[ccp4bb] co-crystallization

2011-08-24 Thread Yvonne TAN Yih Wan
Hi , I am co-crystallizing a protein with compound and would like to know how much of compound to add to protein solution to start with. I know that the protein binds compound in a 1 to 1 ratio but also noticed that the compound precipitates out of solution when DMSO is diluted off. Where shoul

[ccp4bb] Creating CIF Files and Renaming Ligands

2011-08-24 Thread Ai Fen Chai
Hi all, I want to add 2 new ligands (that do not exist in PDB) to my structure. I generated the ligands from PRODRG. The problem is that both of the ligands have the same name DRG. After renaming the ligands in both PDB and CIF files, I always get this error message "CIF dictionary does not contai

Re: [ccp4bb] spherulites and PEG3350

2011-08-24 Thread Tom Peat
You might to consider that PEG 3350 has phosphate contamination, so playing around with small amounts of phosphate (or removing it) might be worthwhile. Cheers, tom From: Regina Kettering [mailto:reginaketter...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 04:46 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subjec

Re: [ccp4bb] Aging PEGs

2011-08-24 Thread Van Den Berg, Bert
Is there anything that consistently matters in crystallography? ;-) From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Frank von Delft [frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:21 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re:

Re: [ccp4bb] Aging PEGs

2011-08-24 Thread Frank von Delft
And now, does anybody know of /systematic/ data indicating how consistently all this matters? phx On 24/08/2011 21:45, Prince, D Bryan wrote: For those of us truly controlling types :), I used to make the PEG solutions and filter them over a Bio-Rad resin that filtered out all the junk ad

Re: [ccp4bb] Aging PEGs

2011-08-24 Thread Prince, D Bryan
For those of us truly controlling types :), I used to make the PEG solutions and filter them over a Bio-Rad resin that filtered out all the junk added to stabilize the PEG solution. Then, of course I had to freeze all my PEG solutions in aliquots, or wrap them in foil and store at 4C in the dark. T

Re: [ccp4bb] Finding obsolete pdb entries

2011-08-24 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
!Hola! About 6 years ago I noted a couple of structures I was interested in were removed from the pdb. I saw in a recent email discussion that it is possible to access obsolete entries, however unfortunately I do not have the pdb code of the structure I am interested in - and neither does the

Re: [ccp4bb] Aging PEGs

2011-08-24 Thread mjvdwoerd
PEG is a polymer and it can be made by anionic or cationic polymerization. Whichever you use, you go "the other way" to terminate the reaction at an appropriate time (so you have the molecular weight you want). So when you start with an acid, you terminate with a base and vice versa. If you te

Re: [ccp4bb] Aging PEGs

2011-08-24 Thread Craig A. Bingman
Commercial polyethylene glycol is contaminated with polymers that have aldehyde groups at the ends. Other impurities include some amount of internal epoxide linkages. The aldehyde groups can be additionally oxidized to carboxylic acids. I would assume that oxidation to terminal carboxylic aci

Re: [ccp4bb] Aging PEGs

2011-08-24 Thread Jim Pflugrath
PEGs have small amounts of anti-oxidants added to them by the manufacturer. I think different manufacturers may use different compounds. And you might imagine that PEGs themselves with their -OH groups go from alcohol to adelhyde to carboxylate. -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin boa

[ccp4bb] Aging PEGs

2011-08-24 Thread Jacob Keller
A while ago I measured the pH's of old and new PEGs and found them very different, and internally attributed all "old vs new PEG issues" to pH. Upon reflection, this seems too simplistic. Are there other known mechanisms of crystallization capacities of PEGs of various ages? Jacob Keller

Re: [ccp4bb] spherulites and PEG3350

2011-08-24 Thread Prince, D Bryan
Something else to try would be the Protic Ionic Liquid kit from Hampton. I recently had crystals of a protein that would only grow as laminated stacks of plates. Optimizing the conditions and using an additive screen didn't improve crystal morphology. I tried the PIL kit from Hampton and was able t

Re: [ccp4bb] spherulites and PEG3350

2011-08-24 Thread Jan van Agthoven
Thanks for the protocole and advice! I'll put my spherulites on gel. It will make things clear. Jan 2011/8/24 Regina Kettering > Something to consider is the quality of the PEG 3350. We have found that > different qualities of PEG 3350 can give different results, depending on the > type and am

Re: [ccp4bb] spherulites and PEG3350

2011-08-24 Thread Regina Kettering
Something to consider is the quality of the PEG 3350.  We have found that different qualities of PEG 3350 can give different results, depending on the type and amount of contaminants.  What used to be the Fluka PEG 3350 is now the pharm grade of PEG 3350 (aka Miralax).  We use high quality PEG 3

Re: [ccp4bb] spherulites and PEG3350

2011-08-24 Thread Gregory Verdon
You should check these "spherulites" on SDS-PAGE gel to make sure that these contain your protein. Then you can start thinking about optimization. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Jan van Agthoven wrote: > Dear all, > > I recently obtained some spherulites while trying to crystallize my > protei

Re: [ccp4bb] spherulites and PEG3350

2011-08-24 Thread Savvas Savvides
Dear Jan I would recommend running the following protocol on your spherulites. Just pretend that they are crystals :) This was posted some time ago on the ccp4bb. best regards Savvas > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Kenneth Verstraete < > kenneth.verstra...@ugent.be> wrote: > > > Hi Ivan, > > >

[ccp4bb] spherulites and PEG3350

2011-08-24 Thread Jan van Agthoven
Dear all, I recently obtained some spherulites while trying to crystallize my protein. The spherulites are manually reproducible, but changing pH, protein concentration, and salt concentration does not result in crystal formation. Microseeding with crushed spherulites isn't a solution either as it

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-24 Thread Shya Biswas
Hi Francis, Once I had asked Pavel Afonine the same questions and these were his suggestions but most of these can be implemented in phenix... I guess there is no general/unified procedure to do this, and in most of cases the tools and outcomes vary case by case. Some general points: - Removing p

Re: [ccp4bb] LABELIT with XDS

2011-08-24 Thread Nicholas Sauter
James, After indexing the images with LABELIT it is possible to write out an XPARM.XDS file that defines the unit cell, orientation, and beam parameters. For example, index an image first: labelit.index lysozyme_001.img --index_only This gives several possible Bravais lattice solutions...e.g. t

Re: [ccp4bb] number of cycles in refmac

2011-08-24 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Tim At the moment there is no option to stop refmac prematurely. I can add if it is necessary. I can only give my experience. After molecular replacement before running ARP/wARP or buccaneer I usually run 60-100 cycles of refinement with jelly body with sigma set to 0.01. Then automatic mo

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-24 Thread Dale Tronrud
I agree with Herman, and would like to add to his list of explanations why density may not be observed. It is possible that the compound binding to your protein simply doesn't contain those bits without density. I have known cases where the compound in the vial does not match the label on the

Re: [ccp4bb] number of cycles in refmac

2011-08-24 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Tim The answer is a definite NO, the goal of refinement is to maximise the likelihood from the working set and the restraints. It is definitely not to optimise Rfree or LLfree. The correct value of the latter is whatever you get at convergence of refinement, i.e. at maximum of the likelihood,

[ccp4bb] Database with protein experimental pKa values, with possibility to search for Cysteines and .pdb structure

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Juettemann
Hello all, this might not be the appropriate place, but I was wondering if anyone knows of a database with protein experimental pKa values, with possibility to search for Cysteines and .pdb structures. "PINT: Protein-protein Interactions Thermodynamic Database" seems to be down. The question aro

[ccp4bb] number of cycles in refmac

2011-08-24 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, especially at the beginning of model building and/or at low resolution both Rfree and "-LL free" as reported in the refmac logfile show a minimum at a some cycle before rising again. I am certainly not the only one tempted to first run refm

[ccp4bb] Do manufacturers change their crystallogenesis screens?

2011-08-24 Thread Chris Morris
HI, I've recently seen two examples where the description of a screen in a local database was different to the current one on the manufacturer's web site. This happened in two different labs, using different software, and with different screen manufacturers. This could potentially lead to an o

Re: [ccp4bb] PISA question

2011-08-24 Thread Tom Oldfield
Tongqing Thank you for highlighting an issue with a recent release of the PDBePisa service. The option to return the atom detail as well as the residue detail within the PISA service was accidentally missed from the production service during a major update of features. I am sorry that this

[ccp4bb] Immediate opeining for a Post-DOC fellowship based at Diamond & the Research Complex at Harwell

2011-08-24 Thread Martin Walsh
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Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-24 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 15:01 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 12:36 -0600, Francis E Reyes wrote: > > Seems to be a quiet day on the BB > > So you need an earthquake :) > > This is similar, imho, to the issue of disordered side chains: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/gfo

Re: [ccp4bb] LABELIT with XDS

2011-08-24 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Hi, I apologise for the empty message. If you take the cell dimensions that you got in LABELIT into XDS it should work. I guess you couldn't get XDS to index from fresh, is that correct? Boaz Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life Sciences Ben-Gurion University of the Negev Beer-Sheva 8

Re: [ccp4bb] LABELIT with XDS

2011-08-24 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life Sciences Ben-Gurion University of the Negev Beer-Sheva 84105 Israel E-mail: bshaa...@bgu.ac.il Phone: 972-8-647-2220 Skype: boaz.shaanan Fax: 972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JIS

[ccp4bb] LABELIT with XDS

2011-08-24 Thread James Whittle
Dear all, I'm able to index my images in LABELIT. Is it possible to use that indexing solution in XDS? James

Re: [ccp4bb] PISA question

2011-08-24 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
Dear All I may not have understood but if I run PDBe PISA and go Interface>Details then I get a table of the form eg for H-bonds Hydrogen bonds 1 A:GLN 213[ NE2] 3.52A:SER 3[ O ] 2 A:ASN 112[ ND2] 2.77A:SER 3[ O ] 3 A:GLN 213[ NE2] 2.

[ccp4bb] Finding obsolete pdb entries

2011-08-24 Thread Simon Kolstoe
Dear ccp4bb, About 6 years ago I noted a couple of structures I was interested in were removed from the pdb. I saw in a recent email discussion that it is possible to access obsolete entries, however unfortunately I do not have the pdb code of the structure I am interested in - and neither does

Re: [ccp4bb] Check PDB file for missing atoms

2011-08-24 Thread Bernhard C. Lohkamp
Coot: Extension -> Modelling -> Residues with Missing Atoms... Or watch out for the blue bars in the rotamer validation graph in Coot. B Dear all, Does anyone know a program that will check a PDB file for missing atoms and output a list of the corresponding residues? Many thanks in advanc

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-24 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Francis, Although I am a member of the "never truncate a disordered side chain" camp, I think for ligands it is quite a different story. For me a random disordered lysine on the protein surface is completely uninteresting, except if one wants to examine the electrostatic surface. A non-expe