Re: [ccp4bb] Concentrating protein

2008-06-26 Thread Dima Klenchin
Nathan Cowieson: I have found that ion exchange is a good way to concentrate protein. If there is no reason that you can't pass the whole 450 mls through the column then you should do that. Another way is to load dilute protein onto small hydroxylapatite column. Provided that the buffer does

Re: [ccp4bb] Concentrating protein

2008-06-26 Thread Nathan Cowieson
I have found that ion exchange is a good way to concentrate protein. If there is no reason that you can't pass the whole 450 mls through the column then you should do that. Another way to do this would be to add ion exchange resin straight into the 450 mls, stir for a bit, let it settle, po

Re: [ccp4bb] Concentrating protein

2008-06-26 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Concentration of large volumes is a common bane of many biochemistry/protein production labs. Diaflow can be quite expensive and regular concentrators tend to take forever. Thus, my preferred solution is not to use concentrators at all. 1. AS cuts do not really *require* high protein concentration

[ccp4bb] Concentrating protein

2008-06-26 Thread Exec
Dear All, we have GCSF protein produced in inclusion bodies. we solubilise it refold it and then concentrate it using proflux system. still the concentration of the protein we get is less and volume is more for us to load in Ion exchange chromatography. is there any simple technique that can be

Re: [ccp4bb] Reminder - still no 3D stereo under OS X 10.5

2008-06-26 Thread Warren DeLano
Hello All, Since I have long been such a big Mac stereo 3D proponent in the past, it is especially important that I go on the record with an updated perspective. Based on all of the accumulated evidence to date, a verdict can now be rendered: we have lost the case. For stereo 3D visualization

Re: [ccp4bb] Reminder - still no 3D stereo under OS X 10.5

2008-06-26 Thread James Stroud
Has anyone tried XQuartz for this: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki On Jun 26, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Ben Eisenbraun wrote: A follow up note: I was at Apple's WWDC a couple weeks ago, and during one of the lunch time sessions for scientists, several people brought up the fact that stereo

Re: [ccp4bb] Reminder - still no 3D stereo under OS X 10.5

2008-06-26 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
A follow up note: I was at Apple's WWDC a couple weeks ago, and during one of the lunch time sessions for scientists, several people brought up the fact that stereo 3d was still broken on Leopard, and asked for it to be fixed. The Apple engineer present hemmed and hawed a bit, and finally said t

Re: [ccp4bb] Reminder - still no 3D stereo under OS X 10.5

2008-06-26 Thread Scott Walsh
I think it is only X11 apps. I am able to use 3D stereo using MacPyMOL on my Mac tower runing 10.5.2. Cheers, Scott > Is this true for native aqua gui programs, or just the X11 ones? > > > > On Thu, June 26, 2008 1:50 pm, eortlund wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I am writing everyone just to

Re: [ccp4bb] Reminder - still no 3D stereo under OS X 10.5

2008-06-26 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 02:00:45PM -0700, William Scott wrote: > Is this true for native aqua gui programs, or just the X11 ones? According to Warren Delano, the PyMOL developer, it's affects native apps as well: http://tinyurl.com/6ohzfc I emailed him for clarification and he replied: "as soo

Re: [ccp4bb] Reminder - still no 3D stereo under OS X 10.5

2008-06-26 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Just to add on that: I converted to OSX in 2001 when it first appeared. Before I was Irix/Linux and -alas- the relatively happy owner of a SONY VAIO with Windows XP. For 8 years I remained impressed. But, 10.5 has been a massive disappointment after being spoiled for so long, with stable wor

Re: [ccp4bb] Reminder - still no 3D stereo under OS X 10.5

2008-06-26 Thread William Scott
Is this true for native aqua gui programs, or just the X11 ones? On Thu, June 26, 2008 1:50 pm, eortlund wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am writing everyone just to remind all those who are thinking of > upgrading to 10.5 that currently quad-buffered stereo will not work > for coot, pymol etc... sin

[ccp4bb] Reminder - still no 3D stereo under OS X 10.5

2008-06-26 Thread eortlund
Hi Everyone, I am writing everyone just to remind all those who are thinking of upgrading to 10.5 that currently quad-buffered stereo will not work for coot, pymol etc... since Apple has not done a good job with the video drivers in Leopard. So if you would like to use 3D stereo viewing

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Serge Cohen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 26 juin 08 à 18:49, Ethan Merritt a écrit : On Thursday 26 June 2008 09:36:16 am Serge Cohen wrote: Please some one tells me if I'm wrong ... but I though that indeed one is NOT supposed to measure anomalous difference from reflections h and

Re: [ccp4bb] helix stability

2008-06-26 Thread Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía
Hi Fred, I would say that the helix stability will generally be affected by its context within the protein, unless it is (unlikely?) separated from the core of the protein and it has intrinsic stability (some peptide sequences do). Also, in a particular context, you may have mutations that unfold

[ccp4bb] summary: headhunters [off-topic]

2008-06-26 Thread William Scott
Hi Citizens: I've taken the liberty of summarizing/anonymizing/interpreting a bit with the varied and colo[u]rful responses. They fell into three general categories. Thanks to all who responded and offered sage advice... 1. The unanimous consensus was that headhunters aren't useful for

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Bernhard Rupp
> Also only centric phases are restricted. Yes. *Related* would have been be the proper term for symmetry related reflections. In detail: The phases of symmetry related reflection still are *related* by phi(hR)=phi(h)-2pihT (no restrictions on phi(h)) For centrics phi(h)=pihT or pi(hT+1) th

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 26 June 2008 11:35:31 am Bernhard Rupp wrote: > Let's try this again, with definitions, and pls scream if I am wrong: > > a) Any reflection pair hR = h forms a symmetry related pair. ??? Maybe you meanh' = hR >R is any one of G point group operators of the SG.

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Bernhard This is OK, all it's saying is that if you generate by PG symmetry two new reflection h' = hR' and h" = (-h)R" then the Bijvoet pair h' & h" is symmetry-related to the Friedel pair h & -h. The notation in your previous e-mail was somewhat imprecise, e.g. if h = hR that implies that

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Dale Tronrud
Bernhard Rupp wrote: I quote from these pages: "Bijvoet pairs are Bragg reflections which are true symmetry equivalents to a Friedel pair. These true symmetry equivalents have *equal amplitudes, even in the presence of anomalous scattering*." This is poorly worded. I would change it to

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Dale Tronrud
There was a mistake in the letter that listed the Bijvoet pairs for a monoclinic space group and that is confusing you. Let me try. The equivalent positions for a B setting monoclinic are h,k,l; -h,k,-l. The Friedel mates for the general position (h,k,l) are (-h,-k,-l). This means tha

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Bernhard Rupp
I quote from these pages: "Bijvoet pairs are Bragg reflections which are true symmetry equivalents to a Friedel pair. These true symmetry equivalents have *equal amplitudes, even in the presence of anomalous scattering*." Sounds more like centric or perhaps simply symmetry related to me. A few

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Hidong Kim
Hi, Bernhard, Check out page 8 http://students.washington.edu/zanghell/TAs/BSTR521/notes/anomalous_scattering.pdf I thought that Friedels are reflections related by pure inversion symmetry, while Bijvoets are reflections related by non-inversion symmetry of the reciprocal lattice. Thanks,

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Let's try this again, with definitions, and pls scream if I am wrong: a) Any reflection pair hR = h forms a symmetry related pair. R is any one of G point group operators of the SG. This is a set of reflections (S). Their amplitudes are invariably the same. They do not even show up as

[ccp4bb] helix stability

2008-06-26 Thread Frederico Moraes Ferreira
Hi everyone, Has anybody know some program to calculate the dipole moment of helices? Which relevant parameters should I have to calculate to compare stability of helices? I would like to compare the stability of different mutations on helices, but don't know if it makes sense when you take the

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 26 June 2008 09:36:16 am Serge Cohen wrote: > Please some one tells me if I'm wrong ... but I though that indeed one > is NOT supposed to measure anomalous difference from reflections h and > h' if those are related by one of the symmetry operator of the point > group... This statement

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Serge Cohen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please some one tells me if I'm wrong ... but I though that indeed one is NOT supposed to measure anomalous difference from reflections h and h' if those are related by one of the symmetry operator of the point group... That is in monoclinic (

[ccp4bb] PDB Ligands, Drug Discovery Informatics, eCheminfo Autumn Meeting

2008-06-26 Thread barry . hardy
Our eCheminfo Autumn CoP meeting this year includes an extensive session of 1.5 days on PDB Ligands chaired by Marc Nicklaus (NIH) which should be of particular interest to the CCP community. Meeting announcement including CFP and Bursary Award preogram below. best regards Barry Hardy     Latest Ad

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Patrick Loll
I've always thought that a Bijvoet pair is any pair for which an anomalous difference could be observed. This includes Friedel pairs (h & h-bar), but it also includes pairs of the form h & h', where h' is symmetry-related to h-bar. Thus Friedel pairs are a subset of all possible Bijvoet pai

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2008-06-26 Thread james . phillips
Friedel pairs Bijvoet differences

Re: [ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
Friedel pair is strictly F(hkl) and F(-h,-k,-l). Bijvoet pair is F(h) and any mate that is symmetry-related to F(-h), e.g., F(hkl) and F(-h,k,-l) in monoclinic. There are always anomalous differences, though they can be unmeasurably small. Bernie Santarsiero On Thu, June 26, 2008 10:55 am, Bernh

[ccp4bb] Friedel vs Bijvoet

2008-06-26 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Dear All, I wonder about the conventions using Friedel vs Bijvoet pair. a) there are no differences. As long as h = -h, it's a Friedel or a Bijvoet pair. They are the same. b) A Friedel pair is any reflection h = -h including hR = -h, i.e. including centric reflections. A Bijvoet pair

Re: [ccp4bb] TMAO for crystallization

2008-06-26 Thread Christian Biertuempfel
Hi Ruben, I have never used TMAO myself but this paper might give you a better idea: Jeruzalmi, D. & Steitz, T. Use of organic cosmotropic solutes to crystallize flexible proteins: application to T7 RNA polymerase and its complex with the inhibitor T7 lysozyme. J Mol Biol, 1997, 274, 748-56 T

Re: [ccp4bb] Restraints in Refmac5

2008-06-26 Thread Partha Chakrabarti
One question is, why do you want to fix that and from what literature are you expecting the values? BeF3- is often a ground state analogue for GTP binding proteins for example.. and the depending on the coordination state, the bond angle and length might change a bit I would have thought.. for exa

[ccp4bb] Restraints in Refmac5

2008-06-26 Thread yael_benhar
Hi everyone, I am refining a protein structure containing a Beryllium Fluoride (BeF3) ligand.  I am using Refmac5 in ccp4i.   The distances between the Be and the F atoms  are slightly longer than what I would expect (1.7A instead of ~1.5A). Does anyone know how I can fix the distances and rest

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2008-06-26 Thread yael_benhar
Hi everyone, I am refining a protein structure containing a Beryllium Fluoride (BeF3) ligand.  I am using Refmac5 in ccp4i.   The distances between the Be and the F atoms  are slightly longer than what I would expect (1.7A instead of ~1.5A). Does anyone know how I can fix the distances and rest

[ccp4bb] TMAO for crystallization

2008-06-26 Thread Ruben Martinez-Buey
Hi all! Just want to ask whether some of you has experience with TMAO (or similar conformation stabilizers) for setting up crystallization screenings? Which concentration range would you use? Would you add TMAO to the protein tube and afterwards add the mixture to the plates? Just wanted to know yo