions between P2 and C2

2017-11-09 Thread Phil Evans
You should look critically at the indexing of the images for both cases. Does the lattice interpret all spots, or are half of them missing > On 9 Nov 2017, at 10:02, Markus Heckmann wrote: > > Dear all, >> From a small protein, gives crystals P2 with cell > Cell 53.16 65.73 72.89

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] double cell dimensions between P2 and C2

2017-11-09 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Mark, It does happen, even that two crystals from the same drop (everything identical) have different space groups. Best, Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Markus Heckmann Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. November 2017

[ccp4bb] unit cell is double between 2 forms

2017-11-09 Thread Markus Heckmann
Dear all, we crystallized a small protein, that gives crystals P2 with cell Cell 53.16 65.73 72.8990 110.94 90 (has 3 molecules in the asymmetric unit). Tested with pointless. Does not give any other possibility. The other crystal form of the same protein, similar conditions:

[ccp4bb] double cell dimensions between P2 and C2

2017-11-09 Thread Markus Heckmann
Dear all, >From a small protein, gives crystals P2 with cell Cell 53.16 65.73 72.8990 110.94 90 (has 3 molecules in the asymmetric unit). Tested with pointless. Does not give any other possibility. Another crystal if the same protein, similar conditions: C2 Cell 109.14 1

[ccp4bb] EM Validation Developer Post

2017-11-09 Thread Ardan Patwardhan
Dear all I am looking for a person with a structural biology/bioinformatics background and software development experience to work on an exciting joint project with Garib Murshudov’s group (MRC-LMB) to develop structural data-mining of 3DEM maps in EMDB with the aim of deriving canonical 3D den