Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
I know this question has been answered and Dirk has waved off further discussion but... I have an answer from a different than usual perspective that I've been dieing to try out on someone. Assume you have a one dimensional crystal with a 10 Angstrom repeat. Someone has told you the value

Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Covalent modification of Cys by reducing agents?

2011-04-15 Thread Kendall Nettles
We see BME adducts in all of our estrogen receptor structures, though we don't always put them in the models. Sometimes we only see one or two atoms of the adduct, and in others it is completely ordered. We only see it on the solvent accessible cysteines. We do it on purpose. We used to treat th

Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Covalent modification of Cys by reducing agents?

2011-04-15 Thread Artem Evdokimov
I've seen BME adducts many times both in structures and via MS. DTT adducts are somewhat less common (due to intramolecular disproportionation into oxidized DTT and free SH) but still observable: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11684092 So - not only is this possible, but practically commonpla

[ccp4bb] William Nunn Lipscomb Jr "The Colonel"

2011-04-15 Thread Charles W. Carter, Jr
For some reason this news affects me deeply. I did not know Bill Lipscomb well, but I interacted closely with James when he was in the UNC Computer Science Department long ago, and members of the Colonel's scientific family have impacted me positively any number of times. So, I share the sorrow

Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Covalent modification of Cys by reducing agents?

2011-04-15 Thread Joshua-Tor, Leemor
We had a case with a BME adduct clearly seen in the structure. PDB ID 1CY5. Leemor On 4/15/11 4:09 PM, "Michael Thompson" wrote: > Hi All, > > I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not it is possible for reducing > agents with thiol groups, such as DTT or beta-mercaptoethanol (BME), to fo

[ccp4bb] OT: Covalent modification of Cys by reducing agents?

2011-04-15 Thread Michael Thompson
Hi All, I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not it is possible for reducing agents with thiol groups, such as DTT or beta-mercaptoethanol (BME), to form covalent S-S bonds with Cys residues, particularly solvent-exposed Cys? I have some puzzling biochemical results, and in the absence of

[ccp4bb] William Nunn Lipscomb Jr "The Colonel"

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Moody
Nobel Laureate William Lipscomb Dies at 91 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: April 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM ET I have had this forwarded to me, besides getting a Nobel prize for his discovery of the bent bonds in boron hydrides, the Colonel was a pioneer in PX, with work on the role of Zn in carboxyp

Re: [ccp4bb] Searching for very radiation sensitive crystals

2011-04-15 Thread David Waterman
Hi Robert, If you don't mind the crystals being rather small, then polyhedra crystals might be what you're after (in fact, many microcrystals satisfy your criteria). There is a mini review here: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/0889311X.2010.527964 These articles should also help. Ji, X.; Sutton, G.; E

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about BALBES R(free) fraction

2011-04-15 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Gregory, You need a sufficient number "n" of free reflections to get a statistically valid Rfree value. 500 should be ok. I normally select 5% free reflections. However, I always hate it when programs decide that they know better than the user. Nobody prevents you from using your original mt

Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Colin Nave
Dirk Another way of looking at it See slide 7 in http://www.aps.anl.gov/Science/Future/Workshops/Frontier_Science_Using_Soft_Xrays/Presentations/WeierstalTalk.pdf sampling interval 1/W (Bragg sampling) is Shannon sampling if complex Fraunhofer wavefield of object with width W is recorded. If o

[ccp4bb] Question about BALBES R(free) fraction

2011-04-15 Thread Gregory T Costakes
My name is Greg Costakes and I am a graduate student for Cynthia Stauffacher at Purdue University. I am attempting to solve the structure of an 18kDa protein domain using molecular replacement to obtain proper phasing (44% identical / 78% homologous to an existing structure). Crystals diffracted

Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Brett Kroncke
Hi Dirk, My interpretation of your question is what is the impact of resolution given by the individual diffraction spots from the electron density sampling and the Nyquist theorem. My explanation would be that the Nyquist theorem gives an upper limit to the frequency information that can be obtai

Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear colleagues of the CCP4BB, many thanks for all your replies - I really got lost in the trees (or wood?) and you helped me out with all your kind responses! I should really leave for the weekend ... Have a nice weekend, too! Best regards, Dirk. Am 15.04.11 13:20, schrieb Dirk Kostrewa:

Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Joseph Cockburn
Dear Dirk, You are getting confused about where the sampling occurs, and this is perhaps because we usually learn about the Shannon criterion from a certain way around (sampling in real/time space -> periodicity of the signal transform in frequency/reciprocal space). To see the Shannon criterion in

Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Dirk, The factor of 2 comes from the fact that the diameter of a sphere is twice its radius. The radius of the limiting sphere for data to a certain resolution in reciprocal space is d_star_max. If you sample the electron density at points distant by delta from each other, you periodise

Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear Ian, oh, yes, thank you - you are absolutely right! I really confused the sampling of the molecular transform with the sampling of the electron density in the unit cell! Sometimes I don't see the wood for the trees! Let me then shift my question from the sampling of the molecular transf

[ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Adam Ralph
Hi Dirk, If you have a N points of a 1D real discrete function, there will be Fourier coefficients indexed h=0,1,2,...,N-1. Taking N as odd, there will be int(N/2)+1 independent Fourier coefficients but your h(max) will in fact be 'N-1'. In crystallography we write h(N-1) as h(-1) etc and ten

Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Is the simplest answer that we indeed do not get all of the information, and are accordingly missing phases? My understanding is that if we were able to sample with higher frequency, we could get phases too. For example, a lone protein in a huge unit cell would enable phase determination. Taken fur

Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Dirk I think you're confusing the sampling of the molecular transform with the sampling of the electron density. You say "In the 1-dimensional crystal, we sample the continuous molecular transform at discrete reciprocal lattice points according to the von Laue condition, S*a = h". In fact the

[ccp4bb] Lattice sampling and resolution - a seeming paradox?

2011-04-15 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear colleagues, I just stumbled across a simple question and a seeming paradox for me in crystallography, that puzzles me. Maybe, it is also interesting for you. The simple question is: is the discrete sampling of the continuous molecular Fourier transform imposed by the crystal lattice suff

Re: [ccp4bb] XXII IUCr Congress and General Assembly - Madrid (Spain)

2011-04-15 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Gerard Sorry - what Royal Wedding? On 15 Apr 2011, at 11:48, Gerard Bricogne wrote: > Dear Harry, > > Thank you for the reminder. Upon connecting to the URL given in > Martin's e-mail, however, one immediately gets a pop-up saying: > > "New deadline fo abstract submission:

Re: [ccp4bb] XXII IUCr Congress and General Assembly - Madrid (Spain)

2011-04-15 Thread SANCHEZ BARRENA, MARIA JOSE
Dear Gerard, you are right, the abstract submission has been extended. Best regards, Maria Quoting Gerard Bricogne: > Dear Harry, > > Thank you for the reminder. Upon connecting to the URL given in > Martin's e-mail, however, one immediately gets a pop-up saying: > >

Re: [ccp4bb] XXII IUCr Congress and General Assembly - Madrid (Spain)

2011-04-15 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Harry, Thank you for the reminder. Upon connecting to the URL given in Martin's e-mail, however, one immediately gets a pop-up saying: "New deadline fo abstract submission: April 28" (no doubt to enable everyone to work until the last minute prior to the royal wedding ..

Re: [ccp4bb] XXII IUCr Congress and General Assembly - Madrid (Spain)

2011-04-15 Thread Harry Powell
Hi folks today is the last day to get your abstract in! On 7 Apr 2011, at 14:24, Martin M. Ripoll wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > This is just to remind you that the “XXII Congress and General Assembly” of > the IUCr (International Union of Crystallography) will be held in Madrid > (Spain) fro